hey everyone, hope everyone is well and having a good weekend unlike the weather, I'm still a newbie and especially to car/tsi cars. I have done some reading on here and browsing. I just have a couple causes of concern as I'm the paranoid type lol.

 

1st cause for concern is during cold starts, I start the car and after approx 30 secs a shudder/judder starts almost as if the engine is rocking or running rough, but the revs are perfectly fine and no fluctuations. (I had this on my 2008 1.9 tdi pd130 ibiza, i think its the same as the mk1 fabia tdi vrs) This goes away once warmed up everytime.

 

2nd cause for concern is i think rear brake related, (I use to get something similar with my merc 190e, which was also auto)

When I reverse out of my drive then apply the brake and shift to drive the car holds itself, but I get the slight bite(like when you find the biting point on a manual) and you get the noise like when you have surface rust built up on the brakes but really heavy/prominent.

 

The car doesn't get used everyday, which is why I know Its probably the reason for the noise when applying the brakes, but the sticking of the brakes i dont understand its a newish car with only 4.5k-5k on the clocks. Today also as i braked and turned the wheel to pull into the drive just as i almost came to a complete stop as although I have a dropped curb, there is a abit of a bump I heard a clunk like when the disc becomes free from the brakes/calipers.

 

Other than these 2 things the car is a unmolested and absolute dream to drive and the dsg box is truely seamless unlike my 08 jetta tdi dsg which even had the megatronics unit changed under my extended warranty with just 24k on clocks from new.

 

sorry if ive written to much but im no mechanic and tried to be as descriptive as possible, thanks and any input/help would be great and much appreciated.

 

bav 

The thing that feels like rust on the discs usually is rust on the Discs which builds up after a few days.

Have you looked at them and are they rusty?

 

Do you run it on 98 or 99 ron fuel or 95 ron.   *98 RON is the recommended fuel to run it on.*

Get the Dealer to do a diagnostic on the Engine and see why it starts and runs rough,

it really shoudnt.

 

Has it had its first 12 month Service yet?

 

george

The rough running from cold is normal too

Only normal on ones that run rough from cold.

That will be a minority, because the majority do not.  

A petrol engine that feels like their diesel used to is a bad thing.

 

'They all do that Sir, it is a characteristic.'    Only it is not, it would be unacceptable to most if it did.

 

george

hey guys thanks for the input, i bought the car from a local scooby main dealer as it was taken in for part ex and to be honest I was well and truely astonished with the condition even the bobbles on the tyres are still present lol.

 

its had a oil/filter change, I rang up trans city skoda in walthamstow as I think that and the other nearest one is in forest gate (both east london) I spoke to the service department at walthamstow. I called up when i bought the car after a week as reading about it and then actually listening/owning it is different, I asked how these tsi's idle and from what I told the lady.

 

she mentioned they can be like that and if it goes away once warmed up then it seems fine as she specifically asked me twice if it ran ok when warm, then she said if it gets worse or if im worried then get it booked in (as i told her about my paranoia about everything lol). also she asked about the mileage and service record and I told her that its had oil/filter change and that its fine till next year. also she was kind enough to take the reg and check if any updates were due/available and she said everything is ok. 

 

Regarding the surface rust, yes there is a light coverage on the rears but could this be the reason for the sticking/where the car stays still briefly when the brake pedal is let off, as the gearbox in my honest opinion is swwet as a nut. i cant fault it at all, when cold you get a little hickup but nothing like the jerk you use to get in low gears in my jetta.

Maybe when moving off forwards try the Hand Brake on a little to clear the rear discs quickly of light surface corrosion..

Just a little ticky on. & just for a few yards when not going very fast.

You will get the hand brake on warning, but once done you can use the brakes to clean the front discs just as you drive.

Be aware when moving off that from stop and foot on the brake, there is Hill Hold Control possibly acting on the DSG & brakes and a cold gearbox.

The HHC may or may not engage depending on how you maneuver, press the pedal, like when on a slopping driveway or road, as you first start up and set off.

 

The first Lady on a Service DesK when i booked in a vRS, who has worked in the same Skoda Dealership for years told me i was mistaken and my car was a Diesel & that the vRS did not come with Automatic Gearboxes, and that was after putting in the Registration Number and being shown the Service Book and the receipt from the First Service, done by their workshop..

