See my previous post on this subject

Very good news. - spoke to Tesco directly and they even gave me the telephone number of their petrol station manager- they confirm that they can see the business case in favour of selling momentum at their Whitehaven store - they have confirmed that their whitehaven store will be putting in a request to be supplied with momentum but cannot tell me the timetable yet.

Won't count my chickens but but keeping fingers crossed.

Next task is to pester the hell out of shell and get them to open or buy an outlet in the Whitehaven area that will sell V power!!!

I take it you are joking,

they are just selling an image and fuel at a over the odds in price, its not going to reduce the price at Tesco is it?

george

Want the occasional tank of v power for the extras that shell put in such as cleaning detergents. No I am not joking.

To be fair, I don't think it'll ever happen and I can't understand the whole fight for 'premium' fuel. I just fill up at any station and the car goes, simples.

The post wasn't really aimed at 2.2 litre diesel cars!!! I am sure you don't really need to worry what diesel you put in your car as I don't with the family wagon, but a Fabia vrs mk2 is a very different animal.

Not that sure a Twincharger needs detergents or is that much of an animal.

Do you only travel in an area of a few miles.

If you start getting your 99ron at Tesco,

can you not get your Detergent additive fuel when out and about?

A vRS will run fine on 95 ron between trips when you want a wee blast and want the higher Octane.

george

PS

2x 10 litre containers are good for 100 miles, even when playing.

Yes you are right. I can always arrange to have an empty tank when near Carlisle or heading to motorway at Penrith - but still seems worth asking Shell what their plans are for whitehaven area.

Can't help but think that a good italian tune up will do more good than bimbling around with some "extra" additives beyond what the BS spec requires.

Can't help but think that a good italian tune up will do more good than bimbling around with some "extra" additives beyond what the BS spec requires.

Surely the normal additives are just fine, otherwise cars would be failing left right and centre?

Additives really do not come into it.

The engine has a recommended fuel from the manufacturer of 98 ron and a minimum 95 ron.

They run fine on 95 ron, but some might notice its a bit rougher starting cold on 95 ron,

& if being used hard that it benefits from 98 or 99 ron or even 102 ron when in Mainland Europe.

Its up to the driver if they notice improved economy when on longer runs,

but you will hardly notice a difference on short and not warmed up drives where its likely to be 25-35 mpg on 95 ron or 98/99 ron.

george

Surely the normal additives are just fine, otherwise cars would be failing left right and centre?

Any car sold in the UK has to function on either :

- BS EN 590 for diesels

- BS EN 228 for petrol cars.

When using this fuel, if the car developed problems as it couldn't cope with the fuel, then that car is not fit for purpose in the UK.

I guess you could argue that you were informed that the car ran better on BS EN 7800, although it will still run on BS EN 228.

Either way, if the car gummed up running on normal compliant unleaded, you'd likely have a case for rejecting the car.

Either way, no matter what additive package you add, it isn't going to make a car bimbling around town in traffic any cleaner than one running on spec compliant fuel that gets regular suitable applications of the loud pedal to get things flowing.

Not denying that some higher performance engines will run better on super unleaded, but they can retard to run on normal stuff too.

Edited 3 June, 201313 yr by cheezemonkhai

'Gummed up',

is that still a technical or scientific term in the Motor Vehicle Engineering Industry, or are we just going back a few decades.

Off to do a 'De-coke' now.

Then Grind in some valve seats.

george

A vRS will run fine on 95 ron

Not according to my ex dealer... Apparently the reason for my spark plugs burning out was the 95 ron fuel...

'Gummed up',

is that a technical or scientific term in the Motor Vehicle Engineering Industry, or are we just going back a few decades.

Off to do a 'De-coke' now.

Then Grind in some valve seats.

george

It's an off the cuff expression for not being right.

As for a decoke, you'd be surprised how many direct injection engines need that doing these days.

For example the valves and intake getting coked up is down to fuel not washing over them due to the direct injection.

No amount of additive package is going to fix that.

Anyway not trying to get into an argument, just saying don't believe everything a marketing department tells you.

Edited 3 June, 201313 yr by cheezemonkhai

Evil,

That was between you and them.

They told you total sharn and chose to believe it.

cheezemonkhai,

can we take it you are a mechanic then and see many of these engines?

george

Maybe best stick here with Twinchargers and known and continuing Manufacturing and faulty parts,

Thats Engines built by VAG and in VAG vehicles.

and owners trying to avoid problems on engines known for having problems.

Many run without any, and some have been rebuilt or replaced, and run fine, on 95 or 98/99 ron.

I want 98 Ron or better - simple as that - so that the ecu doesn't deprive me of too many horses

The rest of the argument is not really that important

I just use what's recommended, which is 98 RON...

Anyone else sick of seeing that Revo picture in almost every vRS thread?

Maybe dont look then.

You have to click it to see.

And you know what it is.

It points out easily the known and continuing problems to those not aware of them.

Time that they were out there before the first cars with faulty engines are out of the Manufacturers Warranty in the UK,

Skoda/VAG appear to still give customers the run around when they have problems..

& maybe importantly here to this thread,

people are told untruthfullly at Skoda Dealerships that the problem is from running it on 95 ron.

Often it can be from those that use the car like it can be,

but as well when some tune or up the power, change plugs, do not know the gap that should be etc.

As standard they run on 95 ron and should not burn off the tips of the correct spark plugs.

george

Thanks for the revo thread as I am new to a VAG 1.4 Tsi and new to the forum

But there's no need to go on and on and on about it. Time for my break I think. The Fabia II section really is bad for your health...

But this is not the fabia II section and when there the trials and tribulations continue for many owners.

Its easy for those with no bother to get sick to the teeth of hearing about it.

Or in some cases, not want publicity because its killing their possible value when selling their MK2 vRS.

If Skoda where more open on the problems and causes, then Dealers might be less likely to try and pull the wool over owners eyes and get on with doing the fixes required.

Having some customers paying for Failed Spark Plugs replacement and telling them that using 95 ron fuel is the reason for the plugs, valves, coils or even piston ring failure is just ridiculous.

http://www.briskoda....ue-well-hope-so

george