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Fabia II diesels without DPF?

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I've been looking at Greenline II as I have a long commute (30K miles / year) but I'm a little concerned that

* the 1.2 unit is a bit new and unproven and

* it is equipped with a DPF which is a technology I'm not that keen on

(as you can probably guess I'm after a Greenline to save money and not the planet...!)

Does anyone know if the 1.4 or 1.9 PD units are fitted with DPF? I think Greenline I might be but I couldn't see such info for any other models.

The dealer I was in at the moment told me all current Skoda Fabia diesels (1.6 and 1.2) are fitted with DPF.

Many thanks!

James

Edited by jimbof

All new diesels will be fitted with DPF or similar technology eu regulations emissions :( so it's that or petrol I'm afraid :(

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All new diesels will be fitted with DPF or similar technology eu regulations emissions :( so it's that or petrol I'm afraid :(

So if I went for a 2008/2009 1.9 or 1.4 unit would that have DPF?

So if I went for a 2008/2009 1.9 or 1.4 unit would that have DPF?

No DPF on the 1.9tdi or the 3 cylinder 1.4 tdi, however the greenline diesel I think has DPF so if you get 2008/2009 model you should be fine , they will be better for the low mileage folks, even though I have both the 1.4tdi and the new crtdi DPF 1.6 diesel, I will be a low miler just give it the beans every now and then ;)

Hi Jimbof, I would not worry about the DPF as this technology is proven to be reliable, it's far from new. Initial fears about DPF's from a few years ago have proven unfounded. If you are going to be doing 30k per year then a DPF definitely won't give any problems. Even my sisters 1.6cr has the DPF and she doesn't do many miles per year, short trips etc and she has never had any problems with the DPF or even had the DPF dash warning light come on to tell her to go for a 'burn'. Buy with confidence.

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Hi Jimbof, I would not worry about the DPF as this technology is proven to be reliable, it's far from new. Initial fears about DPF's from a few years ago have proven unfounded. If you are going to be doing 30k per year then a DPF definitely won't give any problems. Even my sisters 1.6cr has the DPF and she doesn't do many miles per year, short trips etc and she has never had any problems with the DPF or even had the DPF dash warning light come on to tell her to go for a 'burn'. Buy with confidence.

That is what I thought when I bought my father's Pug 307 with 80K motorway miles on it... £800 later...! :)

There is a whole industry cropping up in back-street DPF removals and engine remaps to cope so I guess it isn't quite that simple.

Yeah...but there are different types of DPF. Skoda's sytem seems to be the best. I know several people with the Ford coated type that have had problems. But in the main they are all reliable. I wonder why the pug had a problem...there is normally a reason for a premature failure. Usually use of the wrong oil or engine additive. Or the car had an engine problem that went undetected?

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Yeah...but there are different types of DPF. Skoda's sytem seems to be the best. I know several people with the Ford coated type that have had problems. But in the main they are all reliable. I wonder why the pug had a problem...there is normally a reason for a premature failure. Usually use of the wrong oil or engine additive. Or the car had an engine problem that went undetected?

Quite possible - even after replacement the oil level was rising... (ie being diluted, probably with diesel). I got shot pretty quick and said to myself never a DPF again, but I really like the idea of the Greenline II.

Glad to hear opinion is that the VAG version of DPF is a good system. The Peugeot one seemed crazily complex - sensors in the fuel flap to detect opening so that it could add the ridiculously expensive additive to the fuel, the rear heated window turning on during regen to add extra load on the engine, crazy stuff). Seems modern diesels are getting ever more complex.

Quite possible - even after replacement the oil level was rising... (ie being diluted, probably with diesel). I got shot pretty quick and said to myself never a DPF again, but I really like the idea of the Greenline II.

Glad to hear opinion is that the VAG version of DPF is a good system. The Peugeot one seemed crazily complex - sensors in the fuel flap to detect opening so that it could add the ridiculously expensive additive to the fuel, the rear heated window turning on during regen to add extra load on the engine, crazy stuff). Seems modern diesels are getting ever more complex.

DPF regen on my Greenline 1 1.4TDI (3 pot) is a non event. Just looks after itself and the mpg is fabulous. Cant say what the longevity of the dpf will be like but so far 34000 miles and no warning light...ever. No oil dilution at all. The regen on the Fabia is simple, just some extra fueling for 5 mins and its done. They say the DPF lasts the life of the car.......we will see. I hope to clock this engine....twice !!

Had a run from Chichester to Colchester all motorway pretty much. 72 mpg! Thats 75 all the way and on the limits elsewhere. It actually read 76 mpg but mine over reads by 4.

I only have a diesel because of the miles I do. Its also good to have 650 mile range to reserve. There are other good diesels now. The new Kia diesel looks promising.

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DPF regen on my Greenline 1 1.4TDI (3 pot) is a non event. Just looks after itself and the mpg is fabulous. Cant say what the longevity of the dpf will be like but so far 34000 miles and no warning light...ever. No oil dilution at all. The regen on the Fabia is simple, just some extra fueling for 5 mins and its done. They say the DPF lasts the life of the car.......we will see. I hope to clock this engine....twice !!

Had a run from Chichester to Colchester all motorway pretty much. 72 mpg! Thats 75 all the way and on the limits elsewhere. It actually read 76 mpg but mine over reads by 4.

I only have a diesel because of the miles I do. Its also good to have 650 mile range to reserve. There are other good diesels now. The new Kia diesel looks promising.

All sounds very promising. It seems the Skoda DPF's don't use a magic syrum like the Peugeots, and just rely on a little extra fuel to increase the temp? From what I can read many of the failures in the Peugeot systems are due to the magic serum failing / getting empty and the DPF not regenerating as a result. Sounds like a much much simpler system.

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