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ref the Mk3 Superb....

 

Electric parking brake?

ref the Mk3 Superb....

 

Electric parking brake?

 

Correct, across the range.

Sorry to poop on the DSG love-in, but I am not a fan at all.

The only car with a Dual Shaft Gearbox I have liked the gearbox in is an Audi R8 V10.

The next best was a Roomster 1.2 Tsi. In my experience, DSG and diesels don't mix very well-clunky, slow witted and don't work well in slow manouvering. Particularly on slopes. I live on a slope.

It is a good thing that people have different tastes, unfortunately VAG group don't seem to recognise this as it is now almost impossible to buy one of their vehicles with higher power engines and four wheel drive AND a manual gearbox for those like me who wouldn't buy a DSG car.

So I will be leaving the VAG fold after 6 Audi's and 1 Skoda when I change my current Superb.

Edited by Bristolf2b

I've gone DSG in my Golf R and overall it is great....the big issue I've still to master is very slow manoeuvres.

Especially on slopes in between cars or obstructions, I really struggle as you just do not have the ability to control the car as precisely as a conventional clutch.

I find I'm driving past gaps I wouldn't of even worried about in a manual as trying to get the hold brake off and move a foot or so once in a tight gap is so dodgy :)

And the other thing is every junction/roundabout I flip into sport to give me less lag if I need some umph to get out quickly.

I think I would go back to a manual at the moment given the chance, just for that bit of control a DSG lacks.

Edited by Defenderben

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did any diesel get a DAF-type belt CVT?

Subaru do a diesel CVT

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I remember Ford AVO building some rallycross V6 Capri 4x4's with CVT back in the mists of the 70's

I've gone DSG in my Golf R and overall it is great....the big issue I've still to master is very slow manoeuvres.

Especially on slopes in between cars or obstructions, I really struggle as you just do not have the ability to control the car as precisely as a conventional clutch.

I find I'm driving past gaps I wouldn't of even worried about in a manual as trying to get the hold brake off and move a foot or so once in a tight gap is so dodgy :)

And the other thing is every junction/roundabout I flip into sport to give me less lag if I need some umph to get out quickly.

I think I would go back to a manual at the moment given the chance, just for that bit of control a DSG lacks.

Why not just have hill hold control enabled by a member with VCDS?

I live in Sheffield which is rather famously hilly and use the HHC everyday with no issues like you say. ;)

It has a hold thing that's when the hand brake symbol is green, rather than red for full handbrake on but trying to move say a foot on a slope is nye on impossible for me ATM. It gets a bit hairy and feels like it will pick up on the clutch and bolt off into the obstacle.

Only had a DSG 6 weeks or so, big nrw learning curve ;)

I've gone DSG in my Golf R and overall it is great....the big issue I've still to master is very slow manoeuvres.

Especially on slopes in between cars or obstructions, I really struggle as you just do not have the ability to control the car as precisely as a conventional clutch.

I find I'm driving past gaps I wouldn't of even worried about in a manual as trying to get the hold brake off and move a foot or so once in a tight gap is so dodgy :)

And the other thing is every junction/roundabout I flip into sport to give me less lag if I need some umph to get out quickly.

I think I would go back to a manual at the moment given the chance, just for that bit of control a DSG lacks.

"Hold Brake", is that hill hold or an electric handbrake?

 

 All of our cars have 2.0 TSi / DSG, so reasonable performance even when compared with your Golf, but we don't have the problems that you do.

Only one car has hill hold, & all have normal handbrakes, but they will quite happily creep in & out of parking spaces, so maybe it's a handbrake problem?

 

We tend to treat our DSG cars like conventional automatics, so we use the footbrake against the creep, & only open the throttle if the car has to move upgrade.

The wide brake-pedal does allow left-foot braking whilst shunting......

 

DC

Going back to OP, putting my DSG newbie learning issues aside, dsg is great and as someone else said fuel consumption is almost as good as the manual equivalent and in some cases better.

Oldnewbie2

My hold brake and handbrake are all electronic, but can be overridden but as said still learning the art of DSG as it just does not creep up a slope only on the level.

Needs more practice and probably switch the hold brake off when manoeuvres are in progress :)

Edited by Defenderben

It has a hold thing that's when the hand brake symbol is green, rather than red for full handbrake on but trying to move say a foot on a slope is nye on impossible for me ATM. It gets a bit hairy and feels like it will pick up on the clutch and bolt off into the obstacle.

Only had a DSG 6 weeks or so, big nrw learning curve ;)

I don't think you have hill hold control then... There is no indication that it is being used on the dashboard.

When enabled the car senses when you are on an incline and on taking your foot off the footbrake it keeps all the brakes (not just the rear/handbrake) fully applied for a couple of seconds or until it senses you have your foot on the throttle at which point it automatically releases all four brake calipers. You can leisurely move your foot from brake to throttle and still have plenty of time to apply the throttle and pull away without any roll back at all. (Don't forget we have a lot of very steep hills in this neck of the woods).

The system is intelligent too in that if you are in drive and facing uphill it kicks in and also if you are in reverse and the back of the car is facing uphill it kicks in then. If the car is on a flat or facing downhill the system doesn't kick in.

The same senses are also used to sense when you are traveling down a steep hill so the DSG uses engine braking to control the speed of the car and will downshift automatically to simulate using the selecting of the low gear option in a standard auto box.

I use the HHC and the Park Assist quite a lot when visiting my parents. They live on a steep hill and I arrive facing downhill and quite often let the car park itself in the disabled bay they have outside their house as neighbours often park right up to the edges of the painted bay and there are no issues with small adjustments moving backwards etc....

I can't remember how much the HHC is as an option but think it is something like £250 hence me having it enabled by a Briskoda member on VCDS.

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*thinks*

 

transmission loading a DSG would be pointless, they have lock up from the start, a std slushbox doesnt, they have no full drive till both sets of TC blades are at the same speed

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whats the 30-60 (overtake) time for a 2ltr DSG Superb?

 

*checks Autocar*

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