I've treated my '07 Octavia to a Columbus unit and a new CAN Gateway today (7N0 907 530 C from 1K0 907 530 K), cleared all fault codes and run a new scan. The results are below my questions.

First off, why does the new CAN only have Bytes 0-2 active? Anything from 3 onwards is blank? Have I missed a trick?

Should I have 37 - Navigation and 56 - Radio ticked in the CAN Gateway instalation list? I read somewhere that you needed to have one or the other,but not both! I have 56 - Radio unticked, but it still shows up on the 'Select Control Module' window.

I understand the 008212 - Antenna 2 problem (I don't have two radio antennas as yet), but 00856 - Radio Antenna (according the Ross Tech Wiki) suggests a 'short to ground'!

Would this fit with my hearing a 'clicking' noise from the speakers (sounds like a static click) when VCDS queries 37 – Navigation or 56 – Radio?

I've also noticed that lights on stock CD changer are always on (don’t know if that has changed, but can’t remember seeing that before).

I read on My-GTI.com about changing the wiring on pins 2 & 3 when changing from second generation to third generation head units. When I checked, I did not have anything on pin 2 only a wire on pin 3!

00862 is not on the Wiki so I have no idea why this is being flagged up.

Everything seems to work OK, but if there is an electrical problem I'd obviously like that to be solved along with the issues surronding the new CAN having very little for the long coding helper to go off.

Any suggestions or answer will be greatfully recieved.

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Saturday,08,October,2011,18:00:02:13904

VCDS Version: Release 10.6.5

Data version: 20110930

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Chassis Type: 7N0

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: TMB***1Z********* Mileage: 165790km/103017miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl

Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LD HW: 03G 906 021 LD

Component: R4 2,0L EDC 000SG 8514

Revision: --H06--- Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4110335

Coding: 0000072

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 6CDD3D443610

No fault code found.

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl

Part No: 1K0 907 379 P

Component: ASR FRONT MK70 0105

Coding: 0017025

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 3F87BA0817E6

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl

Part No: 1Z0 820 047 D

Component: Climatic PQ35 010 0301

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 346DE5242EA0

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl

Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE HW: 3C0 937 049 AE

Component: Bordnetz-SG H52 2002

Revision: 00H52000 Serial number: 00000004766802

Coding: 81880F211004140000110D000000000000087F075C0000

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 6CDD3D443610

Part No: 1Z2 955 119 C

Component: Wischer 090207 022 0601

Coding: 00055223

Shop #: WSC 73430

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T

Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300

Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD11NW3N

Coding: 0020788

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 3D7BC0001DEA

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC HW: 1K0 953 549 BC

Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070

Coding: 0000012

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 74ED25246E20

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl

Part No SW: 1Z0 920 912 D HW: 1Z0 920 912 D

Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1610

Revision: V1610056 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4110335

Coding: 0003401

Shop #: WSC 27012 576 175240

VCID: 3669DF2C38DC

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb

Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951

Component: J533 Gateway H37 0614

Revision: H37 Serial number: 191210F2000277

Coding: 352303

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 3065E934DAB8

1 Fault Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 1

Fault Frequency: 75

Mileage: 165781 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 13:33:12

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb

Part No SW: 1Z0 920 912 D HW: 1Z0 920 912 D

Component: IMMO VD1 1610

Revision: V1610056 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4110335

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 3669DF2C38DC

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb

Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 B HW: 3T0 035 680 A

Component: RNS-MID H41 3804

Revision: AB001001 Serial number: SKZ6Z7Z5703265

Coding: 02000400040000200000

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------

VCID: 2F67EA48C786

4 Faults Found:

00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)

011 - Open Circuit

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101011

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 10

Reset counter: 1

Mileage: 165776 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 13:54:31

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 8

Reset counter: 1

Mileage: 165776 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 13:54:34

00856 - Radio Antenna

011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00101011

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 40

Mileage: 165776 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 15:56:47

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)

011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 2

Reset counter: 41

Mileage: 165781 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 14:35:04

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl

Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D HW: 1T0 959 701 D

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0954

Coding: 0000756

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 3875D11432C8

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb

Part No: 1K2 909 144 L

Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806

Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108

VCID: 356BD82025DA

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb

Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT

Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0203

Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000

Coding: 81801A085283007F3F04850540085F96907CA0

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 830FF6F8BB8E

Part No: 1Z0 951 171

Component: Innenraumueberw.008 4801

Coding: 00000000

Shop #: WSC 73430

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C

Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Component: NGS n.mounted

1 Fault Found:

02483 - Module for Locking of Rear Lid (F327)

012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00101100

Fault Priority: 4

Fault Frequency: 2

Reset counter: 40

Time Indication: 0

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl

Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D HW: 1T0 959 702 D

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0954

Coding: 0000756

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 3973D41009C2

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb

Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 B HW: 3T0 035 680 A

Component: RNS-MID H41 3804

Revision: AB001001 Serial number: SKZ6Z7Z5703265

Coding: 02000400040000200000

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------

VCID: 2F67EA48C786

4 Faults Found:

00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)

011 - Open Circuit

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101011

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 10

Reset counter: 1

Mileage: 165776 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 13:54:31

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 8

Reset counter: 1

Mileage: 165776 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 13:54:34

00856 - Radio Antenna

011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00101011

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 40

Mileage: 165776 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 15:56:47

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)

011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 2

Reset counter: 41

Mileage: 165781 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 14:35:04

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J HW: 1K0 959 703 J

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0907

Coding: 0000144

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544

VCID: 3777D2283FD6

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J HW: 1K0 959 704 J

Component: Tuer-SG 005 0907

Coding: 0000144

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544

VCID: 3875D11432C8

No fault code found.

