Dear All,

This would be my first post to the forum, however unfortunately it would be about a problem i'm facing in my car.

I've a 2009 Octavia (Laura in India) mk2 facelift, 1.8 Tsi, 54000 km run.

Whenever i drive pedal to metal, the engine the revs freely, but the speed isn't so high.

For eg: In 3rd gear, the RPM is at 4000+ but the speed is just 70-80 km/hr. So on and so forth.

It doesn't behave as a turbo petrol.

What might be the reason?. Is it

1. Clutch issue ( however, the clutch is smooth, no hardness) ?

2. Blown turbo or any turbo pipe leakage ?

There is no error sign shown in the Display.

Please advice.

Thanks

Clutch slipping???

If the engine revs increase and the road speed stays the same then this would indicate that the clutch is slipping.

Must be the clutch from what you discribe.

Clutch slipping???

 

 

If the engine revs increase and the road speed stays the same then this would indicate that the clutch is slipping.

 

 

Must be the clutch from what you discribe.

 

Thank you very much for your response.

Sometimes, on very low speeds, the car stalls due to not enough clutch.

- Is this clutch slipping?

- In case, there is a clutch slippage, do I need to change the whole clutch or just overhaul it?

 

I've never driven a TSI before, the car dosent have initial heavy pick-up under lower RPMs but later on once it gains enough momentum it goes pretty fast.

May be I'm not able to describe it properly due to my in-experience in TSIs. I've only driven TDIs.

 

Thanks

Thank you very much for your response.

Sometimes, on very low speeds, the car stalls due to not enough clutch.

- Is this clutch slipping?

- In case, there is a clutch slippage, do I need to change the whole clutch or just overhaul it?

 

Hi, the stalling sounds like its due to the clutch dragging ie not releasing properly. So you could have quite a serious problem looming.

While it may be possible to get the friction plate relined in India, if the plate itself is not damaged. Its likely the pressure plate and dual mass flywheel may need attention as well. This is not something that would be done over here.

Replacement of the whole lot, including throwout bearing would be the only choice.

Once repaired, I would check that there is no problem with the clutch throwout bearing releasing properly. Also make sure no one using the car is "riding" the clutch, that is resting their foot on the pedal as they drive.

I have driven well over 2 million miles and only ever replaced 2 clutches, one recently in a dual mass like yours which wasn't worn but the flywheel was knackered.

4000 rpm and 80kmh/50mph??? -- why punish the car when there is OBVIOUSLY something seriously amiss? For that amount of clutch slip the clutch is either TOTALLY worn out or BURNT out and abusing the car to this degree will result in something going bang in a BIG way. Any competent driver would realise that to drive as you describe you are doing is sheer stupidity unless he has a lot of money for unnecessary repairs

 

Mike

 

Bit harsh! 4000rpm on a petrol is nothing. the redline is there as a visual gauge of dangerous prolonged engine revs, correct me if im wrong but he's well before this limit.

The engine has a limiter to prevent very dangerous revs. If the engine is warm oil up to temperature and car serviced etc and generally in good mechanical shape there should be no problem with 4000rpm. Typical comment from someone driving a car with an engine fit for a tractor :peek:

 

Back to the original question along with popular consensus I would say that the clutch is worn. Mine is starting to go as well and the heat makes the symptoms worse.

Although mine is a 2005 model so its not done bad to last this long.

Now I may be being a bit dumb here but surely if the OP has a badly slipping clutch then it will be revving to a lot more than 4000 rpm if he has his foot hard down.

 

Does the clutch smell like it is burning?

 

If you sit with the car at standstill in top gear and let the clutch out with the car at tickover, does it immediately stall? If so the clutch is OK. When you are driving along normally and put your foot down does the revs quickly rise without the speed rising? If so the clutch is faulty.

 

If what you are saying is that, even with your foot hard down, the car will not go faster than 80kph then I would be looking at the engine.

 

Ian

 

Thank you very much for your response.

Sometimes, on very low speeds, the car stalls due to not enough clutch.

- Is this clutch slipping?

- In case, there is a clutch slippage, do I need to change the whole clutch or just overhaul it?

 

Hi, the stalling sounds like its due to the clutch dragging ie not releasing properly. So you could have quite a serious problem looming.

While it may be possible to get the friction plate relined in India, if the plate itself is not damaged. Its likely the pressure plate and dual mass flywheel may need attention as well. This is not something that would be done over here.

Replacement of the whole lot, including throwout bearing would be the only choice.

Once repaired, I would check that there is no problem with the clutch throwout bearing releasing properly. Also make sure no one using the car is "riding" the clutch, that is resting their foot on the pedal as they drive.

I have driven well over 2 million miles and only ever replaced 2 clutches, one recently in a dual mass like yours which wasn't worn but the flywheel was knackered.

 

 

 

Thanks for your response, I will definitely check with the mechanics here before it gets worse.

The car runs smoothly though.

 

 

4000 rpm and 80kmh/50mph??? -- why punish the car when there is OBVIOUSLY something seriously amiss? For that amount of clutch slip the clutch is either TOTALLY worn out or BURNT out and abusing the car to this degree will result in something going bang in a BIG way. Any competent driver would realise that to drive as you describe you are doing is sheer stupidity unless he has a lot of money for unnecessary repairs

 

Mike

 

Thanks Mike for responding, however the car doesnt feel strained. 

Even the Skoda service centers told, there is no clutch issue.

I tried accelerating (in 3rd gear and emergency brake on), the car stalled.

I'll drive it again and give it to the garage for the checkup

 

Bit harsh! 4000rpm on a petrol is nothing. the redline is there as a visual gauge of dangerous prolonged engine revs, correct me if im wrong but he's well before this limit.

The engine has a limiter to prevent very dangerous revs. If the engine is warm oil up to temperature and car serviced etc and generally in good mechanical shape there should be no problem with 4000rpm. Typical comment from someone driving a car with an engine fit for a tractor :peek:

 

Back to the original question along with popular consensus I would say that the clutch is worn. Mine is starting to go as well and the heat makes the symptoms worse.

Although mine is a 2005 model so its not done bad to last this long.

 

The car is regularly services and the engine was warm while i tested it.

It might need a clutch replacement. Guess that would be a heavy blow in the wallet!

Thanks for your response.

 

Now I may be being a bit dumb here but surely if the OP has a badly slipping clutch then it will be revving to a lot more than 4000 rpm if he has his foot hard down.

 

Does the clutch smell like it is burning?

 

If you sit with the car at standstill in top gear and let the clutch out with the car at tickover, does it immediately stall? If so the clutch is OK. When you are driving along normally and put your foot down does the revs quickly rise without the speed rising? If so the clutch is faulty.

 

If what you are saying is that, even with your foot hard down, the car will not go faster than 80kph then I would be looking at the engine.

 

Ian

 

I dont see any clutch burning smell.

I tried accelerating (in 3rd gear and emergency brake on), the car stalled.

 

Let me re-check it. Thanks for your response.

 

I'll keep updating.