I had to change my drivers seat in my MY20 VRS because it was crippling me (bad hips) I have an Audi S3 seat in at the moment and it's bearable, the Skoda seat is heated and the Audi one is the same, neither are electrically adjustable, they plug layout is different for whatever reason other than the airbag which is plugged in and is fine, the rest of the wiring is plugged differently.

I've asked Sasha and she's too busy just now to help out, can anyone on here assist with wiring advice so I can attempt it myself or pit me onto someone who could make me an adapter loom?

This isn't a debate about whether the Skoda seats are good or bad, just a simple request for advice with regard to wiring, my current problem is because of my hips and the Audi seats have more padding on the base bolsters.

Any help or advice would be very much appreciated.

 

Cheers

 

MarkC

Did you take any pics?  do the plugs physically fit each other but wiring is wrong or are plugs completley different?

 

It maybe worth looking at Kufatec or ebay ... there are retrofit harnesses available but unsure you will find one direct plug and play.  It maybe a case of getting relevant plug and unpicking the wires and putting them in correct plug terminal.

 

How many wires are going into the plug on the car and how many wires are on the plug on the seat?  Same number or different amount.  Without Electric seats there will be at a guess  2 wires for seat heating, 2 wires for the sensor that detects someones sat in the seat, rear footwell lighting. 

 

I havent got the answer, just trying to pint in right direction

1 hour ago, ScoutCJB said:

Did you take any pics?  do the plugs physically fit each other but wiring is wrong or are plugs completley different?

 

It maybe worth looking at Kufatec or ebay ... there are retrofit harnesses available but unsure you will find one direct plug and play.  It maybe a case of getting relevant plug and unpicking the wires and putting them in correct plug terminal.

 

How many wires are going into the plug on the car and how many wires are on the plug on the seat?  Same number or different amount.  Without Electric seats there will be at a guess  2 wires for seat heating, 2 wires for the sensor that detects someones sat in the seat, rear footwell lighting. 

 

I havent got the answer, just trying to pint in right direction

Hi there, thanks for the reply, yes I have loads of pics, the plugs are different other than the airbag, there are 11 wires on both the Audi seat and the Skoda seat/car.

I would be more than happy just to pick the wires out and fit to the relevant plugs.

I'll attach the pics of the Audi and Skoda plugs, Audi first (4 plugs)

Edited 10 September, 20205 yr by esoxecosse

Skoda seat

So the Skoda seat has 3 plugs?  Is it possible to follow the wiring at all on old seat, see what it connects to, identify the wire colours on the plugs, do same on Audi seat then buy the correct plug and change the wires over?

I dont know the answer but just thinking about it now:

 

2 wires footwell lamp

2 wires base heated Seat

2 wires backrest heated seat

2 wires sensor to detect someones sat in seat

2 wires airbag

That would leave 1 unknown

 

I have always found the VRS seats very supportive as I have issues with my S.I. joint. I am sure you have spent many hours trying different settings and positions to no avail.

Have you thought about getting the VRS seat re upholstered whilst out and reinforced to your liking?

It should be easy enough with a multimeter and following some cables to components. Just leave the airbag and yellow connector well alone, you know that fits already.

 

Work on the basis that for the Audi seat: yellow airbag, black occupancy sensor, red is power motors (you don't have) plus footwell light, green is seat heating.

 

Trace back (or put 12v across the contacts) the 2x wires in the red connector to confirm footwell light, and trace the light in your Skoda seat back to the large connector block. It'll be a pair of the narrower gauge cables.

Black occupancy sensor has two cables in both Skoda and Audi, just using different connector blocks. It's a make/break circuit depending on whether the seat is occupied so the order probably doesn't matter, but I'd go for yellow<->yellow/green being equivalent

You are left with four wires in the green block to match up with four remaining cables in the large black Skoda block. You will have a pair of heavier duty cables (brown & purple in the Skoda block and looks to be brown stripe and purple stripe in the Audi seat?) that will almost certainly be 12V supply and Earth for the heat mat, use your multimeter on the car loom to work out which is which. Two narrower gauge cables left that will be trigger wires for turning on/setting or sensing heat level. I'd do some research on wire colours for both the Skoda and the Audi examples you have before gambling with these, ETKA online should have the necessary wiring diagrams.

To do the switch neatly You'll be wanting to get connector block 8E0 972 710 to fit to your Audi seat to the Skoda loom. If the Audi cables have the wrong terminals, it looks like this connector block uses very common JPT and JT terminals (if this picture from Aliexpress is anything to go by).

 

1 hour ago, Ecomatt said:

I have always found the VRS seats very supportive as I have issues with my S.I. joint. I am sure you have spent many hours trying different settings and positions to no avail.

Have you thought about getting the VRS seat re upholstered whilst out and reinforced to your liking?

Hi there, it's the base that's the problem, the bolsters don't have much padding and it feels like I'm sitting on bars on either side, I did consider the re upholster but thought it easier just to change the seat, the Audi seat does have a lot more padding and is fine just not wired up properly.

Thanks to all who've taken the time to help me out, it really is much appreciated, I'm fortunate enough to have the Audi passenger and Skoda drivers seat to mess around with and trace wires.

 

Cheers

MarkC

6 hours ago, esoxecosse said:

Thanks to all who've taken the time to help me out, it really is much appreciated, I'm fortunate enough to have the Audi passenger and Skoda drivers seat to mess around with and trace wires.

 

Cheers

MarkC

 

I think thats the best option, track and trace 

9 hours ago, esoxecosse said:

Hi there, it's the base that's the problem, the bolsters don't have much padding and it feels like I'm sitting on bars on either side, I did consider the re upholster but thought it easier just to change the seat, the Audi seat does have a lot more padding and is fine just not wired up properly.

I would consider the reupholster as they can install a firmer base and better quality foam. Plus you would have no issues with connectivity.  My ocd on having different seats in a car would drive me mad 🤪