Graham Butcher

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here.

Just in case there is anybody here who is a bit puzzled by what I was referring to my post about the surface mount resistor here are some photos I've taken of a computer monitor video card (1) that is responsible for the images you see on your screen, the cables are going to the power supply printed circuit board which funnily enough is some 3.5 times larger. I placed a 5 pence piece on the board and photographed it (2), then placed it under my microscope and took another photo (3) then zoomed in and took another photo (4) . The items highlighted in red are the surface mounted resistors, those highlighted in yellow are transistors and item highlighted in white is a capacitor and any single one of those failing has the potential of bringing your car to halt and really spoiling your day big time. In EV's there are going simply loads of these types of things, maybe running to thousands throughout the car some of the integrated circuits called "chips" can have billions of transistors within them such as the case of microprocessors or as they are more commonly called CPU's. How Many Transistors Are in a CPU? [Updated 2023] | DeviceTests

All cars these days are complicated when they go wrong and when they do it is most likely to something electronic. Just smallest thing like a ultra small surface mounted resistor on printed circuit board, the resistor probably only measures 2 or 3mm but can kill your car. This is true regardless of how the car is powered. That said however EV's employ much more electronics than ICE cars. Think back to the days when the nearest a car got electronics was the capacitor across the points on a distributor. All other functions were controlled via switches and anybody could repair almost everything apart from the radio. These days some cars like Tesla's even have touch touch control for the heater etc via a large digital screen. It just adds an extra layer of complexity to things that are not really required.

Sorry, I was confused with the different numbers being quoted, between tens of thousands and the then 2,000 but like others have said it was not made particularly clear, and that I can understand as one's brain races ahead faster than, at least it does for me, I can type and I often have to back and read and edit it and read it again many times before posting and then sometimes bits are missing lol. I have now changed my reaction to like.

Nice colour, that was my first choice of colour but I had to change it because SWMBO didn't like it when it first came out on the Mk1, now she has kind of warmed to it.

Agreed, he is haming it up and also his titles are clickbait, but then again that is his only income, so he has to attract views in order to get monetised. What he is doing is no different to what newspapers do to entice buyers to buy their paper to read the latest piece of spiced up news.

I must say that thinking about, it sounds a bit far-fetched, as someone else hinted at, it maybe have a far darker reason for that and that may be revealed in time if we all wait until the code is cracked. I think it would all depend on the value of that unlock gave you, in the UK that $4,500 certainly add to the BIK as the retail value has shot up. So it also have a knock affect on VED as a private buyer. I'm not so sure if that is the plain truth, I find it exceedingly hard to find a Tesla has managed to build up their own network of Tesla owned and operated service centres on the global scale that their website suggests when no other company has done that. Furthermore, I think its much more likely that it is a franchise system like McDonalds where they insist that only their name is used for the business. There is a large showroom and service centre in my city on the same site as Mercedes Benz and they operate as Tesla Chelmsford in one building and Mercedes-Benz Chelmsford in the other building. Hardly the same as having 28 plus drivers, all competing for just 4 chargers overnight so that can commute to their place of work in the morning is it 🙄 Well, we know at least 5 of them still appear to be there, see my other posting.

Hmm, yes well, I presume that you just now checked for chargers in the Leyborn area that he mentioned? How certain are you that these you found aren't new ones. His vid was in October 2021, things might well not have been as they are today, back then?

Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong but I think he did say that he had driven to a 50 or 100Kw charger but when he got there it was out of order but his app never showed it was out of service, so maybe we had better give him the benefit of doubt.

Very few chargers near me, mostly 7Kw, some 22Kw and a couple of 50Kw.

But isn't that just like the vast majority of drivers. Not many drivers that I'm aware of any idea of what happens under the bonnet of their cars or the differences in the grades of petrol or diesel for that matter. Most just drive along, even when they are getting low on liquid fuel, will wait until they get the warning bong and pilot light telling them to refuel and then they will pull in at the next petrol station and if they forget to pull in, will attempt to push on to the next one along their route?

