Why combi trunk lenght is only 1,050 vs hatch 1,084. Where is this extra space used in combi? I already have ordered combi :(

 

Hatch

 

 

Combi

Edited 23 July, 201313 yr by marxveix

as stated in another thread this is down to that particular estate having the variable floor so the boot isnt as deep and if you look at the image the measurement of the estate is taken from a higher point than that of the hatch so due to the angle of the seat the length is shortened but in reality the boots are actually the same length if you take the variable boot floor out of the equation.

as stated in another thread this is down to that particular estate having the variable floor so the boot isnt as deep and if you look at the image the measurement of the estate is taken from a higher point than that of the hatch so due to the angle of the seat the length is shortened but in reality the boots are actually the same length if you take the variable boot floor out of the equation.

 

Info that i needed, thank you.

Let's not create legends. There is absolutely no grounds to claim that the estate they measured had variable floor. Person in the other thread was just throwing ideas up in the air. In fact this time around the poster used estonian Skoda pictures, speculation about variable boot has no precedence at this point. All recent Skoda estates are slightly shorter inside than hatchbacks, that's the case for last Superb, the new/facelifted Superb and apprarently also Rapid.

Edited 23 July, 201313 yr by v0n

Let's not create legends. There is absolutely no grounds to claim that the estate they measured had variable floor. Person in the other thread was just throwing ideas up in the air. In fact this time around the poster used estonian Skoda pictures, speculation about variable boot has no precedence at this point. All recent Skoda estates are slightly shorter inside than hatchbacks, that's the case for last Superb, the new/facelifted Superb and apprarently also Rapid.

ofcourse there are grounds to claim a variable floor, was the image not of an elegance model? which has the variable floor as standard.

also the arrows in the image clearly show the measurement of the estate to be taken higher than that of the hatch.

the cars are exactly the same length so height is the only variable here.

was the image not of an elegance model?

No. It wasn't.

It's a stock pic with dimensions used on websites and leaflets in all countries. Why would they use measurements of particular model with UK extras for it?

Let's not create legends. There is absolutely no grounds to claim that the estate they measured had variable floor. Person in the other thread was just throwing ideas up in the air. In fact this time around the poster used estonian Skoda pictures, speculation about variable boot has no precedence at this point. All recent Skoda estates are slightly shorter inside than hatchbacks, that's the case for last Superb, the new/facelifted Superb and apprarently also Rapid.

Then the mystery remains - how is there less boot length in the estate when the vehicles are the same overall length? As I said in the other thread, someone could do with popping round to their local dealership with a tape measure.

v0n you really like to create arguments, don't you? And see conspiracies from Skoda UK everywhere. It's obvious from the wheels at least that it's not a bone stock base spec car. You can't have 18" wheels on the base spec.

 

You only have to look at the pictures to see the height of the measurement is not the same. It's obvious that from an inclined surface the distance will get shorter the higher up you go, basic geometry. Try and measure the distance from the top of the back seats in the hatch and tell me if you also get 1,080mm.

 

To the OP, are you really concerned about a difference of 34mm (real or not)?

v0n you really like to create arguments, don't you? And see conspiracies from Skoda UK everywhere.

From my perspective it's the other way round. It's a simple drawing, provided for all of the countries. It's not meant to be super precise, positioning of the arrows is quite irrelevant, its purpose is to provide us with indisputable numbers, indicating that there is a small difference in size between two models. It confirms one of the first things I've heard about O3 from a Skoda dealer - "boot in estate is few cm shorter, it's the same in Superb range, hatch has longer boot by a fraction". To me it's quite clear that's the design across all the Skoda cars in the last few years. I can speculate whether it's because estate floor had to be risen slightly for extra options, or maybe lip/closing mechanism had to be positioned differently, but I don't dispute the numbers on the picture or try to create an impression that they can't be right.

Some of you guys do. You look at the published numbers and you just have to have some sort of conspiracy - "the arrows in the drawing of Estate are higher, I can tell from seeing quite a few drawings with arrows in my time", "it's a variable floor, because the drawing shows Elegance option", "it's not a bone stock because it has 18 inch alloys in the drawing". It's a drawing. It's not supposed to be photographically accurate and represent alloy models. Variable floor might be included in UK spec estate, but it's not in other countries. Considering it's a £110 option on Elegance in most of the Eastern and Central European countries, I'm willing to bet it's a pay option on Elegance in Romania. But your catalogue will have the same dimensions drawing. So why would they be drawing dimensions of UK spec Estate vs patagonian Greenline Hatchback, or whatever we think the model drawing is?

