I'm driving the Octavia version of this car to see if the engine is any good in a 1300kg car, never mind a 1470kg one.

Well, it ain't going to win any traffic light grand prixs and I wouldn't like to tow anything but as long as you change down at least one gear it will pull and accelerate.

Might just be ok in a Superb.

Steve

As skoda quote in the performance figures, the 1.6 and 1.9 diesel engines are almost indentical in performance and torques...plus the 1.6 is a tad more fuel efficient...as our greenline superb is a 1.9 derived model, we have had no issues with it at all, and found it to be pretty quick, and ecconomical, and cruise very easily at 80mph plus with cruise control on.....something that you wont get on the newer model as it has to be ordered, along with the dark glass at the back, the boot spoiler, the shark fin ariel thats been removed and built in the rear window,the carbon fibre like trim on doors and dash...plus its more expensive than the previous superb greenline and one has to pay more vat !!...i think my wife got a good deal getting the greenline 1.9 tdi.

Cruise is standard on the SE which I would get.

Mine would be a company car. It's a decision between a Greenline and a 320 Efficient Dynamics.

One has the space and the other the power!

Steve

And what with fuel rising by the day almost, the greenline is a good choice...more miles and more space and a touch of individuality...see an awful lot of bmw's and not so many greenline superbs...its just an image thing at the end of the day and of course a bmw is nice to have...deffinately a different machine than the superb. It's a case of whether you can live with a superb and miss the bmw, or miss the superb for what it has compared to the bmw...i think a toss of a coin might help

If I went for the superb, it would be my third Skoda.

If I could have had another vRS or a 170 Superb there would be no doubt which I would choose. However, the fastest most powerful car I can have is the BMW but the largest the Superb. The mpg of the two cars is much the same! Remarkable given the power differences.

Steve

For the sake of space in the superb...if you like powerful engines and lets face it everyone does...then it has to be the bmw....or go the whole hog and get a 3.6 v6 hehe.

The 320 ED is about twice the cost per month of a Greenline SE on my company car list :(

Hoping to get a test drive in a Superb Greenline 2 reasonably soon, but any feedback on how the 1.6 CR copes on UK roads would be really welcome. I know I'm not going to be overtaking many people on the back roads, but how does it do at 80 to 90 on the motorway, do you have to change down for m-way inclines, how does it cope on the typical twisty hilly single carriageway A road, that sort of stuff.

Can't deny the Greenline 2 Elegance gives me everything I want in terms of kit, economy and safety but is it just too underpowered I wonder? My current diesel is a leggy W reg Passat 1.9PD with the 115bhp engine and that's fine if not exactly fast but then it's a lighter car and has a bit more grunt.

It doesn't have to be fast, I have an Alpina for that, but it has to have the torque for relaxed driving without having to drop to 4th every time the speedo drops below 60 or you hit a bit of an incline. Also does anyone know what the waiting list is for one at the moment, is it as bad as the Yeti?

Cheers,

John

Edited 19 January, 201115 yr by charltjr

Guess they are now built to order.....only had to wait 2 weeks for our greenline superb.....mind you it was one of the last ones in stock.

Bear in mind in standard spec the new greenline has doesnt have the specifications as what the model it is replacing....they are all optional extra's.....i mean who wants a plastic steering wheel and gear knob? ...All adds up eventually...which is why i think the superb greenline when it came out was nicely spec'd for the price .

The BMW and the Greenline are the same monthly cost on our car scheme with Lex and the BIK tax is only £200 per year different.

The 1.6 will cruise on the motorway however to safely overtake in moderate traffic, I had to drop a gear -sometimes to third if moving from the inside to middle lane. I think 4 years in a 170bhp PD vRS has conditioned me into being a fast driver!

I'm afraid I am being swung towards the Bavarian Mini Wrecker!

Steve

BMW Vs Greenline 1,6cr = BMW

BMW Vs 2.0 Cr Elegance= Superb any day!!