@tootI have no idea how many of those 5 are still working but it does make a good illustration as you confirmed that ZapMap and PlugShare are nowhere up-to-date with their information, so when that guy with Porsche is a click bait kn** as stated by @lol-lolmade a video about how he got caught out when using ZapMap, 5 months ago claiming he almost froze to death (which is clickbait I admit, but thats just what the MSM does all the time and people get their info from the biased MSM), it seems that he was actually telling the truth about the infrastructure is not fit for purpose. Its hardly a good advocate to help encourage people switch to EV. The key players in this push towards having no new ICE cars for sale in 2030 and net-zero by 2050 have really got to grab hold of their socks and pull them up double quick. It does bugger all to help either when the PM has just ordered a new Audi A8 (ICE) as his official car, he should be leading from the front as should the entire government and be using EV cars.

Considering the above photo was dated 2017, there has not any further movement to provide charging posts and considering the size of the entire housing complex, those 5 posts are no where enough as what the photo does not show nor does the text explain it, but Haldane Place is just 1 side of a massive 4 story housing estate. As far as I can see there is not even a parking space allocated to each dwelling so it would seem that some tenants would not be able to have a car even if they wanted one. And this scenario is played out across the whole of the UK in large urban areas with social housing as opposed to private estates, which do usually have driveways as claimed. But there are many more older private and social estates where that is not remotely possible. The only way that can happen is to demolish every thing and build afresh, highly unlikely.

How certain about the 24v supply are you? I'm not so sure, the street lights around here are now largely LED heads as you say, but they are fed from the normal 240v supply to the pole base and then terminated via a time clock and the photocell at the top (belt and braces in case the time clock gets welded contacts leaving lights on 24/7) into the LED driver and then the LED head. Lamppost charging in my street I would suggest is a non-starter with just 4 lampposts, in a street 140 metres in length and 20 houses, each with at least 1 car and 2 houses with no fewer than 5 cars each. There would be pitch battles over who gets to charge their cars overnight.

@lol-lol Generally agreed with a lot of what you said, however the locations you specifically mentioned are by and large relatively modern estates and also likely to be largely private housing and not social housing, looking at Google Earth for your village that certainly looks to be true, and also you mentioned Bradley Stoke which I know to be the same. I used to work on the Aztec West Industrial Estate but there are loads of places in the older parts of the older established towns and cities that have streets similar to the one shown below (2023 image) and these are also privately owned there are no driveways and there are loads of social estates with houses just like these or high-rise tower blocks and there is no charging points available. Working from home is still a big thing around here as some bosses have come to realise through the pandemic that the work still got done and therefore maybe they didn't really need to have such a large office after all. In this part of the country, many office blocks are now being converted into luxury flats, some of which have now been requisitioned by the Home Office to house asylum seekers. Good luck if you think the Government will stop at a £100 as the acceptable level for EV VED. Extra EDIT: My current car has a VED of just £35 but I fully expect that will sky rocket in time too. If I had to choose between a Hybrid and a EV, I'd take the EV as it is likely to be the cheapest to run overall and also more than likely the most reliable as a daily runner. With a Hybrid, when it comes to servicing you have effectively 2 cars to service, an ICE and an EV, ouch. EDIT. In the street below, there are just 8 lampposts and the street itself is 260 metres in length and this view point was from the middle looking south. Lamppost charging is not the answer here either. The infrastructure is a long way off being suitable for an EV future.

@tootYes I accept that is the case, hence why I said that the servicing is not always cheaper, this will obviously vary from brand to brand, BUT the basic checks will be the same regardless of the brand and only involves for the first service in this particular case, be a visual check only, and maybe a cabin/pollen filter swap. Servicing for my Superb cost around the £300 last time including all fluids etc. I also ended up by saying "it might well become an urban myth that EVs are far cheaper to run than their ICE counterparts", this statement would clearly vary for make and also model to model. Dealers will not be happy to forego the lack of servicing profits, so you can reasonably expect prices will rise to compensate, and the rate of rise will get more pronounced as the EV's gain ground and become the new norm.