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Hi

You need to have both 37 navigation and Radio 56 ticked

that will sort out the gateway incorrectly coded

The Columbus faults have nothing to do with the gateway swop

The antenna requirements are different on the sat nav to the standard radio

Check the coding on the columbus

is your GPS signal good?

Ed

GPS Signal was pretty good today.

I took a drive with the Columbus showing how many satellites were detected and how many were being used (not the right terminology) and generally it was showing 10 or 12 as being available and between 6 and 10 actually being used, so to speak.

I'll tick 56 as well, clear fault codes and see what happens. I think it was on a VW forum that I read about ticking one or the other, but not both.

Should there be more Bytes 0, 1 & 2 available on the new CAN? It seems a backwards step in that respect as there were 0-7 on the old one. When I select 19 - CAN Gateway, it flags up a warning message in red on Byte 0:

"Only Limited Coding Information is available on this Control Module.

If you happen to need additional Details please contact Support at Ross-Tech.com

Coding is normally done using the Factory and Software-Version-Management (SVM)."

What does this mean?

GPS Signal was pretty good today.

I took a drive with the Columbus showing how many satellites were detected and how many were being used (not the right terminology) and generally it was showing 10 or 12 as being available and between 6 and 10 actually being used, so to speak.

I'll tick 56 as well, clear fault codes and see what happens. I think it was on a VW forum that I read about ticking one or the other, but not both.

Should there be more Bytes 0, 1 & 2 available on the new CAN? It seems a backwards step in that respect as there were 0-7 on the old one. When I select 19 - CAN Gateway, it flags up a warning message in red on Byte 0:

"Only Limited Coding Information is available on this Control Module.

If you happen to need additional Details please contact Support at Ross-Tech.com

Coding is normally done using the Factory and Software-Version-Management (SVM)."

What does this mean?

It might seam backward, On older ones you had 2 options on how to code a gateway, either use the installation list or long coding.

with so many different options on newer cars the bytes would have increased. don't worry about the message, the only things of importance in the long coding are RHD, vehicle type and number of doors.

The faults on the columbus are not that major, providing everything is working

DTC 00856 and DTC 00862 are intermittent, most likely already taken care of and remainders from the installation/retrofit.

DTC 00821 Check the Special Notes about the 2nd Atenna!

DTC 01042 Check the Special Notes about using a proper WSC!

The Gateway Coding itself is correct, the Installation List is not. In fact the Auto-Scan shows just that.

56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011

Did you check out our RNS510 Retrofitting Page?

Ross-Tech WIKI: Navigation System (RNS510) Retrofitting

Edited 8 October, 201114 yr by Theresias

Eddie, you are a mine of info.

Just been and had another look and ticked 56 - radio as well... AND, I remembered to clear the DTC's this time (Doh! and apologies for stupidity).

The only ones that have come back are the two that relate to the aerial.

However, the Auto Scan diplay (the one that is active whist scanning) says that the CAN Gateway has no faults, but when the file is saved and then open it shows one fault! (Wish I could put screen dumps into threads so you could see what I mean).

Why the discrepancey?

And why the static clicks via the speakers when scanning the stereo?

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb

Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951

Component: J533 Gateway H37 0614

Revision: H37 Serial number: 191210F2000277

Coding: 352303

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 3065E934DAB8

1 Fault Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 1

Fault Frequency: 75

Mileage: 165781 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 13:33:12

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Just looked up DTC 01044 of Ross Tech Wiki and a thought came to mind.

When I was ticking boxes in the Installation List on the CAN Gateway, there was no contoller 00-Steering angle sensor, but the sensor had moved to 04-Steering angle sensor (so I ticked that one).

Was that a mistake on my part as well?

Edited 8 October, 201114 yr by KBPhoto

No, older modules had the sensor listed as 00, newer ones as 04. No problem there, your change was good. If you remain having troubles after the above suggestions please post a fresh Auto-Scan.

Just looked up DTC 01044 of Ross Tech Wiki and a thought came to mind.

When I was ticking boxes in the Installation List on the CAN Gateway, there was no contoller 00-Steering angle sensor, but the sensor had moved to 04-Steering angle sensor (so I ticked that one).

Was that a mistake on my part as well?

just double check the whole of the installation list, when I have done some I have forgot one item or ticked one by mistake

I had an open circuit fault after fitting my RNS510 and solved it with one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FAKRA-Antenne-RadioADAPTER-RCD510-RNS510-Diversity-RNS-/180662955007

Theresias: Thank you for pointing me back at the relevant articles - I had read them, but had ignored the parts about WCS's. Cleared all fault codes first thing, entered a WSC on 37 - Navigation and everything seems to be fine.

Still have the 00821 fault code on 37 - Navigation and on 56 - Radio which is to be expected considering I only have one aerial.

Eddie-NL: Double checked the list and all was correct. Will either get one of the adapters you pointed me to or fit a second aerial under the front dash using a switched live from the fusebox.

Still not sure about the discrepancy between the scan display and the one that shows when you got o save / print it...

It seems as though VCDS was opening a 'older' version of the log file to show me until I saved them with a different name. Then it brought up one that matched the scan data.

All seems well and good - No battery drain - Understandable fault codes - Columbus working fine.

All I need now is for the seller to send me some maps of Western Europe rather than Eastern Europe and I'll be off...