Bear in mind in standard spec the new greenline has doesnt have the specifications as what the model it is replacing....they are all optional extra's.....i mean who wants a plastic steering wheel and gear knob? ...All adds up eventually...which is why i think the superb greenline when it came out was nicely spec'd for the price .

There's a lot more choice now though as you can get it in S, SE or Elegance trim and you get everything that comes in that trim unlike on the Octavia and Fabia, for example, where greenline is still a stand-alone spec.

I think that's a smart move, I was looking at the Octavia Greenline 2 as I need a bigger boot than the Golf class gives but the spec doesn't work for me at all. That's a possible lost sale for Skoda as if it was better specced it would have been my default choice but now I'm looking at Passat vs Superb. Giving people more options expands the market for the car, some people want a low spec car so the Greenline S is fine, but if you want more toys then SE or Elegance.

The sweet spot for me is the Greenline Elegance as by the time I've stuck an option or two on the SE it works out at the same company car cost as going straight for an Elegance which has an enormous spec.

Steve vRS - I don't blame you, the engine in that ED is a peach and if you don't really need the extra space I'd find it hard to resist too.

Cheers,

John

Edited 21 January, 201115 yr by charltjr

Well, I've been driving the BMW since Friday. I've been on a big shop, transported the family around and driven up and down the motorway.

My conclusion? Read on...

Interior. Cosy compared to the superb but roomy enough for the 4 of us. My kids are only 4 and 7 so the leg room of the BMW is enough.

Equipment. Looses out to the Superb SE in two main areas - the stereo is poor and the seats are cloth. Cruise control is an extra as well!

Looks. You see that many 3 series about, they are no longer a special sight. The Superb Estate is quite handsome in my opinion.

Boot. Need I go on?

Performance- 100 bhp Vs. 160bhp. Need I go on....well I will ! This car feels faster than the power figure. When I read the bumf, it has more torque than my vRS!

Handling and ride - The rear end of the BMW twitched, after a dab of oppo, I was away.

Economy - Well, the Octavia 1.6 I'm basing any performance on was no better than the BMW. Given the power, it's a miricle!

Co, Car tax - the BMW is about £200 more but the 109g/km makes it a bit more future proof.

SO, sorry chaps - I'm going to order the BMW. The size of the Superb is it's biggest selling point, but I would use the performance more than the space so there you go.

Steve

Useful comparison, thanks. Interesting to hear the economy of the ED manages to match the Octavia 1.6 CR, that's astonishing given the power difference!

To be honest, if I was facing the same choice, i'd probably opt for the Beemer, however, a saloon would be next to useless; an estate would be required. A 140Cr Superb hatch or tourer would be my choice between space, pace and economy.

As much as the Superb Greenline II is an appealing choice, I think it'd need remapping to give acceptable everyday performance, without having to drive it hard all the time.

Just got off from a 1.6 TDI Octy. Massively underpowered. Feels limper than the 1.9, although they are supposed to be the same on paper.

Must be worse on the Superb.

I personaly would not touch it with a 2 yard stick.

Just got off from a 1.6 TDI Octy. Massively underpowered. Feels limper than the 1.9, although they are supposed to be the same on paper.

Must be worse on the Superb.

I personaly would not touch it with a 2 yard stick.

Most people say the 1.6 doesn't pull from low revs like the 1.9 did. Reckon I might be looking for a late model 1.9 next year.

I have to point out, that i do not drive our superb greenline 1.9 hard at all...yeah the gearing takes some getting used to, but i havent had any issues. It cruises effortlessly on motorway above the national limit if required, and as for carrying a large family, the car copes rather well.Ok it is only105bhp, but i knew the low down torque would help in pulling away from standstill, also the car is basically tuned for those who wants mpg, and what with rising fuel prices, this car is beginning to show its merits.

