Oil change to me meant in my younger days, get under car/ get oil hot , take out plug/drain oil/ remove/replace filter /replace plug & refill. These days, I can get under car, but then WHO's going to get me out. So a new method is needed. Furby filter is easy, but not getting under. So , I bought an oil pump. Problem is that in booklet it says "cool oil". But in my younger days , it was advised to get oil up to working temp to get rid of crap etc. So,any idea of the happy medium between working temp and cool ?

I would imagine any temperature that won’t damage the apparatus will be ok.     +2-3hrs.

I have used my Pela/sealey extractor on oil that has been pretty warm and had no issues, probably 50-60C, but TBH I would say anything over 30C is warm enough to suck the oil out with ease.

 

 

It is not 'cool oil'  in the Technicians manual.

 

Get the oil nice and warm so that will be between 50*oC & up to 90*oC and do things safely and 50*oC oil is not going to burn you and you should not be touching it anyway.

& the Sump Plug should still be replaced when sucking out the oil. You drain the last of the oil if there is any to drain.

Drain off or suction off engine oil.doc

 

'At normal operating temperature',  so the same as all the Oil levels are checked with Skoda / VW engines other than 1.2 44kw engines where the manual says check when cold.

Edited 8 August, 20187 yr by Offski

I’ll second was @Offski said re dropping the sump plug after pumping. Not sure what engine you have, but I have the CFFB engine in both Superb and a 2011 Golf. 

 

The Skoda is a bit new to be servicing myself but with the Golf, there is still over a litre of oil that the Pela can’t get. So you need to be dropping and replacing the sump plug anyway. 

 

I came to the conclusion a while ago that it's just not worth my while to do this stuff any more. I'll just pay someone.

What's the point in sucking the oil out if you have to remove the sump plug to drain the remaining oil anyway?

 

Only reason I can think of is potentially less mess when removing the sump plug because there's less oil to come out.

 

Do you not have a jack & axle stands to safely get under the car, or is a physical health issue preventing you?

4 hours ago, petrolbloke said:

What's the point in sucking the oil out if you have to remove the sump plug to drain the remaining oil anyway?

 

Only reason I can think of is potentially less mess when removing the sump plug because there's less oil to come out.

 

Do you not have a jack & axle stands to safely get under the car, or is a physical health issue preventing you?

 

You don't have to do it by the book, if i'm sucking oil out, its because I don't plan on going under the car just like everybody else. Like you say, there is no point sucking it out to then go underneath and drain the rest.

The point of professionals and others suctioning out the oil is H&S and handiness.

The point of changing the sump plug is that when you have sucked oil out of various engines then replaced the sump plug you can see sometimes the oil that is left and its condition.

 

No reason for anyone with their own car to do it if they do not want to, as they know the car and the history, oil that is in and for how long.

Maybe if they buy a used car they will want to take the sump plug out to drain the last of the oil.

 

Maybe they will just leave as is, because finding out someone stripped the threads and used liquid metal or plumbers tape to put the sump plug in can break your heart.

Thanks, folks- up till Furbie, I've always changed oil my self and never had skin problems ( close to 50 years worth of changing) or burnt myself with hot oil. Furbie has alway haddrop plug changes ,but cost of  places you can trust makes it a bit on the expensive side. I've got the experience ( not many car related jobs I've not done) and the time, but my old bones make under the car acrobatics nigh on impossible. As for oil condition and quantity- I've got an old screenwash bottle to pump it into, and I've graduated the bottle, so I'll know when I'm close to empty. 

Only thing I was worried about was plastic tube melting inside engine and causing nasties.

Put a pot of water on the cooker and bring to the boil,  a rolling boil will do.

Put the pipe in it and if it does not melt then it is not going to melt in the engines engine oil / dip stick tube.   Well hopefully.

 

Cant say it will not melt if i try in my strawberry jam that is on the stove, but i will go and try.

It won't melt in the engine. 

Tried it in a warm engine. No melting, but even at 3mm ,pipe only got out 2.5L . I'd suggest that pipe is too short, but I found problems getting it down to the full extent of the pipe. TBH- I found it a lot more bother than ye old get under an take out the plug method, but at my advanced age and mobility, that's going to be, me getting under, taking out plug and Swimbo grabbing me by ankles to get me out.  I was trying to avoid SIL doing it. He's happy, when he's got time, but my daughter will decide that it's a priority. And I'm an independent old gent.