Hello

Which is better of the two?

Bridgestone turanza t001 V (rated at 240 kmh)

continental premuimcontact 5 H (rated at 210kmh)

Sadly our continental dealer does not import v rated tires for the size required. Keep in mind the ones that came with the car are V rated.

Thanks

Edited 28 December, 201510 yr by zico900

Maybe use some other supplier then.

Like Black Circles, Mytyres etc etc.    What kind of Continental Dealer are you getting tyres from?

I find the Bridgestones very noisy - I find the contis nice but a bit softer and wear quicker.

 

Maybe use some other supplier then.

Like Black Circles, Mytyres etc etc.    What kind of Continental Dealer are you getting tyres from?

Iam not in the UK, and the dealer does not import V rate for this tyre size :(

so just bringing it down to only these two options....which should i pick?

 

I find the Bridgestones very noisy - I find the contis nice but a bit softer and wear quicker.

softer? do you mean they give a better ride quality?

Isn't that about 130mph for the Conti.

If it's for a VRS etc then the tyre isn't rated high enough. Even if you don't drive the car at those speeds then someone else could buy it and do so.

Quite far fetched way of thinking about it but worth considering.

Do you drive at 240 kph? If not then you can simply live without V rating. By sticking to it you simply reduce tyre choice, that's all.

Do you drive at 240 kph? If not then you can simply live without V rating. By sticking to it you simply reduce tyre choice, that's all.

Do you never do emergency stops or swerves? Can you retain the load index of the existing tyres in an H rating?

 Can you retain the load index of the existing tyres in an H rating?

I guess you can.

I bought Michelin winter tyres with some low speed rating (160 kph or something like that) but anyway the load index was high. I think that it really matters only if you carry really heavy luggage, lots of passengers and tow a trailer too...otherwise these 600+kg on one tyre make ~2,4 tons  and that's more than I can imagine for my car.

I guess you can.

I bought Michelin winter tyres with some low speed rating (160 kph or something like that) but anyway the load index was high. I think that it really matters only if you carry really heavy luggage, lots of passengers and tow a trailer too...otherwise these 600+kg on one tyre make ~2,4 tons  and that's more than I can imagine for my car.

A proper emergency stop rests most of the mass of the car on the front tyres; now hit a pothole and yes I can easily see a shock loading of 600kg on a front corner.

A proper emergency stop rests most of the mass of the car on the front tyres; now hit a pothole and yes I can easily see a shock loading of 600kg on a front corner.

 

And do you really think that speed index that allows, let's say, 160 kph is for calm driving only and V rating allows you to break hard? I find it hard to believe.

What does this 160 kph thing mean? It means that you are able to drive at that speed for a longer time and I doubt that breaking and emergency stops haven't been included in this calculation.

 

Sure, you can by any tyres you wish. They might be suitable for 300 or 400 kph speeds but I don't see any need for that. Actually I've never heard about any blown tyres while braking. They get punctures, they get damaged against some concrete or stone elements but it's different. A pothole? I doubt that V rating will save you. If you really are worried about them then don't buy these low profile tyres and you'll be safe.

And do you really think that speed index that allows, let's say, 160 kph is for calm driving only and V rating allows you to break hard? I find it hard to believe.

What does this 160 kph thing mean? It means that you are able to drive at that speed for a longer time and I doubt that breaking and emergency stops haven't been included in this calculation.

 

Sure, you can by any tyres you wish. They might be suitable for 300 or 400 kph speeds but I don't see any need for that. Actually I've never heard about any blown tyres while braking. They get punctures, they get damaged against some concrete or stone elements but it's different. A pothole? I doubt that V rating will save you. If you really are worried about them then don't buy these low profile tyres and you'll be safe.

Please find out the difference between a speed rating and a load index before attempting to continue this conversation, or have any other regarding tyre speed rating and loadings.

Look at what the official stated tyre speeds, load, width and aspect are. Fit the correct factory one, failure to do so can invalidate insurance policy

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Please find out the difference between a speed rating and a load index before attempting to continue this conversation, or have any other regarding tyre speed rating and loadings.

 

I know what is the speed rating and what's the load index. Probably there is some problem with our discussion but let it be.

What's the my point. I've seen many tyres with different load indexes & speed indexes and mostly the load index is more than enough for normal use even for usual tyres. If you wish to carry some extra load or obtain tyres with a very high load index, this might be your choice but I don't see any need for that.

