HI, I've just bought a 2012 Scout with the 2.0 cr diesel engine and manual gearbox, it's returning about 41mpg over some (predominantly)  motorway and some urban/town is that about right in other peoples experience?

I've read a lot about the emission update having a detrimental impact on fuel consumption (and increased noise) and I'm considering having the update rolled back, id be really interested to hear others views and experiences?

Welcome.

 

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Did you buy the car with The Fix already done so no experience of it Pre-fix?

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How long ago was it done, and at how many miles?

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Does it run well?

Thank you. yeah exactly that it, was ex lease company so they had the update done automatically.

 

so I don't really know how long ago and at what mileage it was done.

 

It runs fine except it feels heavy on fuel? but it might just be that they are heavy on fuel? I've seen people quoting late forties early fifties to the gallon which was more in line with what I expected  

Check the sticker in the boot for the Service Recall Action date, or ask Skoda UK.

After all you want to know when the 24 month Guarantee / Trust Building Measure offer from VW Group / Skoda started.

ie when you can get them to fix things that might go wrong.

http://skoda.co.uk/about-us/contact-us 

I have a PD Octy Scout - I missed out on getting a CR engine by less than 6 weeks!

 

After reading several threads on here I was an initially disappointed with the fuel consumption of my vehicle when I first got it.  It would appear most other Scout owners were getting mid to late 40's/early 50's around town, and mid to late 50's if driven mostly on motorways, whereas I was getting 46-48mpg, with a one off best of 51.7mpg predominantly on motorways - short journeys were negligable .

 

Now my daily commute has reduced from 100 mile per day of A and M roads to 7 miles of 30/40 mph roads, with the occasional blast into Glasgow of 20 miles every few weeks, I'm getting an average of 43.7mpg.  Around town it is around 36-38mpg, and when most journeys are via motorway 46-48mpg.  These figures are via Fuelly and cover over 90,000 miles, 9,405 litres of diesel and 185 fuel ups.  The vehicle is serviced every 9,400 miles or 12 months, and I use Sainsbury/ASDA fuel.  When on the motorway, I set my cruise control to 60mph, I very rarely feel the need to rush to my destination, and when going into Glasgow, I nearly always catch up with the vehicles that had bombed past me at 80+ mph earlier in the journey.

 

I do wish my my around town, and motorways consumption were 5mpg more, but the capabilities of the vehicle more than compensate for any fuel consumption deficiencies.

4 minutes ago, Fin69 said:

I have a PD Octy Scout - I missed out on getting a CR engine by less than 6 weeks!

 

After reading several threads on here I was an initially disappointed with the fuel consumption of my vehicle when I first got it.  It would appear most other Scout owners were getting mid to late 40's/early 50's around town, and mid to late 50's if driven mostly on motorways, whereas I was getting 46-48mpg, with a one off best of 51.7mpg predominantly on motorways - short journeys were negligable .

 

Now my daily commute has reduced from 100 mile per day of A and M roads to 7 miles of 30/40 mph roads, with the occasional blast into Glasgow of 20 miles every few weeks, I'm getting an average of 43.7mpg.  Around town it is around 36-38mpg, and when most journeys are via motorway 46-48mpg.  These figures are via Fuelly and cover over 90,000 miles, 9,405 litres of diesel and 185 fuel ups.  The vehicle is serviced every 9,400 miles or 12 months, and I use Sainsbury/ASDA fuel.  When on the motorway, I set my cruise control to 60mph, I very rarely feel the need to rush to my destination, and when going into Glasgow, I nearly always catch up with the vehicles that had bombed past me at 80+ mph earlier in the journey.

 

I do wish my my around town, and motorways consumption were 5mpg more, but the capabilities of the vehicle more than compensate for any fuel consumption deficiencies.

Thanks for the reply, it seems that the fuel return may be about right then? can I ask have you had the emission fix or did it not apply to the PD engine?

According to the online checker on the Skoda website, the *ahem* 'fix' does not apply to my vehicle.

 

That's not to say Skoda have not 'tinkered' with it when they conduct software updates during routine servicing.  I have had the EGR Cooler replaced two years ago, which the independent engineer sent out to assess it, thought was 'unusual, though not unheard of' given the vehicles age and mileage.  It should be noted both my local Skoda dealers gave the EGR Cooler a clean bill of health when I took it in for them to assess.

Long term average of around 50mpg on my pd scout - see fuelly in my sig for further details 

7 minutes ago, Anddenton said:

Long term average of around 50mpg on my pd scout - see fuelly in my sig for further details 

 

Your pd probably escapes the DPF gubbins (er possibly just!). I always found the real life economy of the pd's to be great

 

4 hours ago, Fin69 said:

According to the online checker on the Skoda website, the *ahem* 'fix' does not apply to my vehicle.

 

 

Yup - the pd predated the "cheat" and conformed to an earlier emissions standard  so didn't need the fix

 

 

Defo has a DPF fitted as I had to replace the diff pressure sensor last year. I'm a very gentle driver, hence it doing 172k miles on original clutch, DMF, DPF, EGR, Turbo etc.

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Anecdotally the 'fix' seems to have about a  5 mpg adverse effect even  for 'successful' applications, but obviously can be much worse where affected components are not up to scratch. The 'successful' application seems in-line with the OP's consumption experiences and not unreasonable expectations.

Awaoffski's suggestion to find out when the fix was applied for warranty purposes sounds a good idea.

Personally I'd wait until warmer conditions and summer fuel to see if consumption is then more acceptable.

It might even be worthwhile investing in a cheapish OBDC dongle and app to view the state of the DPF and better monitor regens.

Are  fix roll-backs easily applied, if so at what cost? I expect a fix rollback would invalidate the 'fix' warranty.

 

I take it the OP has checked for other maintenance factors such tyre pressures, binding brakes,  air filter condition etc?

 

 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Gerrycan said:

Anecdotally the 'fix' seems to have about a  5 mpg adverse effect even  for 'successful' applications, but obviously can be much worse where affected components are not up to scratch. The 'successful' application seems in-line with the OP's consumption experiences and not unreasonable expectations.

Awaoffski's suggestion to find out when the fix was applied for warranty purposes sounds a good idea.

Personally I'd wait until warmer conditions and summer fuel to see if consumption is then more acceptable.

It might even be worthwhile investing in a cheapish OBDC dongle and app to view the state of the DPF and better monitor regens.

Are  fix roll-backs easily applied, if so at what cost? I expect a fix rollback would invalidate the 'fix' warranty.

 

I take it the OP has checked for other maintenance factors such tyre pressures, binding brakes,  air filter condition etc?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks all for your replies,

 

If I'm honest I'm not particularly concerned about where my car is in the 24-month trust building measure because they will wiggle out of paying for anything!!

Can anyone recommend an app and dongle that will work with iPhone?

Seems fairly easy to roll back the fix,  about an hour and between £50 and £150 to have it done and my feeling is that I'm less likely to have components fail if the engine is running the software it was designed around rather than this version that anecdotally causes premature component failure, to my mind caused by overuse and utilising vehicle systems outside of their design parameters? I guess rolling it back would invalidate the 24-month trust builder but on balance I think I'm less likely to have issues?

 

My unfixed 2.0 CR Scout averages long term 49-51mpg. I'm leaving it unfixed because of the anecdotal component failures, and slightly higher fuel consumption.