Octavia Mk 2 2.0tdi L&K.

Symptons - cut out and refused to start, no lights or mfd on dash. came back to life after about 5 minutes. Has had intermittent cruise control issue over the last year, which I have assumed is the switch fault.

Scan below, Any ideas appreciated. Dealers is an hour away so any help appreciated.

Sunday,19,September,2010,18:23:35:45117

VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0

Data version: 20100630

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Chassis Type: 1K0

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 36 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 76

VIN: TMBF***************** Mileage: 62630km/38916miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010

36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl

Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LD HW: 03G 906 021 LD

Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 8514

Revision: --H06--- Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4077360

Coding: 0000072

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 6CDC72A936E0

1 Fault Found:

005784 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics

P1698 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100001

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 35

Mileage: 60375 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 12:42:24

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 798 /min

Speed: 3.0 km/h

Load: 0.0 %

Voltage: 14.29 V

Bin. Bits: 11101111

Bin. Bits: 00000000

(no units): 0.0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-614-517-MK60-F.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 614 517 AC HW: 1K0 614 517 AC

Component: ESP FRONT MK60-AT 0102

Revision: 00H14001

Coding: 0055938

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 68D40EB92218

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl

Part No: 1Z0 907 044 J

Component: ClimatronicPQ35 084 0305

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 3D7A8FED1D1A

3 Faults Found:

00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)

009 - Open or Short to Ground

01316 - ABS Control Module

004 - No Signal/Communication

01314 - Engine Control Module

004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl

Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE HW: 3C0 937 049 AE

Component: Bordnetz-SG H52 2002

Revision: 00H52000 Serial number: 00000004715131

Coding: E18A8F130004140000110D000000000000087F065C0000

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 6CDC72A936E0

Part No: 1Z2 955 119 C

Component: Wischer 090207 022 0601

Coding: 00055223

Shop #: WSC 73430

Part No: 1K0 955 559 AB

Component: RLS 080207 020 0105

Coding: 00471077

Shop #: WSC 73430

4 Faults Found:

02403 - Terminal 15 for Interior

012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00101100

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 150

Mileage: 62628 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2005.09.13

Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:

ON

Voltage: 12.95 V

ON

ON

OFF

OFF

OFF

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)

004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100100

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 150

Mileage: 62628 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2005.09.13

Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:

ON

Voltage: 13.80 V

ON

ON

OFF

OFF

OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module

004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100100

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 150

Mileage: 62628 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2005.09.13

Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:

ON

Voltage: 12.35 V

ON

ON

OFF

OFF

OFF

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)

004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100100

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 150

Mileage: 62628 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2005.09.13

Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:

ON

Voltage: 12.40 V

ON

ON

OFF

OFF

OFF

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AA HW: 1K0 909 605 AA

Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8 027 0900

Revision: 11027000 Serial number: 003B5D114KAP

Coding: 0020788

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 6BDE71B533EE

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ

Component: J0527 036 0070

Coding: 0002042

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 8102B31DA162

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX

Component: E0221 002 0010

1 Fault Found:

00895 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)

014 - Defective - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl

Part No SW: 1Z0 920 942 D HW: 1Z0 920 942 D

Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1612

Revision: V1612036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4077360

Coding: 0007401

Shop #: WSC 20035 576 91874

VCID: 39729BFD0932

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K HW: 1K0 907 951

Component: J533__Gateway H04 0021

Revision: H04 02 Serial number: 130207F2001345

Coding: 7D7F074007002303

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 2F66A5A5C776

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl

Part No SW: 1Z0 920 942 D HW: 1Z0 920 942 D

Component: IMMO VD1 1612

Revision: V1612036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4077360

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 39729BFD0932

1 Fault Found:

01176 - Key

008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00101000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 2

Mileage: 33510 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 17:36:24

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl

Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 C HW: 3C0 959 760 C

Component: Sitzverstellung 1001

Revision: 00004000 Serial number: 00000000000000

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 2D5ABFADCD7A

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl

Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 E HW: 1T0 959 701 E

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0946

Coding: 0001022

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 39729BFD0932

1 Fault Found:

00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131)

012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl

Part No: 1K2 909 144 L

Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806

Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108

VCID: 356A97CD252A

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb

Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT

Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0203

Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000

Coding: 81801A085283007F3F02050FC008DF96907C00

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 830EB915BB7E

Part No: 1Z0 951 171

Component: Innenraumueberw.008 4801

Coding: 00000000

Shop #: WSC 73430

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C

Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Component: NGS n.mounted

1 Fault Found:

00332 - Control Circuit for Tank Flap

007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100111

Fault Priority: 4

Fault Frequency: 187

Reset counter: 123

Mileage: 38045 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 19:52:52

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl

Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 E HW: 1T0 959 702 E

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0946

Coding: 0001022

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 3A7084F10C34

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl

Part No: 1T0 907 357

Component: Dynamische LWR 0003

Coding: 0000007

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: F4ECEAC9EED0

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl

Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 D HW: 1Z0 035 156 D

Component: Radio FO3 004 0009

Revision: 00004000 Serial number: SKZ7Z4G0003321

Coding: 0000400

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 336EA9D52B5E

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J HW: 1K0 959 703 J

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0907

Coding: 0000144

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544

VCID: 37769DC53F26

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J HW: 1K0 959 704 J

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0907

Coding: 0000144

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544

VCID: 38749EF93238

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 1Z0-919-283.lbl

Part No SW: 1Z0 919 283 B HW: 1Z0 919 283 B

Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H04 0020

Coding: 0000001

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 3D7A8FED1D1A

1 Fault Found:

00576 - Terminal 15

008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00101000

Fault Priority: 3

Fault Frequency: 2

Reset counter: 150

Mileage: 62628 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 13:22:50

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not being techincally gifted in any way and not really understanding CANBUS or VCDS etc my first reaction with those sympthoms would have been to ensure that my battery was properly connected.

