I looked and found a lovely Skoda Superb 1.6 Greenline from Fords of Winsford. I waited, I finally got it and went to tax it and the cost was far to high. Phoned the DVLA and they said it wasn't in the Greenline tax band due to its high emissions, even though it said Greenline on the V5. I phoned Skoda who confirmed that it wasn't a Greenline even though the V5 said it and their only explanation was "oh, it must have been mis-registered by the garage that first sold it.

Which raises 2 points. The previous (one owner) has been over charged by £90 a year for the previous 5 years. Not my problem, but its not on. Secondly, did Skoda do it on purpose? Did they sell a "Greenline" to an unsuspecting customer when really it was the more expensive to run non-Greenline model? Is it another example of the emissions scandal from VAG?

 

What are your thoughts?

 

As for me, I now don't own a Superb and have the hassle of cancelling my insurance and getting my road tax refunded. I was originally looking at an Octavia, so I might be back, just in a different forum!

 

Nick

Edited 23 November, 20187 yr by NikTheGeek

Getting the wrong information on the V5 happens more than you might think.

 

If the car is a nice example and has the 1.6 TDI engine, then is a £90 annual premium really worth the hassle you're going through to return it?

If perhaps a premium was paid for said Greenline model in the hope of the promised MPG. Even if that was not the case the model commands more than a non Greenline?

Therefore would you want to keep it knowing you could have got an ordinary one for less?

Is it worth checking it has the lowered suspension and smaller wheels to confirm it has the other features as well present or missing?

 

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Is it a good car and do you like it?

 

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Why not keep it?   

 

Get a contribution back from who sold you it, or mis advertised it and represented it to you wrongly. 

A few hundred quid back to you to cover your extra cost if you actually have costs like the VED. 

I would be asking for £500, they can put that down to 'A lesson' 

They pay tax on profits so that is not costing them £500....

 

 Is the car you bought not actually worth more according to the Book Price or WBAC than what they priced it at. 

Edited 24 November, 20187 yr by Offski

12 hours ago, NikTheGeek said:

I looked and found a lovely Skoda Superb 1.6 Greenline from Fords of Winsford. I waited, I finally got it and went to tax it and the cost was far to high. 

 

What was the CO2 figure on the V5, that's the important figure and once registered can't be changed.

 

Saying that unless you have some of the very high road tax bands £500+ car tax is one of the lower running costs of a car compared to depreciation, fuel, servicing/repairs and sometimes tyres (on some cars this can also be significant  - I had one briefly that only did 12,000 miles on a set which cost nearly £1000 - when you do 15,000 miles a year that's a lot! - never again)

Edited 24 November, 20187 yr by bigjohn

PS

I know nothing about these cars / engines / 1.6TDI CR

 

So did these have the Defeat Device, or has this one missed the Bullit, and no Fix required or carried out. 

So the one that you would want!   Or has it new Engine Management and a Flow Device fitted and a lottery ticket to it being a Lemon.

http://skoda.co.uk/dieselinfo

 

10 minutes ago, Offski said:

PS

I know nothing about these cars / engines / 1.6TDI CR

 

So did these have the Defeat Device, or has this one missed the Bullit, and no Fix required or carried out. 

So the one that you would want!   Or has it new Engine Management and a Flow Device fitted and a lottery ticket to it being a Lemon.

http://skoda.co.uk/dieselinfo

 

 

The 1.6 CR diesel fitted to the Superb II is subject to the emissions recall

 

Edited 24 November, 20187 yr by bigjohn

11 hours ago, silver1011 said:

Getting the wrong information on the V5 happens more than you might think.

 

If the car is a nice example and has the 1.6 TDI engine, then is a £90 annual premium really worth the hassle you're going through to return it?

 

I bought the car for it's claimed mpg. Had it been 1 or 2 different, I would have kept it and argued for a discount, but the mpg was substantially different and every time I filled up for the next 5 years, I'd have been crying at the pump!!

 

Nick

What's the difference in MPG? The Greenline gets slightly lower suspension, lower rolling resistance tyres and a lip spoiler on the bootlid but the same 1.6 TDI engine, gearbox and 16" wheels?

 

Anything else?

