Just checked and seems t-mobile are offering me an upgrade now after 14 months instead of October. Friend checked his and he's the same. Both have desire's both on 4gb limits since April last year.

Could this be a ploy to get people onto the lower limits? Must say tempted on a HTC sensation!

Also been finding I'm almost always on Orange roaming with rubbish speeds and constant stalkng. Again another trick so we use less data? Anyone else finding they're being roamed onto Orange even with good t-mobile coverage?

Since having my Galaxy S from a Nokia N86 i find the data signal better. I get H or 3G most of the time. My Nokia and swmbo'd Nokia seems to lock on to Orange and take an age to revert back to Tmob.

Good on getting a 14month upgrade - are you on 18 or 24 month upgrade? I rarely use over 200mb of data so i am fine with their 'unlimited' data. It is unlimited unless you are downloading anyway.

Was a 18 month contract back when they offered Gb's of data. I think anyone taking out a contract before this time last year will be on a similar package.

Guy in the T-mob store said the contract would end rather than get added to a new contract, which is what's making me suspicious it's a ploy to take my data limit away.

Depends how much data you use but it is still unlimited unless you do a lot of downloading.....for example you can browse the net and use email as much as you like.

True, but the FUP on downloading is now 500mb. When you go over they throttle your connection speed.

True, but the FUP on downloading is now 500mb. When you go over they throttle your connection speed.

Yes, this is what i have been transferred over too but browsing and emails isn't included in this....only downloading. As i say, what is your average monthly data usage - you should be able to see on My T-Mobile? If it is less than 500mb or even just over it will be ok.

I am lucky as we have 'guest' wireless at work so my phone is pretty much always on wifi when at work and home unless i am at a site without wireless.

About 700mb/month but thats everything. Emails surfing, videos and google maps

Bizarrely, I find a blackberry much better than an S2 for signal and the E series Nokia a mile better than both for holding onto signal and voice quality.

The think I hate most about Android phones, is the atrocious battery life.

Two days if you're really lucky, 1 day is typical and if you take it off charge just before you go to bed, you're down between 60 and 80% in the morning. Quite frankly that's pretty useless.

Bizarrely, I find a blackberry much better than an S2 for signal and the E series Nokia a mile better than both for holding onto signal and voice quality.

The think I hate most about Android phones, is the atrocious battery life.

Two days if you're really lucky, 1 day is typical and if you take it off charge just before you go to bed, you're down between 60 and 80% in the morning. Quite frankly that's pretty useless.

I only lose max 7% overnight.

To lose that much suggests an app is syncing too frequently. It's easy enough.to fix

I only lose max 7% overnight.

To lose that much suggests an app is syncing too frequently. It's easy enough.to fix

I'd have thought that, but there is nothing running apart from e-mail (active synch) and that's set to synch very infrequently at night.

Like I said, I was less than impressed and while a firmware update has helped it a bit, it's still really poor compared to the 7 to 14 days including use for a not particularly smart phone.

Next phone will have a smaller screen for certain.

Same here - i usually only loose 1-2% overnight.

Phones have come on over the last few years, unfortunately battery technology hasn't. You either have a smart phone which you have to charge every night or a not very smart phone which you charge once a week!

Yes, this is what i have been transferred over too but browsing and emails isn't included in this....only downloading.

I still have never seen anything which qualifies "browsing" vs "downloading". And after the debacle of a few months back where they tried to drop all the 3GB limit customers to 500MB, and recently new customers get "truly unlimited", I just can't be arsed with them as a company any more and am going to buy out my contract when it's a bit closer to the end and go back to "PAYG" with GiffGaff. At least then when they try and pull some stupid stunt I can just leave. T-Mobile is just full of nonsense now.

I'd have thought that, but there is nothing running apart from e-mail (active synch) and that's set to synch very infrequently at night.

Like I said, I was less than impressed and while a firmware update has helped it a bit, it's still really poor compared to the 7 to 14 days including use for a not particularly smart phone.

Next phone will have a smaller screen for certain.

Facebook and Twitter disabled?

Which phone?

Facebook and Twitter disabled?

Which phone?

Facepalm and Tw@tter are not installed or enabled.

It's a Galaxy S II.

It's android OS and the screen eating most of the power, but since the screen if off overnight, that's a lot of OS tricks.

Are you saying they've been removed, or you havent installed them?

What is running under settings>manage aps>running?

I assume bluetooth is off, and wi-fi is on but set to sleep after 15 mins? GPS is off unless used, so that being on doesnt matter.

Email sync's are a killer if too frequent. GMail app isnt that power hungry. Any weather apps?

Are you saying they've been removed, or you havent installed them?

What is running under settings>manage aps>running?

I assume bluetooth is off, and wi-fi is on but set to sleep after 15 mins? GPS is off unless used, so that being on doesnt matter.

Email sync's are a killer if too frequent. GMail app isnt that power hungry. Any weather apps?

They are not on the phone, never were and I have never installed them.

The running apps list has pretty much just the host OS and the samsung mail client.

As for the BT/Wi-Fi, both off and the mail synch hourly overnight.

No weather apps or any others.

The blackberry did all of this and lasted a number of days, so even if it is the apps which I can't see, I don't think there is an excuse.

They are not on the phone, never were and I have never installed them.

The running apps list has pretty much just the host OS and the samsung mail client.

As for the BT/Wi-Fi, both off and the mail synch hourly overnight.

No weather apps or any others.

The blackberry did all of this and lasted a number of days, so even if it is the apps which I can't see, I don't think there is an excuse.

If you can install appbrain, and post a link to your app list, I'll see if I can see any known battery eaters.

Gingerbread turns on and off app usage unlike Froyo and older, so tracking culprits down can be harder as they're stopped from always running, but that doesnt stop them eating battery unfortunately.

If you can install appbrain, and post a link to your app list, I'll see if I can see any known battery eaters.

Gingerbread turns on and off app usage unlike Froyo and older, so tracking culprits down can be harder as they're stopped from always running, but that doesnt stop them eating battery unfortunately.

I have the feeling it's a combination of things, but yeah it's Gingerbread.