Still considering a replacement for the Octavia I quite fancy a naturally aspirated car.

What do you know about Vauxhall Vectra/Signum/Omega 3.2 V6's ??

Nice Vectra here, looks liek a bargain!

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=VAUXHALL&model=VECTRA&variant=v6&keywords=&min_pr=5000&max_pr=&mileage=5&agerange=5&postcode=b77+3lr&miles=1500&max_records=200&source=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=1&distance=74&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200605222776117

That does look like a tempting price...

Dad had one as a hire car for a fortnight - and its ok. Really quite economical - he averaged 38mpg but he's a slouch. Still not bad though.

Not stormingly quick, but not slow either. Silly complicated computer thing similar to the i-drive in the BMW. Oh, and feels quite like a coupe inside with the short side windows etc.

You're making it seem even more tempting Tom!

the copper from telford was driving one of these on his 159 mph "familiarisation" run down the M54

thats a lot of car for the money

I remember thinking the orange dash illumination was horrible, but thats personal taste of course.

And the dials/buttons feel really fiddly, and quite cheap. A lot of cheapo silver in there too.

The seats were quite poor too, would have been better if I wasn't an "XL"

Did have dual zone climate mind, and the engine is a sweet sounding V6, but didn't really get any nicer sounding when pressing on compared to crawling about.

I agree though, a LOT of car for the money.

Ford's offering is better

Chris

Still considering a replacement for the Octavia I quite fancy a naturally aspirated car.

What do you know about Vauxhall Vectra/Signum/Omega 3.2 V6's ??

Nice Vectra here' date=' looks liek a bargain!

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Hi

The Omega is of course rear wheel drive and quite lairy when provoked. Excellent fun all round. Very quiet and good at eating motorway miles. Surprising thing is they are quite agile on b roads as well. General driving my Omega sees around 24-25mpg, town driving down to 20 or less, motorway cruising 32 (at speed possibly a bit above 70mph;) )

The engines are pretty solid generally, but can start to suffer oil leaks on the cam covers at around 100,000 miles as the breathing gets too heavy for the extraction. Use of Mobil 1 from new or intermediate mileage prevents this. Be sure the cambelt and tensioner are changed at correct intervals. The tensioner failing is a known issue on the V6 if you go too far past a change point.

Engines generally rev out well and tend to perform quicker than manufacturer figures would suggest. Over 150mph is acheivable on all 3L / 3.2L v6 equipped Vauxhalls. The brand gets a lot of slagging off here on Briskoda, but I suspect it is just people listening to Clarkson.

Chris

the model in the ad IS the one that copper is being done for driving at 159 mph in so not slow.... I wouldn't like the fuel consuption though....

and what Chris says about the omega.... I drove one of those, and if you think the handling in the furby is bad be prepared for a shock, not "quite lairy" I say extreamly lairy, very fast if you are on a motorway, (really v.fast!) but show it a fast roundabout and you'll have ford focus's overtaking you its so bad! (sorry Chris, but the one I drove was so soft it leaned like a boat, and would still get the back end out with a small touch of the throttle with the traction control on!)

As already mentioned the offering from FORD is far better...........

the model in the ad IS the one that copper is being done for driving at 159 mph in so not slow.... I wouldn't like the fuel consuption though....

and what Chris says about the omega.... I drove one of those' date=' and if you think the handling in the furby is bad be prepared for a shock, not "quite lairy" I say extreamly lairy, very fast if you are on a motorway, (really v.fast!) but show it a fast roundabout and you'll have ford focus's overtaking you its so bad! (sorry Chris, but the one I drove was so soft it leaned like a boat, and would still get the back end out with a small touch of the throttle with the traction control on!)[/quote']

Hi

That is where you went wrong! A small touch of throttle does not get the weight transfer rearwards so it will swing about all over the place. Mine is on the factory Elite pack suspension, so is noticably lower and stiffer than a normal one.

Roundabout procedure is usually thus: brake down to entry speed, pop gearbox in sport mode and heel the car over to load the right hand side on entry and trailing throttle. Get a little on the gas to get the weight transfer going gently rearwards before putting in a fairly harsh steering input to apex the roundabout, you now find it steering from the rear. Now easy enough to back off the gas for a fraction and simultaneously flick the car left again for the exit and as soon as you get the oversteer balance threatening to swing the rear, get properly on the gas. If you get kickdown at this point, it will normally stay hooked up OK. If you have it just right, you actually exit with virtually no steering applied and do it all from the gas pedal. A little opposite lock applied will correct anything before the TC gets a chance (it is a slow witted TC that lets you get away wit too much then just cuts the engine). The LSD helps as well. Lift off at this phase however, and you will be proceeding directly to the scene of the accident.