 

Did you ask the Lady is she drove any vRS's, or if this was just the usual Service Desk answer.

It is great that they are right when warmed up.

If you could just look up the Computer and see if the car needed a 'ECU Update' or there were any Fault Codes showing,

then there would be no need for the Technician to check on the cars ECU, this is now done at the first Service, before it was not done till the second service.

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/service-and-maintenance/national-pricing/servicing

 

Anything like a feeling of a rough start is how someone feels or accepts something as normal.

If you are happy with the answer of that being normal, then it can not be that bad.

 

Are you running the car on 98 RON petrol,

if not maybe try it, the previous owner/driver maybe did not.

 

Have fun with it.

 

george

The rough running from cold is normal too

+1 to this,

 

Mine does this (never ever ever coming close to sounding like a Diesel, that would be baaad) when cold and I wouldn't call it rough either but if you pay attention their is a little more vibration that seems to hum in and out, I'm not concerned by it but it is something you notice as being different to the warm idle which is very smooth and hushed.

 

What I do find odd is that the judder/vibration comes in after 30 seconds on yours, mine is there from ignition on and fades very quickly.

Mine does the cold rough running too at times. Sounds similar to misfiring? These engines often run rich I believe.

No oil issues tho touch would and the car sounds fine once warmed up a little.

i have the brake noise you mention, nothing to do with surface rust on mine as this can happen after 20 miles ( my run to work which has a hell of a lot of stopping) and ive had them skimmed which is the only suggestion my dealer had, made zero difference and cost me a few quid :(

i also have the odd clunk on holding the brakes, mechanic heard this but had no idea what it could be

you would think that after 3 years of this car being out all the dealers would have a good understanding of the faults yet we keep hearing of people having a NEW fault which they have no idea about, seems odd. i can understand when a car is new but its been out a while now and most issues should have surfaced by this time and have a solution

There are things to be aware of as a car gets started. Summer, Autumn & now colder weather in some places.

 

The OP says 'Cold Start',  so i imagine unless the weather is already cold where he is, that is a Normal Start in weather around 6*oC - 16*0C unless winter has set in.

 

You might stop and have parked the car with some setting or other n the Heating, A/C on Auto, or Off or On.

(Below a certain Ambient temp the A/C wil not come on anyway.)

 

So a normal get in the car, start and then drive off or reverse out.

Reversing out or selecting reverse the Cabin Fan goes faster maybe, closes the Air Intake as you reverse to stop you getting fumes.

So that surprises some.

Then the discs front and rear might have some grinding with a little surface rust.

You might have the brake pedal held on and activate HHC, on cold Pads and Discs and feel that release.

The Rear pads might be sticky if the Hand Brake was left pulled on, maybe when cold weather, or after a fast run and pulled on and left on hot discs.

If it is a Winter/Cold weather reverse, the pads might be sticky to the discs.

 

But basically yes the car can be different in different weathers as the engine fires up, Cold Weather, Warm Weather, Damp Weather, 

& different Octane Petrol, maybe feel rougher on starting on 95 RON.

 

Ambient temps around 8 degrees and above its a Cold Start and first start of the day,  not really Cold Weather start and ages to run smooth or going to take ages for the Coolant to get to temp and the thermostat to open.

 

Some might just jump in and start the car, music on and drive and hear or feel nothing.

Personally i look at the dash lights go on and go off, look at the heater setting, the Mirrors and heated rear screen, put on if needed, use the wipers if needed, put it in reverse, reverse,  then drive forward, use the hand brake a bit to clear the rear discs of rust and then listen.

Same as with most vehicles, but more so with a vRS.

 

I parked my car 5 hours ago after a decent run and the surface rust is on the brakes now before the next drive,

there was Salt on the roads last night and -1oC when i parked. 8*oC outside now. (Sun spitting the pavement)

It will start with no odd noises if i go and start it now, but the brakes will be noisy for a few yards until the discs are clean.

 

george

Maybe when moving off forwards try the Hand Brake on a little to clear the rear discs quickly of light surface corrosion..

Just a little ticky on. & just for a few yards when not going very fast.

You will get the hand brake on warning, but once done you can use the brakes to clean the front discs just as you drive.

