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Shallow Sump/Dry Sump

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I'm now looking to lower my vRS as much as possible but I'm worried about the sump getting in the way. I normally avoid routes with speed bumps and have none on my normal route to work, its more a case of bottoming out in dips and so on that I'm looking to avoid.

I've been debating fitting a dry sump system to the Fabia to give me some extra clearance, but I saw this shallow sump at PSI:

http://www.psituning.com/shop/product.php/14470/1_9tdi_shallow_sump__diesel_

Seems much cheaper, even if it doesn't give me the other benefits of a dry sump. Anybody had any experience of shallow sumps?

It should be cheaper; all it is is a wet sump with a shallower well. I note they don't say what the actual oil capacity of it is, presumably to stop people thinking "will my engine work ok with less oil in it? Also possibly to stop people wondering if you'll increase the risk of oil starvation in fast driving.

If you go this route, you will need to check the oil level and change the oil more often

That sump is a cheap option and I'd think its easy to fit. A dry sump would be £1K plus and fitting would be a b1tch, you'd need room for the oil keg, ive just fitted one in my Westfield kit car, I wouldn't even consider it in a Fabia!

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I guess its the old, "if it sounds too good to be true it probably is" :( I will ask PSI what the capacity is. Anybody know what the capacity of the standard sump is? And how big the tank should be for a dry sump?

How far can you route the tank for a dry sump? I ask as the rear seats are going in my Fabia and a half cage going in, so I'd have some space and somewhere to bolt it too if that isn't too far from the engine.

I guess its the old, "if it sounds too good to be true it probably is" :( I will ask PSI what the capacity is. Anybody know what the capacity of the standard sump is? And how big the tank should be for a dry sump?

How far can you route the tank for a dry sump? I ask as the rear seats are going in my Fabia and a half cage going in, so I'd have some space and somewhere to bolt it too if that isn't too far from the engine.

No idea the OEM sump capacity. Ive seen cars with the keg in the boot, fits its under pressure so it doesn't really matter. There are single or twin scavenge sump kits, single just being a simple pipe in and out system with an oil pump and the twin kit is the one that needs priming and its all gets a bit complicated.

i thought I'd got a pressured system then found out I hadn't which made everything very simple.

They reckon a dry sump gets you the equivalent of an extra 5 bhp due to the engine not being starved of oil when under harsh cornering.

Good luck :clap:

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Hit a bit of a blocker with this one as its looking like £2k+ for a proper kit. Can't understand why they are so expensive, are they much more than the tank, pump, hosing, and blanking plate?

No idea the OEM sump capacity. Ive seen cars with the keg in the boot, fits its under pressure so it doesn't really matter. There are single or twin scavenge sump kits, single just being a simple pipe in and out system with an oil pump and the twin kit is the one that needs priming and its all gets a bit complicated.

i thought I'd got a pressured system then found out I hadn't which made everything very simple.

They reckon a dry sump gets you the equivalent of an extra 5 bhp due to the engine not being starved of oil when under harsh cornering.

Good luck :clap:

Any extra power depends on engine size and revs as well as windage/porting work beneath the pistons in the block and the crank. Regardless of that, the dry sump pulls a depression (partial vacuum) on the bottom end of the engine. This potentially improves ring seal and reduces windage and parasitic drag on the crank.

PS: Just noticed it's too late for this sort of post. Off to bed zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

J.

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