I was pounding the M25 over the weekend, albeit at a respectable speed, when I saw a new Fabia vRS in that still-haven't-decided-green looming in the mirrors.

He pulled out, slowed to equal my speed, we looked at each other and gave a brief smile and nod then he floored it into the distance. From this I assume:

1. He used to be a Mk1 vRS owner who recognised the virtues but had decided to upgrade to the latest model or

2. He'd upgraded and was missing the torque of the diesel so had to demonstrate the high-revving 1.4 and seven speed gearbox in the best way he could!

180bhp v 130 bhp

no contest really....

I was pounding the M25 over the weekend, albeit at a respectable speed, when I saw a new Fabia vRS in that still-haven't-decided-green looming in the mirrors.

He pulled out, slowed to equal my speed, we looked at each other and gave a brief smile and nod then he floored it into the distance. From this I assume:

1. He used to be a Mk1 vRS owner who recognised the virtues but had decided to upgrade to the latest model or

2. He'd upgraded and was missing the torque of the diesel so had to demonstrate the high-revving 1.4 and seven speed gearbox in the best way he could!

I was not in the VRS, but in my Z4 yesterday on the M6..

I saw a pristine E36 325i out my rear view mirror. As we came level, he slowed down and there was a mutual nod of respect, and off he went...

Could be to do with the fact it was a BMW or to do with the nurburgring (I have the sticker on my Z4 when i visited it lastyear)...

I even got a thumbs up from a guy in an F430 which left me bemused a few months back.... :p Top guy!

Edited 8 September, 201015 yr by Beancounter1980

I was pounding the M25 over the weekend, albeit at a respectable speed, when I saw a new Fabia vRS in that still-haven't-decided-green looming in the mirrors.

He pulled out, slowed to equal my speed, we looked at each other and gave a brief smile and nod then he floored it into the distance. From this I assume:

1. He used to be a Mk1 vRS owner who recognised the virtues but had decided to upgrade to the latest model or

2. He'd upgraded and was missing the torque of the diesel so had to demonstrate the high-revving 1.4 and seven speed gearbox in the best way he could!

Maybe he wanted to say hello but was in a hurry? Obviously polite being as he slowed down and gave you a nod. Maybe he thought you would be interested in seeing the performance of the new vRS? I wouldn't worry, just ask him what his mpg is

just ask him what his mpg is

lol

he was just saying ,

"look at me i think my new vrs is better than yours"

going down the M606 yesterday had a 1.4 i think fabia mk1 in front 3 young lads in it stuck to the glass looking at the FMIC im geussing stayed there for a few mins then moved over to let me pass i smiled as i went past and got a thumbs up

how would a remapped mk1 vrs compare to a mk2 vrs?

I get a lot of that in the VR6 and I also get all ages stopping to say hello as they're walking past.

It used to make me paranoid when I first got it but I still never understood why as the car is lowered a little but otherwise standard looking. It's as subtle looking as hot hatches go.

how would a remapped mk1 vrs compare to a mk2 vrs?

mine is remaped and i have driven a MK2 VRS and i felt mine would still have the edge

mine is remaped and i have driven a MK2 VRS and i felt mine would still have the edge

NOT A CHANCE!!!

My old Fabia vRS was remapped (AmD One Click) and was damned quick but the new one will leave it for dead!!

So impressed..we ordered one for the wife

how would a remapped mk1 vrs compare to a mk2 vrs?

Well a remapped mk1 vrs would have roughly the same BHP but more then 100 fl lbs of torque extra so in theroy if you can do some rapid perfect shifts (like that dam DSG box) you could indeed take him (like a king)

Whats the kerb weight of the mk 2's. They will be similar flywheel figures after the mk 1 remap, and the diesel will of cpirse have torque on its side. So i wouldnt go as far as 'leave it for dead'

Whats the kerb weight of the mk 2's.

1318kg

So pretty much identical to mk 1. Be pretty close id say

Well a remapped mk1 vrs would have roughly the same BHP but more then 100 fl lbs of torque extra so in theroy if you can do some rapid perfect shifts (like that dam DSG box) you could indeed take him (like a king)

what do ya mean by rapid perfect shifts? lol like the perfect rpm to change at to get the most power or just as quickly as possible? lol

love the "like a king" lol

So pretty much identical to mk 1. Be pretty close id say

Why the heck is the mk 2 so heavy when it's a 1.4 petrol engine?! What have they done to it?! Lined it with lead?!

I get a lot of that in the VR6 and I also get all ages stopping to say hello as they're walking past.

It used to make me paranoid when I first got it but I still never understood why as the car is lowered a little but otherwise standard looking. It's as subtle looking as hot hatches go.

This is definitely out of the blue, but I had a dabble with a VR6 on the motorway on Sunday and sat behind him up to erm 'legal' speeds (for a track). It wasn't you was it??

Well a remapped mk1 vrs would have roughly the same BHP but more then 100 fl lbs of torque extra so in theroy if you can do some rapid perfect shifts (like that dam DSG box) you could indeed take him (like a king)

I think it'd be very close. My friend has a brand new Ibiza on order with the 1.4TSi engine, so i'm gonna see what it's like in comparison to mine when it arrives!

So pretty much identical to mk 1. Be pretty close id say

Me too

Why the heck is the mk 2 so heavy when it's a 1.4 petrol engine?! What have they done to it?! Lined it with lead?!

100KG lighter than MK1, but lacks the torque. I think it'd be even stevens tbh

It's only a matter of time till someone sets up a drag race

and sticks a vid on you tube.

I think a circa 180bhp mapped mark1 vs a standard mark 2

would probably be a very close thing.

But standard mark 1 VS standard mark 2?

Can't see why they'd make the new one slower :no:

At that price nobody would buy it if it wasn't better.

Well a remapped mk1 vrs would have roughly the same BHP but more then 100 fl lbs of torque extra so in theroy if you can do some rapid perfect shifts (like that dam DSG box) you could indeed take him (like a king)

if you're talking about racing, both going flat out then I don't reckon the extra torque would be enough of a difference maker

Would be pretty close IMO. To the point where the gear changes decide it, which is where the mk2 will be perfect every time

Matt

It would be close in terms of who crosses the line first, but the drive comparision would be huge! Longer rev range, no turbo lag compared to sudden turbo spikes. Lets just say i dont thonk they would be side by side on a strip, but would probably end up with similar times

sudden turbo spikes?

I quite enjoy forcing Lummox's Boca into revving higher before changing up ..... same engine/gearbox