Hi there,

I have been to look at a 2008 (08) Superb elegance and it seems like a good buy. My question is. Is it? Price is just under £12k and mileage is 18k. Rooting around the forum it seems like there might be a lot of troubled motoring ahead! I would welcome any views. Cheers.

Hi there,

I have been to look at a 2008 (08) Superb elegance and it seems like a good buy. My question is. Is it? Price is just under £12k and mileage is 18k. Rooting around the forum it seems like there might be a lot of troubled motoring ahead! I would welcome any views. Cheers.

Is it a 2.0 or 2.5 ?

The issues with the 2.0 I think will have bben sorted by the 08 models

The 2.5 doesn't seem to have too many issues, although ownership is high priced with fuel and servicing

If you're worried about the water ingress problem, don't, just make sure you clear the bungs every 6 mths, no need if there's no water under the plastic cover, and don't park under trees.

Price wise, I'd be looking nearer 10k myself.

Must admit that as a 55 plate 2.5TDi owner, I think the costs of ownership of a 2.5 v a 2.0 are grossly exaggerated. Presently I commute weekly to Surrey from Cheshire M6/M40/M25 and travel M25 each weekday in between about 60 miles. The trip computer always shows around 48 to 52 mpg and the car has been virtually trouble free (62k miles, see below). Fair to say that I am a pretty gentle driver really though, rarely exceeding 75mph. The cambelt and water pump costs more to change (about £500) but that's about it versus the 1.9 and 2.0. In 62k miles I have had front and rear pads, 4 front tyres, 2 rear tyres and a brake light bulb. Present tyres look good for about another 12k miles I'd say. This year I intend to replace the battery before winter and check the plenum drains as usual. The pollen filter seal has been replaced. I have no interior front lights but this seems to be due to poor wiring joints rather than water ingress, this seems very common to all B5's not just the 2.5. Overall l I've been very very happy with the car and recommend it.

Must admit that as a 55 plate 2.5TDi owner, I think the costs of ownership of a 2.5 v a 2.0 are grossly exaggerated. Presently I commute weekly to Surrey from Cheshire M6/M40/M25 and travel M25 each weekday in between about 60 miles. The trip computer always shows around 48 to 52 mpg and the car has been virtually trouble free (62k miles, see below). Fair to say that I am a pretty gentle driver really though, rarely exceeding 75mph. The cambelt and water pump costs more to change (about £500) but that's about it versus the 1.9 and 2.0. In 62k miles I have had front and rear pads, 4 front tyres, 2 rear tyres and a brake light bulb. Present tyres look good for about another 12k miles I'd say. This year I intend to replace the battery before winter and check the plenum drains as usual. The pollen filter seal has been replaced. I have no interior front lights but this seems to be due to poor wiring joints rather than water ingress, this seems very common to all B5's not just the 2.5. Overall l I've been very very happy with the car and recommend it.

I agree with all Fred's comments - I love the car.

Is it a 2.0 or 2.5 ?

The issues with the 2.0 I think will have bben sorted by the 08 models

The 2.5 doesn't seem to have too many issues, although ownership is high priced with fuel and servicing

If you're worried about the water ingress problem, don't, just make sure you clear the bungs every 6 mths, no need if there's no water under the plastic cover, and don't park under trees.

Price wise, I'd be looking nearer 10k myself.

Its a 2L (140). As a bit of a technophobe will I need to do anything complicated to keep it running? I think the spec is excellent but I don't want it in the garage to often! One other thing. How is the sat nav on this? Do you have to pay to update it and if so how much and how often? Thanks in advance.

Whether you look after it or not, oil pump drive failure is pretty common on the 2.0 TDi, it seems. Good luck, but I'd buy a 1.9 or a 2.5 every time myself over a 2.0. The StaNav fitted to the old Superb, is in my opinion, next to useless. When I put in an address there's a ~75% chance it isn't in there. The partial post code entry feature is dire. The menu functions are archaic. Best to buy a TomTom or similar to be honest. My Superb tells me I'm "off the road" around Wetherby on the M1, for example.

Edited 8 August, 201015 yr by Fred Bloggs

Dont be fooled by the luxury interior and the sat nav and shiny alloys.....at the end of the day if its a 2.0ltr tdi your interested in, then i would suggest you walk away and save yourself a lot of grief...like i'm experiencing atm...unless of course your filthy rich !

I would agree with the above.

If VAG had acted responsibly and admitted to this problem, replaced the faulty engines and been totally upfront about the engines affected by this design fault, my feelings and recommendations would be different. As it is - barge pole.

The first thing anyone needs when buying a vehicle with a 2.0 PD engine is a list from VAG of the affected engine types and the engine serial numbers from which modifications were made. The same applies to the other vehicles in the VAG range using the Teves Mk 60 brake controller. You'll never ever get it.

As all that VAG can do is to raise a smoke screen rather than making this information publicly available, it's obvious a potential customer is on very dubious ground buying any of the affected products. The notion of a Skoda dealer "investigating" a 2.0 PD engine with no oil pressure (probably at the customer's expense) is just an insult. VAG know perfectly well these engines are junk. The "investigation" is just another cash claw-back for them - much as is the "price" of (say) £2k for an engine which costs them about £300 to build.

If new engines really cost the figures quoted, VAG could not sell cars at the asking price.

There are some makers around (Toyota) who are more honest about dealing with their problems. Cars are complex products and none is perfect. The test of an organisation is the way in which mistakes are rectified. Draw your own conclusions in this case.

rotodiesel.

Hi there,

I have been to look at a 2008 (08) Superb elegance and it seems like a good buy. My question is. Is it? Price is just under £12k and mileage is 18k. Rooting around the forum it seems like there might be a lot of troubled motoring ahead! I would welcome any views. Cheers.

hi same views as the others i own a 2.0 140 brake 55 plate elegance got to say love the car but after 1yr the oil pump went at 57k £755 to get sorted at a specialist all OK now turned the engine off straight away but the question is how long before it happens and not will it happen

Well ive no idea how much a new engine would cost.....and i dont particularly want to pay for the investigation either....far as i'm concerned they caused the problem......they can fix it.......even if the engine did cost 300 quid to make

Back in 1992 I had a 1.9TDi engine replaced under warranty in a 6 month old Audi 80 due to oil blowing through the turbo compressor and into the intercooler and emptying the sump. The dealer showed me the invoice because he was gob smacked at the prices. A new engine, new exhaust catalyst and new clutch came to over £7000 just for the parts. As I say, that was 1992!

Back in 1992 I had a 1.9TDi engine replaced under warranty in a 6 month old Audi 80 due to oil blowing through the turbo compressor and into the intercooler and emptying the sump. The dealer showed me the invoice because he was gob smacked at the prices. A new engine, new exhaust catalyst and new clutch came to over £7000 just for the parts. As I say, that was 1992!

I can join that club, how much for a 1996 2.5 V6 Omega engine in 1998?

£8000 reduced from £11000 the year it was born.

But as Roto said, thats retail, for them to build it is probably no more than £1000, and that's being generous I might add.