56 vs 64

 

So even taking them with a pinch of salt, there is 8mpg difference. Which over 5 years of ownership and lots of miles would add up.

If i returned every car I bought that didn't match the claimed mpg figure I doubt I would be able to own a car. The quoted mpg figures are next to impossible to get in the real world.

56 mpg for a car the size of a  superb is pretty good I think. 

Edited 24 November, 20187 yr by seriesdriver

22 minutes ago, seriesdriver said:

If i returned every car I bought that didn't match the claimed mpg figure I doubt I would be able to own a car. The quoted mpg figures are next to impossible to get in the real world.

56 mpg for a car the size of a  superb is pretty good I think. 

 

That is sort of my point though. I would never have got the 64 combined of the Greenline in real world driving, so I certainly didn't want to settle for never getting the 54 of the non-Greenline version. It averaged 42 on the on-board computer.

38 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

The Greenline gets slightly lower suspension, lower rolling resistance tyres and a lip spoiler on the bootlid but the same 1.6 TDI engine, gearbox and 16" wheels?

 

Anything else?

 

Comparing Greenline 1.6 cars to "normal" 1.6 cars very much depends on the year and specification.

 

My 2014  facelift 1.6d elegance is not a Greenline but it was fitted with all the "GRT" (Greenline Technology) goodies. Many 1.6d's would have had a 5 speed gearbox and no Greenline technology. Comparing those to a 6 speed Greenline car gives a bigger mpg difference than comparing to my car.

 

In my case, I am not a Greenline but I have the spoilers, underbody covers, 6 speed manual box as well as the same Greenline technology. The mpg differences between mine and a full on Greenline would only be as a result of me having the full height suspension, 17 inch wheels (slimmer 16's are on a Greenline), spare wheel  (Greenlines get the latex kit) and towbar prep. There is also a lot more toys and options on an Irish spec Elegance.

 

The road tax implication must be easier on the wallet here. The annual road tax is based purely on CO2 emissions. The Greenline would have come in at 190 euro a year, my  Elegance  is a tenner more (200 euro). 

 

Claimed Fuel consumption was no such thing'.  Read Fuel Consumption Statements from Manufacturers.

(sadly the website has changed and Skoda deleted the old statement.)

http://skoda.co.uk/pages/fuel-consumption-statement.aspx

Just taken down recently and this is now there.

 

 

 It was EU Testing in a temperature controlled building on a rolling road with a vehicle with no options and a comparison of Manufacturers cheating. 

 

As to lower suspension, do not go by ground clearance as the Greenline or other models of Greenline can have wheels / tyres that have the 'under body' streamlining panels nearer the ground as do the Tyres / Wheels less total diameter and owners can change tyre / wheels.

 

The height to measure is Ground to roof and maybe a empty car next to another different spec could be 20 mm lower.

That does not mean there are 20 mm shorter springs on the car.  There might be, there  might be 15mm shorter springs.

26 minutes ago, NikTheGeek said:

 

That is sort of my point though. I would never have got the 64 combined of the Greenline in real world driving, so I certainly didn't want to settle for never getting the 54 of the non-Greenline version. It averaged 42 on the on-board computer.

I owned a 2013 facelift Greenline from new for 4years, before it ended up at Fords of Winford via the trade.

It was absolutely fantastic on fuel and my real world average was 60.

41 minutes ago, NikTheGeek said:

 

That is sort of my point though. I would never have got the 64 combined of the Greenline in real world driving, so I certainly didn't want to settle for never getting the 54 of the non-Greenline version. It averaged 42 on the on-board computer.

 

 

Yeah but the onboard fuel computers are not that accurate either if you didn't do brim to brim fill ups  and do the maths who knows what it was actually doing to a gallon ?

6 hours ago, NikTheGeek said:

 

That is sort of my point though. I would never have got the 64 combined of the Greenline in real world driving, so I certainly didn't want to settle for never getting the 54 of the non-Greenline version. It averaged 42 on the on-board computer.

 

Er - my petrol gets more than that.  I'd ease up on the drag racing 

 

2014 FL Greenline here and 58 - 62 combined mpg. Depends on my mood and how many long journeys I get in a particular tank (day trips away with the family etc).

 

It's remapped though and with the better greenline aerodynamics and 6 speed it out performs 2.0l cr