I havent personally driven the 1.6 greenline, and although on paper the figures match that of the 1.9 tdi...but it is 300cc less, and if you transmit that small figure into the engine performance, then i feel the 1.6 will be under powered, but it does more mpg than the 1.9, which is basically due to the smaller engine size and the occasional tweaks of the ecu. so basically the cars are identical, except the greenline that 1st came out had its own specifications, and to match it on the next generation superb greenline isnt exactly cheap, plus the fact the vat has also gone up as well.

In my own opinion, i think the 1st generation of greenline superb what with its good ecconomy, the standard kit that it has including the boot spoiler and cruise control, makes it a very good purchase, for those who like ecconomy and looks.

I have to point out, that i do not drive our superb greenline 1.9 hard at all...yeah the gearing takes some getting used to, but i havent had any issues. It cruises effortlessly on motorway above the national limit if required, and as for carrying a large family, the car copes rather well.Ok it is only105bhp, but i knew the low down torque would help in pulling away from standstill, also the car is basically tuned for those who wants mpg, and what with rising fuel prices, this car is beginning to show its merits.

I havent personally driven the 1.6 greenline, and although on paper the figures match that of the 1.9 tdi...but it is 300cc less, and if you transmit that small figure into the engine performance, then i feel the 1.6 will be under powered, but it does more mpg than the 1.9, which is basically due to the smaller engine size and the occasional tweaks of the ecu.

Lots of user reports suggest that because the 1.6 has to be revved a bit more, and you need to change down a bit more, mpg gains may be minimal or even illusory.

Stuart

On paper i think if one was to use the car on a very long journey then you will see the high 60's even nudge into the 70's mpg...and for a big car with the comfort and the ecconomy only has to be a good thing...for the purists who prefer power and double the speed limit capabilities then that is their choice.If i'd been like 20 yrs younger i would probably be the same as in going for the fastest , thirstiest car on the road, and the highest car tax band...but at the end of the day, its all down to ones personal preference.....been there done that.....now its just relax and cruise

I have to point out, that i do not drive our superb greenline 1.9 hard at all...yeah the gearing takes some getting used to, but i havent had any issues. It cruises effortlessly on motorway above the national limit if required, and as for carrying a large family, the car copes rather well.Ok it is only105bhp, but i knew the low down torque would help in pulling away from standstill, also the car is basically tuned for those who wants mpg, and what with rising fuel prices, this car is beginning to show its merits.

I havent personally driven the 1.6 greenline, and although on paper the figures match that of the 1.9 tdi...but it is 300cc less, and if you transmit that small figure into the engine performance, then i feel the 1.6 will be under powered, but it does more mpg than the 1.9, which is basically due to the smaller engine size and the occasional tweaks of the ecu. so basically the cars are identical, except the greenline that 1st came out had its own specifications, and to match it on the next generation superb greenline isnt exactly cheap, plus the fact the vat has also gone up as well.

In my own opinion, i think the 1st generation of greenline superb what with its good ecconomy, the standard kit that it has including the boot spoiler and cruise control, makes it a very good purchase, for those who like ecconomy and looks.

I agree totally with Skodanut, my 1.9 Greenline has never given me cause for concern even when fully laden. On paper its torque is lower down than the 1.6 and in practice this shows up very well during everyday driving. Economy is also superb(sic) especially important now! Its very rare that I think that a 140 or 170 version is needed during my everyday driving. My only gripe is the lowered suspension and I seem to bottom out the car on some of the speed humps that Kent County Council seem to insist on!

Edited 26 January, 201115 yr by rosesteve

Keep an eye on the plastic shield that run's underneath the whole length of the car...my wife backed over a hump of some sort and ripped the joining section off near the rear wheel on passenger side and left the screws in the floorpan !! Got herself into a right old panic seeing it flapping about !! Had to remove the short section and re-weld it back into a similar shape it was before the mishap. Its fine now and i told her to drive over speed humps slowly...the plastic liner both sides of the car smooths the air flow under the car..and contributes to the excellent fuel ecconomy. And it also helps protect what looks like the fuel and hydraulic brake lines from corrosion.