The main reason I didn't buy a new vRS, it may be a fantastic car, but I don't want to adapt my driving to how vag think it should be. If I want to hold a low gear at high revs or set off at high revs in a low gear then that is my decision and *might* be the best solution in the given situation. A situation the VAG programmer as no way of knowing when he programmed the DSG software.

The main reason I didn't buy a new vRS, it may be a fantastic car, but I don't want to adapt my driving to how vag think it should be. If I want to hold a low gear at high revs or set off at high revs in a low gear then that is my decision and *might* be the best solution in the given situation. A situation the VAG programmer as no way of knowing when he programmed the DSG software.

Postmanpat I'll second that, also were are my LEDs bulbs can you deliver asap please

Edited 6 September, 201114 yr by seboni121

I've taken a punt on it and after a few test drives I really liked it. People who criticize the box either haven't driven it or haven't driven it for long enough like all the road testers who claim it takes the fun out of it. There's plenty on here and on other forums who won't go back to manual. I'll reserve judgement until I get mine and can really test it.

I've taken a punt on it and after a few test drives I really liked it. People who criticize the box either haven't driven it or haven't driven it for long enough like all the road testers who claim it takes the fun out of it. There's plenty on here and on other forums who won't go back to manual. I'll reserve judgement until I get mine and can really test it.

Same thing here... I started the thread out of curiosity, and not because of dissapointment whatsoever. I still believe it is a great box. Constant acceleration, no torque loss due to temporary disconnection of the wheels to the motor as in traditional boxes, and incredibly fast shift-ups, faster and smoother than any hand could achieve. So lots of pros there.

Also, there is no such thing as "adapting your drive style" to it. That's a big exaggeration, probably made by people who do not like anything new or different as it makes them uncomfortable. I have not changed the way I drive, and nor 3 of my friends that have already driven the car and loved the box it has. They all now want it in their cars so It gets down to personal taste, as with every other aspect

of a car like the engine's behaviour, the suspensions, etc.

Also, there is no such thing as "adapting your drive style" to it. That's a big exaggeration, probably made by people who do not like anything new or different as it makes them uncomfortable. I have not changed the way I drive, and nor 3 of my friends that have already driven the car and loved the box it has. They all now want it in their cars so It gets down to personal taste, as with every other aspect

of a car like the engine's behaviour, the suspensions, etc.

This x100.

This might be going against the tide of most opinion on here but I have had my vRS for 6 months now and would I consider going back to a manual car? YES I honestly would. Don't get me wrong I do like the DSG box and can fully appreciate its technical brilliance etc but part of me does agre with the road-testers in the mags that it does detract slightly from full involvement in the driving experience. I have 'adapted' my driving style to it over the last few months and am 100% aware of how to get the best from the 'box but it still seems a little 'soul-less' to me. Thats just my own personal view mind you, I guess deep down I get enjoyment from swapping cogs myself with a gearstick and clutch. Having said that there will be plenty of times this winter in heavy rush hour traffic in the pouring rain I will be jolly glad to have the DSG easing the stress behind the wheel!

Same thing here... I started the thread out of curiosity, and not because of dissapointment whatsoever. I still believe it is a great box. Constant acceleration, no torque loss due to temporary disconnection of the wheels to the motor as in traditional boxes, and incredibly fast shift-ups, faster and smoother than any hand could achieve. So lots of pros there.

Also, there is no such thing as "adapting your drive style" to it. That's a big exaggeration, probably made by people who do not like anything new or different as it makes them uncomfortable. I have not changed the way I drive, and nor 3 of my friends that have already driven the car and loved the box it has. They all now want it in their cars so It gets down to personal taste, as with every other aspect

of a car like the engine's behaviour, the suspensions, etc.

I will have to disagree, I took one out for an extensive test drive, and like I posted at the time I loved the box, until I put it into manual, and stuck it on some steep windy roads, the manual mode just isn't if you plan to use the engine to its full extent and to my mind the paddles have just been added to give some sort of sporty selling point (to plagiarise JC, for boy races to boast they can change gear like Michael Schuuuuuuuuumacker) If you leave it in auto then fine but the manual mode should switch off all the software, there is an engine limiter to protect over revving, then it would be a truly fantastic car.

This might be going against the tide of most opinion on here but I have had my vRS for 6 months now and would I consider going back to a manual car? YES I honestly would. Don't get me wrong I do like the DSG box and can fully appreciate its technical brilliance etc but part of me does agre with the road-testers in the mags that it does detract slightly from full involvement in the driving experience. I have 'adapted' my driving style to it over the last few months and am 100% aware of how to get the best from the 'box but it still seems a little 'soul-less' to me. Thats just my own personal view mind you, I guess deep down I get enjoyment from swapping cogs myself with a gearstick and clutch. Having said that there will be plenty of times this winter in heavy rush hour traffic in the pouring rain I will be jolly glad to have the DSG easing the stress behind the wheel!

I agree 100% with what you say....I've only had DSG for 1800 miles now but part of me is wondering did I make a mistake not going for a 3yo Clio 197 or a 7yr old E46 M3. I find on a back road even in manual mode, it's just a bit clinically fast.

Perhaps my opinion will change over time however I'm already thinking my next car will definitely be manual

Edited 7 September, 201114 yr by fletch555

Well sure it won't "work" for all drivers out there. For me its a big advance both in performance and in comfort compared to a manual one, but my 65year old father disagrees. Nothing to blame there.

Yeap, its exactly this. For me, change from D > N, then back N > D fixed it while crawling, didnt even stop.

A small correction though if I may, it is not the Manual Mode that its causing it, because even in Manual the car shifts down itself no problem. It is your own intervention at a time when its already about to change gears that it messes with its head, and more specifically when asking to go from 2nd to 1st.

It's happened two times, I once had it in D-Auto and second time in D-Manual so it's not the mode to blame but rather the driver's intervention asking something unexpected.

Not necessarily true. I stopped in an industrial estate, was using the paddles with the stick clicked to the left. Braking to allow for a lorry reversing into a yard and came to a halt I did not acctually change gear myself, I left the car to do its thing. When I moved across to the accelerator it had the same responce issues.

Not necessarily true. I stopped in an industrial estate, was using the paddles with the stick clicked to the left. Braking to allow for a lorry reversing into a yard and came to a halt I did not acctually change gear myself, I left the car to do its thing. When I moved across to the accelerator it had the same responce issues.

Hmmm, so the possible causes of this may be actually 2: D-Manual (your case) and paddle-downshifting to 1st gear (my case).

Anyway as I said, it has not happened again and I feel like I understand it better now but will keep an eye however.

In fact, after experimenting with all modes, I mostly use D-Auto with a few paddle interventions when I feel like it. Even in Auto, and even without activating kick-down, DSG senses when I want that extra torque and leaves current gear engaged for longer than it would if I drove slowly so that is enough for most situations. If not, a manual shift-down does the thing, I just take care not to drop it too low a gear.

Sport mode is still pretty useless for me... When I want "action" then I take control myself, rather than having the box shifting up just before a tricky turn.