I need some techie advice.

Last nite some SCROTE had a go at breaking into the car, the chrome on the key hole drivers side has been damaged. They left the hole twisted to approx 15 Degrees. ( The only up side was that they did not scratch the paintwork).

I have tried the key and it works O.K. on unlocking the door, SO this being the second time it has happened ( the first time on my Octy ). I want to replace the Drivers door handle with a keyhole less one like on the passenger side.

HELP PLEASE...........

Thanks

Steve

i have done it on both my last seats,both remote c/l and alarm immobiliser,i am gonna do it on my octy asap.i can't garantee it will work on yours but i am gonna stick my neck and say it MAY work.

I think it sounds like someone else wants a keyless handle off my wreck.

edit: anyone know for sure whether rear door handles, will fit in the place of front door handles? :confused:

http://www.leoncupra.co.uk/

theres an easy way to find out jase,get me one in the post

Front and rear handles are the same and can be interchanged if your delocking.

But rememeber if you remote battery goes flat your in trouble.

they look the same on octavia and fabia ross ,is this right mate?

Yes, they are the same.

Remember Steve, ulnike the Octavia there is not another way to get into the car so if the fobs battery goes flat, you are in the doo doo.

but if the fob battery goes flat and you use the key to unlock, the second you open the door the alarm goes off?!

but if the fob battery goes flat and you use the key to unlock, the second you open the door the alarm goes off?!

But if the car has been de-locked by fitting rear handles on the front doors, there's no option but to use the key fob... I think if I had this on my car I'd carry around a spare battery in my wallet, just in case.

Ah but what i'm saying is why would you want to get into the car when you know for certain that if your fob is dead, the alarm will be active if you use the key.

I can see it being ok on a car without an alarm but the vRS has one so it doesnt make sense why there is a keyhole there anyway?

I can see it being ok on a car without an alarm but the vRS has one so it doesnt make sense why there is a keyhole there anyway?

so that if the fob battery goes flat then you can open the door.

The alarm only goes off after 30 seconds if you don't start the engine which will disable the alarm, or if you open on of the other doors first whether you have the fob part or not. The non-key part of the fob (the part you can remove to replace the battery) only controls the remote central locking and has nothing to do with the immobilizer.

I swear and place money on the fact dads has gone off quicker than 30 seconds. Infact i think the last time was about 2 seconds...

I know the fob has nothing to do with the immobiliser (only my car does that) - and i have a covered key hole somewhere - again pointless.

So if you've been shopping and want to get in and the car fob battery is dead, you have to start the car (potential for stealing) before you can start loading the boot?

I'm still seeing that would rather just not get in the car and if out somewhere 9/10 you are near a shop so you can replace the battery. if you are at home, you are with your spare fob...

Personally i dont like manual ways of doing things, and am all for digital and automation. Everything has its plus' and minus' and the worst of having a lock is a greater increase in attempts to enter the vehicle - 2 in 2 cars no IIRC.

So if you've been shopping and want to get in and the car fob battery is dead' date=' you have to start the car (potential for stealing) before you can start loading the boot?

I'm still seeing that would rather just not get in the car and if out somewhere 9/10 you are near a shop so you can replace the battery. if you are at home, you are with your spare fob...

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Well you start the car and then turn it off, the alarm is now off untill the car is relocked, by key or otherwise.

If you are near a shop that sell batteries then fair enough, but that is not always the case, and again with your house and the spare fob. You have to chance it, if not there is always the AA.

Now the battery should last longer than your dad will own the car anyway, making most of this converstaion irrelevant, but you can never be 100% sure.

Fair enough about the start stop, can see how that makes sense, and suppose you have the added feature of laser cut coded keys.

So working back then, if we say the battery will last longer than the car (and i'd be surprised its not part of a service?! mine is ) then we can go back to post #4

well it should last longer than his ownership of the car.

Anyway, back to post 4

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theres an easy way to find out jase' date='get me one in the post [/quote']

Had a conversation with a recently trained sales guy ref this.

If you lock the door via the Fob, and open with the key, that alarm will go off.

If you lock & open with the key, the alarm will NOT go off.

So, if the battery dies and you have locked the car with the fob, doesn't the transponder in the key also deactivate the immobliser? when inserted into the ignition, or is that down to that Laser cut of the key, AND why does the dealer have to code the key with the car ?

Also as was pointed out, when the battery starts to go, you will experience difficulty unlocking, as it will start to take several attempts to unlock, & it will reach a stage where you will have to be standing right up to the car to get it to work.

So in all this discussion I have decided to risk it and de lock the drivers door.

Next question

How easy is it, given it links to the central locking, should I 1) Destroy It Myself OR 2 ) let the dealer do it. ( there is still warranty on the car )

So' date=' if the battery dies and you have locked the car with the fob, doesn't the transponder in the key also deactivate the immobliser? when inserted into the ignition, or is that down to that Laser cut of the key, AND why does the dealer have to code the key with the car ?

Also as was pointed out, when the battery starts to go, you will experience difficulty unlocking, as it will start to take several attempts to unlock, & it will reach a stage where you will have to be standing right up to the car to get it to work.

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You do not need the transponder to open the door, or start the car without the alarm going off. It is also written in the manual that there should be a 30 second delay between the opening of the drivers door and the alarm going off for you to start the car and disable the alarm. If you open any other door before the drivers door the alarm will sound.

The dealer has to match the immobiliser code in the car to the one in the key. Otherwise the car will not start. If you take the key apart and have a look the key part is a chunk of it and will have the immobilsiser chip in it. The transponder is the other half with the battery.

Sounds like a good idea removing the key hole,but i gots to thinking now piece of **** thief has no place to stick his screwdriver so may damage paint or glass looking for another way in.

The way I look at it , whoever tinkered with the car saw my satelite control for the MP3 player, and thats wot they were after as there was nothing else on display ( not the car ), So my Thinking now is, the satelite control, will now be removed EVERY time I leave the car, and if they really wanted the car they would have gone via the glass anyway.

So the lock might as well come off now. :(

Sad state of affairs isn't it.

Steve

The way I look at it ' date=' whoever tinkered with the car saw my satelite control for the MP3 player, and thats wot they were after as there was nothing else on display ( not the car ), So my Thinking now is, the satelite control, will now be removed EVERY time I leave the car, and if they really wanted the car they would have gone via the glass anyway.

So the lock might as well come off now. :(

Sad state of affairs isn't it.

Steve[/quote']

Cant have anything nice these days

Shame we cant electrify the door handles like they are allowed to in South Africa

Well

Here is an update -

Spoken to the dealer today and said I want the Drivers door lock removed.

He was looking at the door lock assembly, and found a blank plate to go where the key hole should be , but had a choice of Plastic or Metal ?( approx