So maybe 300 odd miles in UK warmer weather on your jack Jones in a spacious family car with a fair wind.

 

 

 

 

 

Pleased to see him mention the delivery tyre pressures.

Ridiculous they were handed over the pressure that they were, but surely as a car dealer he knows the Transit Pressures are for the sake of strapping the cars down on ships, transporters etc.  

 

 

 

OMG 50 PSI at cold, was probably showing 52/53 when running after a few miles.

If the car had skidded and had a crash and the accident investigator measured them and checked they should have been 42 PSI it would not be good for the accident report.

 

Tesla should be very aware of tyre issues as all EV companies should be as EVs have twice as many tyres issues compare to ICE cars presumably due to their higher weights.  I recall reading the damage to tyres and roads are related to the the forth power so 19% higher weight would double the damage etc to the tyres etc.

 

If anything I think Renault go a bit low as their recommended pressure are 33 psi by some reference tyre supplier webpages.  That seem and feels wrong and many Zoe owners go more 38 PSI all round and that feels good and helps the MPG.

 

I would like to try 42 or even 45 PSI all round but it would be potentially dangerous I reckon and could not forgive myself if something bad happened. 

 

On 15/03/2019 at 07:52, wyx087 said:

The hatchback and 7 seat option is really enticing.

 

If money is no issue, I'd get a silver Model Y AWD long range with premium interior and 7 seats, but small aero wheels of course.

7 seat option not being offered in UK for foreseeable future according to Tesla showroom person. But other than that, I've placed an order for mid-night silver Y AWD long range, with smaller 19inch aero wheels of course.

 

But instead of June delivery, I've asked to be pushed back for Berlin factory ones. Hope is that they are better tuned for UK roads than MIC ones. The Model Y I test drove (back to back between 3 and Leaf) felt strange, more body roll than Leaf ("tossed about" as reviewer puts it), and doesn't deal pot holes as well as 3 or Leaf.

 

Was going to wait to test drive German ones before placing order, but the recent Model 3 price increase spooked me. Tesla are known to honour the order price even  after price increases.

@wyx087did the cars you were driving show the tyre pressures on the screen or did you know if they were at a sensible and safe pressure before road testing?

Too many peoples impressions of cars handling are based on cars that roll out of dealerships with ridiculous pressures.

There has never enough journalists or bloggers that actually check just what they are driving and then name and shame who handed the cars over as they were.

Yes, very good point. I didn't think to check tyre pressure. I also wasn't sure how to do it on Tesla's recently updated v11 interface....

 

I'm also hopeful I can get Berlin built Model Y with 4680 battery towards end of the year or beginning of next year. The Skoda old boy still has plenty of life left, got a road trip to Edinburgh planned for summer.

Fair comparisons are what is more often needed.

Cold start and pre heat or not and heading off and how far they actually go.

 

I will forever be surprised that those that say bigger wheels affect efficiency keep ordering in or buying cars with them if they go on longer trips.

Do they really think anyone cares how big their cars wheels are on an EV?

 

Do 

 

 

 

Saw one in the flesh at the weekend. Looks OK, a bit tall for the width but a model 3 on steroids is a fair comment.

 

Incidentally the first 22 plate I've seen.

 

Yes, ugly buggers. If it were for me only, I'd have gone LFP 3 and saved £12k or so. But it's replacing the Octavia as family long range car, so it needs the load carrying capability. Also with Dad near 70, and Mum doesn't drive much, longer trips on the road would be easier if we all go in 1 car. So rear size is important.

 

Basically, I'm disappointed with Model 3, it's a downgrade from Octavia in interior space.

Edited 4 April, 20224 yr by wyx087

 

 

Standard range rear wheel drive Model Y is now available to order.

 

It's suspected that this will be LFP battery. Very good IMHO: it's safer, it doesn't use questionable materials and you can keep it charged at 100% daily.

Only question is, where will it come from? The estimated delivery range is exactly the same as the Performance. Latter is expected to come from Berlin factory.


My ideal Model Y had always been: LFP battery, Berlin built, 7 seat capacity with aero wheels. But I think my £56k for Blue LR is excellent value at £3k more vs this standard range rear wheel drive version. Not sure I'd order a LR with current prices vs SR.

 

 

 

Also, thanks to that video referencing a blobfish. I changed my order from Grey to blue.

Edited 26 August, 20223 yr by wyx087

Picked up my Model Y LR on Saturday from Staines-upon-thames delivery location: 

 

A lot of cars parked in a dusty car park. Many car wash person going around cleaning seemly random cars, probably the ones about to be delivered. All is well with my one, nice and clean when collecting.

Go to reception, quick glance at driving license and I was asked to sign for delivery. I wanted to inspect the car first, so the person unlocked the car remotely and waited for me to finish with inspection. Once I was happy, I went back to him and signed for the car. Then drove home, nice and simple.

There's 7 days / 100 miles to report anything. No rattles. That afternoon, I gave the car a blast of water and very detailed wipe-down. No condensation in lights, seal issue or paint defect that I can see.

Only downside I can say is that given the empty parking spaces further down the lot, cars doesn't need to be parked like regular car park. They could have parked the cars further apart to allow easier inspection.