How old is your battery?

Also check that you don't have a wire that's rubbed through anywhere and is touching the bodywork.

Edited 20 September, 201015 yr by cheezemonkhai

As already mentioned my first port of call would be to check the Battery.

As already mentioned my first port of call would be to check the Battery.

It is not the battery (I know this because it is my car!).

Once left for a while it starter as if nothing had happened. Pleantly of battery power. also a dead battery would not lead to a cut out. Once running, you can disconnect the thing and it will keep running (although not good for it really).

Phil

Edited 20 September, 201015 yr by storm monkey

Next I would check cabling to engine fuse box and fuse box itself looking for damage/looseness. loss of power there would cause cut out and lack of lights MFD etc.

It is not the battery (I know this because it is my car!).

Once left for a while it starter as if nothing had happened. Pleantly of battery power. also a dead battery would not lead to a cut out. Once running, you can disconnect the thing and it will keep running (although not good for it really).

Phil

A dead battery can cause a modern derv to stop running as you need the ecu. It depends on how it's failing.

As before though wiring and see if anything links all the affected systems such as a common earth point.

I had another 2 engine stops yesterday, in my 5 min drive home. I've put a meter on the battery and it is fine. The charge rate from the altenator is fine too, so I am satisfied that it is not that. Intermittent failure of a connection is a possibility, but whatever it is could take a while to find. The MFD and dach warning lights were lit on one occasion, until I turned the ignition on and off again, then nothing for a while. Whatever it is takes 5 mins to recover each time. I would have thought a wiring fault would not be time dependent to rectify its-self, which is why I think this is probably electronic rather than electrical, however I will check the wiring this evening anyway.

The only other symptom I noticed this time was a large black puff of smoke on restart, so I guess it is overfueling at some point, either when it dies or when it restarts. I don't get this smoke on a normal restart.

To make things worse, I can't even get the Corrado out and use that instead, as the tractor is knackered too, and its in the way :'( .

Phil

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Edited 21 September, 201015 yr by mrose

It looks like you have had a battery/alternator problem at some time in the past. Some of the faults are logged as date: 2005.09.13 @ around 60K (various actual mileages) others 2000.00.00 @ around 30-odd K. That date is odd in itself. Have you had the ECU swapped out at any time?

These are old codes and are muddying the water. My advice would be to clear all of the fault codes, drive again and rescan after the next cut out. At least then you will have a more accurate indication of what might be causing the current problem.

Repost the result here and we'll be in with a shout. My initial guess is the ECU is unhappy for some reason.

Best Regards,

Mark

Edited 21 September, 201015 yr by mrose

I had another 2 engine stops yesterday, in my 5 min drive home. I've put a meter on the battery and it is fine. The charge rate from the altenator is fine too, so I am satisfied that it is not that. Intermittent failure of a connection is a possibility, but whatever it is could take a while to find. The MFD and dach warning lights were lit on one occasion, until I turned the ignition on and off again, then nothing for a while. Whatever it is takes 5 mins to recover each time. I would have thought a wiring fault would not be time dependent to rectify its-self, which is why I think this is probably electronic rather than electrical, however I will check the wiring this evening anyway.

The only other symptom I noticed this time was a large black puff of smoke on restart, so I guess it is overfueling at some point, either when it dies or when it restarts. I don't get this smoke on a normal restart.

To make things worse, I can't even get the Corrado out and use that instead, as the tractor is knackered too, and its in the way :'( .

Phil

My Battery was showing fine on the tests, but two of the cells were shorting and every time they did it stopped.

Replaced and it's all good.

I haven't had an oportunity to get it to the dealers yet, as it's going to be bit of an expedition. The trailer I borrowed bent, and wrecked my mid undertray . As a last ditch effort yesterday, I replaced the battery, and no change. I'm starting to think it's an immobiliser problem, as the thing just stops and then won't even try to turn the engine, and there are no other noises when the key is turned. Everything else seems to function ok, lights, MFD, radio, wipers etc. Last night's lock out took nearly an hour to clear.

Hopefully my local friendly garage will be able to lend me a towing A frame to get it the 40 odd miles to the nearest main dealer.

If it was immobiliser I would not have thought it would effect dashboard lights (first post) as the immobiliser would (i think) only effect ignition ie the ecu would tell car not to turn over/provide fuel. I could be wrong though!

I would agree with cheezemonkhai, quite a few seemingly unrelated dtcs particuarly one that says "Short to Ground Intermittent" points strongly to an earth fault, battery issue or wiring issue. Perhaps there is some water getting in somewhere or some wires with damaged insulation.

HI

Did you clear all the fault codes after that print out you posted??? Did any of them come back stright away.

Lots of fault codes come up with people unpluging stuff with the ign on or while the engine is running.

Chris K