Only fit tyres of at least the a died rating as standard

Therefore the continental tyres should fitted to your car. As has been said in the UK it would invalidate your insurance.I would imagine the sane where you live

We have 70 mph limit, I have up fit y rated tyres as that is factory spec

Just to correct the above

You need at least the same speed rating as standard spec

The continental therefore should not be fitted

Do you never do emergency stops or swerves? Can you retain the load index of the existing tyres in an H rating?

Load Index isn't the same as speed rating.  Load index is the number (eg: 94), speed rating is the letter (v, h, etc).  One isn't linked to the other.

For most jurisdictions you must maintain or exceed the the load index but there is some wiggle room with the speed rating. 

 

Unfortunately the OP doesn't say where he's from so it's a bit hard to give advice.

Load Index isn't the same as speed rating.  Load index is the number (eg: 94), speed rating is the letter (v, h, etc).  One isn't linked to the other.

For most jurisdictions you must maintain or exceed the the load index but there is some wiggle room with the speed rating. 

 

Unfortunately the OP doesn't say where he's from so it's a bit hard to give advice.

I know that; given that the individual (not the OP) whom I replied to responded to a comment about dynamic load increase under braking with a remark about speed ratings it's clear that not everyone does.

higher speed rating = stiffer walls of tire = harder cornering

 

Conti EcoContact = soft = I worn tires in 2500km = racing style driving

 

ContiWinterContact my favourite universal = 8000km with same driving as above by

 

now, my second favourite Yoko C.Drive.

What size tyres are we talking about and what car? 

 

Do you have access to say Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance or Dunlop Blu SportResponse?

I know that; given that the individual (not the OP) whom I replied to responded to a comment about dynamic load increase under braking with a remark about speed ratings it's clear that not everyone does.

No dispute about dynamic load under under braking, but the law in the UK allows for fitment of lower speed rating and lower load index (collectively known as Service Description).  The plated max axle capacity is normally well above the running mass, and if exceeded represents an overloaded vehicle anyway.  Tyres with a (lower) Load Index (but) which allow for this max axle capacity are legally OK if not necessarily endorsed by either manufacturer or insurer.  Running non-pneumatic tyres i.e. solids is the only way to avoid the blowouts being referred to in extreme circumstances, transferring the stress to the wheels and suspension.  Pneumatic tyres are the accepted OEM technology for a reason.

 

A tyre size conversion may offer the "correct" or better Service Description in the same patter, but same issues apply.

 

I've checked and I'm happy to do this if I accept any insurance and warranty implications.  Different rules may apply outside the UK though. 

 

If you don't agree, do your own checks or just play safe and replace like with like; and pay the main dealer to do it if you want to get your leg lifted but stay super safe.

No dispute about dynamic load under under braking, but the law in the UK allows for fitment of lower speed rating and lower load index (collectively known as Service Description).  The plated max axle capacity is normally well above the running mass, and if exceeded represents an overloaded vehicle anyway.  Tyres with a (lower) Load Index (but) which allow for this max axle capacity are legally OK if not necessarily endorsed by either manufacturer or insurer.  Running non-pneumatic tyres i.e. solids is the only way to avoid the blowouts being referred to in extreme circumstances, transferring the stress to the wheels and suspension.  Pneumatic tyres are the accepted OEM technology for a reason.

 

A tyre size conversion may offer the "correct" or better Service Description in the same patter, but same issues apply.

 

I've checked and I'm happy to do this if I accept any insurance and warranty implications.  Different rules may apply outside the UK though. 

 

If you don't agree, do your own checks or just play safe and replace like with like; and pay the main dealer to do it if you want to get your leg lifted but stay super safe.

I see your points, and agree most of them.

 

I don't understand why you felt the need to bring them specifically to my attention though. I repeat that answering a point about one tyre characteristic with a statement about another just demonstrates a lack of understanding on the part of the person making the answer.

I was actually trying to quote the quote you were replying to and by dint to clarify that there's a separate question going on. Sorry for the confusion,but it seems you can't nest quotes.

I was actually trying to quote the quote you were replying to and by dint to clarify that there's a separate question going on. Sorry for the confusion,but it seems you can't nest quotes.

No problem.

 

You want the "MultiQuote" button. Press it once on each post you wish to quote, and then press the black "reply to N message(s)" button that appeared when you pressed it the first time.

Edited 22 January, 201610 yr by KenONeill