 

 

 

The ride on standard 19inch is softer than my 18inch Octavia. But there's more sideways movement on large one-side bumps. I'd still say Leaf deals with large pot-holes slightly better. But on faster roads with clear markings, this is a pleasure to drive, or rather, sit and monitor. 

 

I've experienced 2 or 3 unexpected braking but all instances due to TACC picked the a car on the side rather than the car I've been following. No unexplainable "phantom braking" yet. I'm learning which type of road can smoothly use TACC and auto-steer. This car is said to be vision based, no radar, so completely different to radar only ACC on my Skoda.  Also need to see if I tweak the warnings, there were a few instances where the car deemed avoiding parked cars and driving on the center line is incorrect and beeped at me, which makes my passengers unhappy and nervous. 

 

Integrates well with Home Assistant and I also spun up TeslaMate for trip logging. So far it's averaging ~3.5mi/kWh over its first 120-ish miles, even mix of careful local roads, spirited driving on back roads and motorways. 

 

Overall, very happy with the car. With Tesla I can now sign up for Octopus Intelligent for 6 hours of 7.5p off-peak AND more hours should I plug in the car at low SoC and request high SoC over a single night, just need to hand over charging to Octopus. The car is also able to trickle charge at any power level, I think I can also use Home Assistant to charge as low as 1 amp and trickle charge via excess solar (once I get around programming it). 

Were the tyres set at a sensible / safe pressure and the TPMS? 

15 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Were the tyres set at a sensible / safe pressure and the TPMS? 

Yes, tyres were a hair more than correct pressure, 43-44 PSI. I'm reduced it down to 41-42 PSI and TPMS reads 42 PSI all round when I checked after drive home. 42 is the recommended pressure. 

I've read should be okay at 40 PSI (no uneven wear), which will probably soften up the ride even more. 

UK price cuts:

£45k for RWD MY
£53k for LR MY
£60k for Perf MY

£43k for RWD M3
£51k for LR M3
£58k for Perf M3

 

Are ultrasonic sensors worth £2000? Not sure, but that's the difference between my car (has it) and current cars getting delivered (not have). Not too hung up about price cut personally, but would not have been happy if I paid £58k for a MY LR last week. 

 

 

 

The "SR" RWD MY is a bargain IMHO. 

 

It doesn't have any features cut, still just as spacious, it has slightly shorter range that most people only need once a blue moon, it accelerates faster than most people needs. 

3 hours ago, wyx087 said:

The "SR" RWD MY is a bargain IMHO. 

 

It doesn't have any features cut, still just as spacious, it has slightly shorter range that most people only need once a blue moon, it accelerates faster than most people needs. 

 

But was is the current price and is there going to be another big cut in the UK as there is 5th, 6th, or 7th cut I gather in many markets as well as they still get Model 3 for £36k now and Model Ys for less than $40k, that is less than £30k for a new base model Model Y !!!.   I will give it until September and hopefully get it thru salary sacrifice but it must be a nightmare for dealers as the price of their used stock must be slipping and therefore PCP and salary sacrifice prices may not move as much as sliding new prices suggests as the residuals must be not lowering as much as a percentage with that end of PCP value being much lower.

 

One could even imagine some PCP business going bust as the end of PCP value will be a fraction of what was originally estimated. 

 

And what is happening to TESLA values, which Musk etc is driving down RRP/Sale price, is pushing other manufacturers to follow suit or lose sales and this, some predict, will be the beginning of the end for many, if not virtually all, of the traditional manufacturers we have known for the last decades and  century.

 

Edited 21 April, 20233 yr by lol-lol

It's a price war that only Tesla can afford to participate. I personally don't feel anything for traditional manufacturers who resisted the move to electrification. So I'd say "it's about time! You've chosen.... poorly".

 

UK demand (thus price) is linked to demand in other RHD countries and China. They all come from Shanghai and it's a simple matter of diverting production for Tesla. So we'll have to wait China price cuts plus weakening of demand in other LHD countries.

But I think we can be very sure a fire-sale is planned for end of quarter on all "inventory" cars. Not sure how leased vehicle fit into that....

8 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

It's a price war that only Tesla can afford to participate. I personally don't feel anything for traditional manufacturers who resisted the move to electrification. So I'd say "it's about time! You've chosen.... poorly".

 

UK demand (thus price) is linked to demand in other RHD countries and China. They all come from Shanghai and it's a simple matter of diverting production for Tesla. So we'll have to wait China price cuts plus weakening of demand in other LHD countries.

But I think we can be very sure a fire-sale is planned for end of quarter on all "inventory" cars. Not sure how leased vehicle fit into that....

 

Nice one. love the ref to Indiana J 3.................

 

RHD car production is oft an issue, hence countries with RHD cars get their deliveries later and possibly as a cost premium, KPMG once worked it out at just over 6%, ouch.

Still cannot wait until Model 3 and then Model Y retail at under £40k especially as I do not think we will see the Model 2 until next year probably.

 

Sorry to see the Spacex craft explode 4 mins after take off, thank God unmanned, probably get it right next time.  Elon is certainly a disruptor but is what the world needs to take a proper leap forward rather than the fairy steps unimaginative most Western companies show themselves to be. 

 

Model 2 wouldn't happen for a few years, then a few more years for RHD market.

 

 

Also worth adding, all Model Y's come with matrix headlight hardware. With latest 2024.8 update, all cars now have adaptive matrix headlight feature like Audi's.