It doesn't make any difference to DVLA how much you actually pay for the car, or if you brought the car direct from Tesla thus saving a massive amount of the RRP, it is the RRP price that will always use for their calculations. In addition to this there is also another bit to the VED besides the RRP and that is the CO2 and NOX emissions from the tailpipe. As EV's don't do either as they don't have a tailpipe 😄, I think it be folly to think that they won't find another way to replace that revenue, and that could perhaps be based on weight or range of the car etc. One thing is pretty certain, they will not be able to afford foregoing that revenue. The other issue with Tesla's flirtation with direct selling to customers and cutting the dealers out of the loop, is what happens if the customer has problems with the car, the dealer will not want to get be involved as they have made zero out of the sale.? Problems problems.

The points that you raise are only available to a few EV owners / drivers. As a company car driver, I used to get free fuel for private use as it was brought on a company fuel card. Item 1 Around here at least, there are few places where people have the ability to charge at home, especially true in older areas of the city. Item 2 Servicing is not always cheaper as this 6 month old video reveals. (mind you, I notice that on the invoice it did mention a cambelt check, on an EV?) Item 3 is debatable as many more people now work from home and so item 1 comes back into play. Item 4. I'm not sure about this aspect, EV's still appear to be pricey to me at least. Item 5. I really can't see that any government is going to be able to sustain free VED for EV's as they will be losing massive revenue due to the fall in ICE cars on the road, driven not only by the fact more people will be switching to EV's but also because they introduced quotas for ICE cars that can be sold each year, and that gets more aggressive each year. So it might well become an urban myth that EVs are far cheaper to run than their ICE counterparts. This aspect might well be falling into the category that our current government seems to rely on, and that is that if you repeat something often enough that people will begin to believe its true even when it is a blatant lie.

I would argue that Tesla does not have the right, nor the moral high ground on this issue. It is well known that carrying extra weight around costs more, which the buyer has to cover. Added to this is that here in the UK at least, VED becomes payable on EV cars and so that means that the customer could be paying an increased tax because the extra capacity could be unlocked at any point by software.

At those prices and when you add in the VED which is being introduced in 2025, its not really encouraging people to decide to switch until they have zero options left.

Those prices are the norm in most places around here and maybe higher along motorways at their services, can't be 100% certain but that is I remember from seeing YT videos.

That could be another plausible reason for it. If that is the case then it sure as hell blows a hole right through their claimed battery longevity and low battery degradation, thus making them just as guilty as ICE makers, like VW, BMW and Mercedes with their diesel gate scandal.

You still don't understand, the reserve tank on some IC cars was not there for normal use, it was designed purely for emergency use, be it a national emergency or the type of emergency caused by missing your junction on a motorway and having to drive that bit further before being able to refuel the car. This reserve tank had to be switched in by the operation of a special switch when the car started spluttering due to fuel starvation. In the case of your Tesla it is not there as a design feature for your benefit, but for Tesla's benefit so they only had to make one model for both standard range and enhanced range versions, the latter was only unlocked once the owner paid the extra fee.

Good idea Colin, I fancy a beer, I'll just pop to the fridge and I'll join you in one. 😉

Oh come on, surely you know exactly @skomaz is trying to say, why do you always try to twist things? Dear oh dear, do you have shares in Tesla or something. Many IC cars like Jaguar, Rovers, Daimler and Vanden Plas had special reserve tanks built-in as standard equipment many years ago so if you got caught out and was unable because of traffic conditions etc get to the service station before the normal tanks run dry, you could switch in this special reserve tank in such an emergency without having to make a phone call to the factory for the unlock code etc. If its not too much of a personal question for you, how old are you? I'm guessing that you are pretty young, as your knowledge of IC vehicles seems to be a little lacking, if you don't mind me saying.