Be aware when moving off that from stop and foot on the brake, there is Hill Hold Control possibly acting on the DSG & brakes and a cold gearbox.

The HHC may or may not engage depending on how you maneuver, press the pedal, like when on a slopping driveway or road, as you first start up and set off.

 

The first Lady on a Service DesK when i booked in a vRS, who has worked in the same Skoda Dealership for years told me i was mistaken and my car was a Diesel & that the vRS did not come with Automatic Gearboxes, and that was after putting in the Registration Number and being shown the Service Book and the receipt from the First Service, done by their workshop..

 

Did you ask the Lady is she drove any vRS's, or if this was just the usual Service Desk answer.

It is great that they are right when warmed up.

If you could just look up the Computer and see if the car needed a 'ECU Update' or there were any Fault Codes showing,

then there would be no need for the Technician to check on the cars ECU, this is now done at the first Service, before it was not done till the second service.

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/service-and-maintenance/national-pricing/servicing

 

Anything like a feeling of a rough start is how someone feels or accepts something as normal.

If you are happy with the answer of that being normal, then it can not be that bad.

 

Are you running the car on 98 RON petrol,

if not maybe try it, the previous owner/driver maybe did not.

 

Have fun with it.

 

george

hi sorry for the late reply, joys of working nights takes a right toll on me and its minus 26-30 at work. ive only used the shell v power and couple times filled up bp ultimate but trying to stick with the shell stuff. the lady over the phone at the dealer took my reg and stated no updates are due/required.

There are things to be aware of as a car gets started. Summer, Autumn & now colder weather in some places.

 

The OP says 'Cold Start',  so i imagine unless the weather is already cold where he is, that is a Normal Start in weather around 6*oC - 16*0C unless winter has set in.

 

You might stop and have parked the car with some setting or other n the Heating, A/C on Auto, or Off or On.

(Below a certain Ambient temp the A/C wil not come on anyway.)

 

So a normal get in the car, start and then drive off or reverse out.

Reversing out or selecting reverse the Cabin Fan goes faster maybe, closes the Air Intake as you reverse to stop you getting fumes.

So that surprises some.

Then the discs front and rear might have some grinding with a little surface rust.

You might have the brake pedal held on and activate HHC, on cold Pads and Discs and feel that release.

The Rear pads might be sticky if the Hand Brake was left pulled on, maybe when cold weather, or after a fast run and pulled on and left on hot discs.

If it is a Winter/Cold weather reverse, the pads might be sticky to the discs.

 

But basically yes the car can be different in different weathers as the engine fires up, Cold Weather, Warm Weather, Damp Weather, 

& different Octane Petrol, maybe feel rougher on starting on 95 RON.

 

Ambient temps around 8 degrees and above its a Cold Start and first start of the day,  not really Cold Weather start and ages to run smooth or going to take ages for the Coolant to get to temp and the thermostat to open.

 

Some might just jump in and start the car, music on and drive and hear or feel nothing.

Personally i look at the dash lights go on and go off, look at the heater setting, the Mirrors and heated rear screen, put on if needed, use the wipers if needed, put it in reverse, reverse,  then drive forward, use the hand brake a bit to clear the rear discs of rust and then listen.

Same as with most vehicles, but more so with a vRS.

 

I parked my car 5 hours ago after a decent run and the surface rust is on the brakes now before the next drive,

there was Salt on the roads last night and -1oC when i parked. 8*oC outside now. (Sun spitting the pavement)

It will start with no odd noises if i go and start it now, but the brakes will be noisy for a few yards until the discs are clean.

 

george

im a total paranoia freak when it comes to cars, even the slightest of noises and the way I  turn on and off my cars. I always have everything off when I start up, a/c, radio etc.

I just turn the music up !

sorry for the late reply on this, been all over the place with my night shifts, i read on here somewhere where you could pull the handbrake 1 click at an low speed/trickling along. Its worked an absolute treat with the brakes and no more of that sticking or noise. engine on cold start is still there but ive noticed it goes when you shift into drive/reverse when cold. 

 

Does this mean that something is being regulated or anything mechanically on cold starts???  got a bargain for a top up bottle of oil from trans city skoda a touch over £5er (cant remember its the silver/platinum quantum stuff)