Edited 24 July, 201313 yr by v0n

So the boot length is shorter by 34mm in the estate than the hatch (real assertion or not). If you have the estate, this reduces your quality of life in owning the car how? Especially since it's official and put into plain view by the manufacturer (so you know before you buy).

Someone get a tape measure out for goodness sakes!

So the boot length is shorter by 34mm in the estate than the hatch (real assertion or not). If you have the estate, this reduces your quality of life in owning the car how?

I don't think OP posted the question thinking that ownership of a 3cm shorter estate would impact quality of his life in any way. However, since Estate costs more (£800-1000, is it?) which could be spent somewhere else if you want "more" space (whole 3cm of it) and don't need square pillar line, the question is valid and good one to ask.

Of course in some countries, UK included, this choice won't be as easy as judging the car by it's boot, as some major options (multilink rear suspension for example) in O3 line up will only be available in specific engine versions and some engines might only be available in Estate format?

but estate one has 20 l more storage 

The two measurements are clearly not comparable because they're taken in different places on the two vehicles and it's not even clear what they're meant to show. Sure, they go from the seat back but to where? The estate measurement seems to line up with the edge of the light cluster! What's the point of that?

Sarge.

Someone get a tape measure out for goodness sakes!

I've got a tape measure now all I need is the estate :p

typed with one chubby finger

I would suggest the "hole" is a different shape..  If the Estate has a lower loading lip and the hatch has a recess below the loading lip, the longest measurement will be longer on the hatch.  Doesn't mean it's smaller or bigger.  Estate might have a narrower opening, but more "square"?  I haven't seen either in the flesh or even gone round with a tape measure.

 

If it says the Estate has more capacity, it has.  If the difference in length is that critical, I'd suggest you either test on "in the flesh" or think about a Superb Estate?

I've just measured boot in the demo hatchback I got this morning while my FL estate is in the service and there is a surprise.

In a basic setup, on the base floor level, usable length between the step/mount at the bottom of a rear seat partition in the boot to the plastic trim at the bottom of the boot lip is exactly 1084mm in the centre of boot lip curvature.

But, if you have a plastic tray in the boot like the demo car i got has, despite angle of the seat, it overcomes all the "steps" of the trim mounts at the bottom of the partition and bottom of the lip. At that point, any flatpack/object put on top of the plastic tray (it's quite sturdy) in the centre of the boot can be as long as 1105mm. In other words, if there was a risen/false floor option for hatchback, usable space would be approx 2cm longer than claimed value and 5cm longer than claimed value for estate. All we need now is someone with estate to pull out a measuring tape and spend 30 seconds in the boot with their mobile phone.

This is without a doubt one of the geekiest things I've ever done.

I bet the people at the dealership were giving you the weirdo look.

I wouldn't worry about 30mm when the boots are that big!

I wouldn't worry about 30mm when the boots are that big!

 

It's not really the size anymore, it's solving the puzzle

I bet the people at the dealership were giving you the weirdo look.

      

 

Maybe they should provide laser measurements since 30mm is a problem.

Sad but true, trunk lenght for octavia combi is 1050 and for hatch 1084 (i have measured them both). Combi was without variable floor.

Edited 5 August, 201313 yr by marxveix

I was also inside the back of a hatch and combi yesterday that the dealer had placed side by side for me. Although length is slightly less in the combi, it's only because the trim in the hatch is curved across the opening, meaning you get a few CM extra, but towards the side it's nearer the same.

Also, I measured height from surface of boot to parcel shelf in both cars, estate had about 5cm extra in all areas of the boot. Even more (a lot more) as you measure nearer the back of the cars.

Overall, the combi has more space by volume with parcel shelves in place. Remove shelves and it obviously has more again.

Only 20 litres volume difference though. Look at the 4.5 gallon jerry can, that's what £800-1000 price difference buys you in Estate. 4.5 gallons of mostly unusable space.

 

It's a bit of a puzzle. Octavia 3 Hatch has biggest usable boot in Skoda range, in terms of size, not volume of styrofoam beads . It's bigger and longer even than Superb Estate. But because of this weird design pattern over the last several cars, where Estate is disadvantaged by few cm, it basically means we are buying Skoda Estate cars at around grand premium purely because of looks?     

20litres, whatever, it's the difference between my bike going in upright or laying on its side

 

I ordered an estate after carefully weighing up the advantages of the boot design and size, it's a much more usable size for me.