On my favourite 19 mile stretch of B road around here, the Omega can cover what I call the fast bits (ie the NSL sections) in 16m20s. The Fabia vRS will only manage 17m14s. The Omegas mod enhanced straight line pace and corner exit speed are the clincher. rear wheel drive makes a significant difference. On a twistier route the Fabia may well swing it though.

If you want proper lairy, you should try the 24v Vauxhall Senator. These should have been fitted with windscreen wipers on the side windows.

Chris

edit: mymates Focus ST170 feels slow but gets down the same reference stretch in 16m24s. I suspect hecould be quicker still, but he has more brain cells than me. Some of the local scooby guys have been into the 15m region!

Hi

The Omega is of course rear wheel drive and quite lairy when provoked. Excellent fun all round. Very quiet and good at eating motorway miles. Surprising thing is they are quite agile on b roads as well. General driving my Omega sees around 24-25mpg' date=' town driving down to 20 or less, motorway cruising 32 (at speed possibly a bit above 70mph;) )

The engines are pretty solid generally, but can start to suffer oil leaks on the cam covers at around 100,000 miles as the breathing gets too heavy for the extraction. Use of Mobil 1 from new or intermediate mileage prevents this. Be sure the cambelt and tensioner are changed at correct intervals. The tensioner failing is a known issue on the V6 if you go too far past a change point.

Engines generally rev out well and tend to perform quicker than manufacturer figures would suggest. Over 150mph is acheivable on all 3L / 3.2L v6 equipped Vauxhalls. The brand gets a lot of slagging off here on Briskoda, but I suspect it is just people listening to Clarkson.

Chris[/quote']

Totally agree with everything you said, had the 3Litre V6 before the Fabia The most comfortable car I've ever been in too (ride-wise).

Had the 2.2 sri as a hire car and i liked it revesring is a right pain in the a$$ (it's worse than an octy hatch) If you want it do it Vauxhall seem to have pulled there socks up quite a bit.

No one is going to drive these slowly (except Toms dad;) ).

If you aren't bothered about mpg, it looks smart.As long as I get 25+mpg I don't care.

Wish people would pack it in with the chrome obsession though.Skoda included.

The silver on the inside thing has been done to death and the pretend blingy chrome on exteriors suck too.

Hmmm.. Signums can be had for about £7-£8k with just 25k miles on the clock!

signum is a top car for the money... would consider a remapped 3.0tdi ....

Make sure If you get one It's had it's Spark Plugs done Recently!!!! Whole Inlet manifold off Job! Nightmare, Plus it's a Vauxhall But a Quick old bus no doubt!

the copper from telford was driving one of these on his 159 mph "familiarisation" run down the M54

thats a lot of car for the money

It’s an amazing top speed! But PC Milton' date=' the cretin who decided to try out his Bonneville Salt Flats Special, also did 92mph thorough a 30 zone. This means he would probably be travelling thorough a built-up area with 100mph showing on his speedo-the man should be locked up. Also, he originally was cleared of this off-duty misdemeanour and it’s only recently that this decision was overturned and he will have to answer for his recklessness. Don’t get me wrong I have been known to exceed the speed limit, but over 3 times the limit in a built up area!!!! he's taking the Michael.[/size']

Also his 159mph is impressive as the Vectra is limited to 155 I think.

I have edited this to say robmawer is right he was on duty, I should have said he was not responding to an emergency, had no Blues on and no siren blaring....he's still a nutter.

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he originally was cleared of this off-duty misdemeanour

Would this be the same off-duty misdemeanour which occured (if the new reports are to be believed) while on-duty?

Still, yes, lock him up, what kind of knowledge about the case is needed, eh?

Rob.

Meanwhile back on topic...................... Who remaps Vauxhalls ?

Meanwhile back on topic...................... Who remaps Vauxhalls ?

Superchips do for one

Chris

Ooo just down the road......... from where I used to live

Chap at work has a 3.2 Vectra - lovely car - I'd take it over the mundaneo any day.

Hi

Over 150mph is acheivable on all 3L / 3.2L v6 equipped Vauxhalls. The brand gets a lot of slagging off here on Briskoda' date=' but I suspect it is just people listening to Clarkson.

Chris[/quote']

I agree Vauxhall is seen as a good target, same as people have a go at Skoda, often without reason or real thought. Having lived with a range of makes/models over my many years and they have been better than most. Reliabilty great, my son has had similar experiences with very limited problems.

What I have found is the better the model the better the build and reliability for some unknown reason?:confused: