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Oil consumption after cam chain and valve change

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I have had my car for 14 months now, a Fabia mk2 Combi 2011, HtP 12V, CGPA engine.

Treated it well, until I parked uphill, no parking brake, and First gear in. That apparently made the engine "turn backwards" and slackening the chain tensioner..The car has gone 16000km until now. When I started it, it went into Limp mode..could hardly drive it. Conclusion, the sprocket had jumped a tooth. Resulting in minor valve damage.

VaG workshop said its not worth fixing, labor costs more then the car.

Spoke to a local garage, they wanted half the price of the car.

I ordered 12 new valves, valve seals, 6 valve guides, new oil gasket, new block gasket with all seals, new campaign kit with sprockets and tensioner. New head bolts, new aux belt with tensioner. NO Water pump!. New oil with filter.

They had the car for more than one week..(while it was in, I slipped and fractured my right arm).

I got it back, and could not drive it for a month..but noticed that debries was in the water cooling system, and the thermostat was always open and it would take almost 6 mile to heat (was changed 6 months ago). Had another garage empty the system and refill,  but, problem still there.

Have now driven the car for 2000km, and after only 1000km (621mile) I noticed that the oil was way LOW, .refilled 1 liter of oil. I drove additional 621 mile, and again missing almost 1 liter of oil!

 

Not dripping oil anywhere that I can se.

No blue or white smoke.

Exhaust smells like s#it, even when car been running for 1 hour.

RpM at idle at 950..bit high?

Gasoline consumption at 58.85 mpg

 

Any ideas what might have gone wrong?..I loved my car for 1 year minus 20 days...I would like to love it again:-)

Ps , the garage did not have the tool to change the valve Guides! That they told me when the car was done...

 

Before the cam chain replacement, it would NOT even need a dropp of oil when driven 15000km. I now know I need to change oil at 9000km...

 

Sorry for my poor English, living I  Sweden. 

 

Travelling distance does sound just a little far to warm up, although that may depend on outside temperature. I am thinking if the garage failed to change a certain part, for any real reason, they firstly should have not undertaken the work, secondly, purchased the equipment to do it as they had started the work or thirdly, advised you of this midway through so as you were aware of this. Returning the car with part of the job not done, is pure negligence. They took the money and ran! I would assume to finish off the job would almost certainly involve removing half of what they supposedly fixed and so I am thinking if they cannot compete the task, you SHOULD be able to make them pay for another garage who can! 

Above all this, I think you need to go back and tell them they have messed up the job and the car is clearly using too much oil. 

The unfortunate downside to all this, is that you, for obvious reasons, could not inform them of the issue in "Good time: And since enough time has passed for them to say you should have come back sooner, even though you may well have only traveled a thousand miles or so. They will say you either left the car to rot or something else has happened, unless they are a decent, respectable outfit, which from the onset, does not sound like it! 

Take the car back, show them evidence of your injury and inability to drive, explain the oil loss issue and suggest they re-do or at the very least, inspect the work they undertook. If they do not co=operate, suggest to them you may seek legal help and perhaps your country's version of trading standards. In the UK, we have what is called Trading Standards office and they help protect the public from people who undertake repairs or sales of items that are substandard. I would think Sweden has the same kind of thing. Most dealers/garages do not want the issue of these trading standards officials poking their noses in as it could cost the dealers fortunes and give them a bad reputation. There is a slight issue with having someone else change the coolant so it might be worth keeping quiet about that, unless they spot it. They will say someone else has tampered and therefor caused the issue. It kind of sounds like you went to a VAG garage but I am unsure if you mean that, a main dealer or someone who specialises in VAG vehicles or if you went to just a "Garage" That repairs cars. A genuine dealer or even a specialist should almost certainly have had the correct tools. I am wondering if they thought the guides had no issue and are fiddly to do, so thought they would rather leave them. If they just said they did not do them as they looked good, again, they would have opened themselves up for trouble as they may still be the issue.

 

It is sometimes noticable that a vehicle uses a little more oil after an overhaul but this should settle down once the work has bedded in. I don't think this is your issue. Gas miles sounds ok, RPM not terrible but that oil MUST be going somewhere!

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Thank you for a good answer. They know for sure I broke my arm, since they saw me (and my driver). It took me three days after the car was finished until I could get someone to drive it from the garage. Noticed directly that the car would not heat...(usually it would heat within 2km when minus 10 Celsius (sub freezing).

(It was 5 Celsius plus when getting car). 

I called them, they told me" maybe the thermostat need changing".

Told him that it was pretty new...he told me that the sensor maybe is bad (that wa also changed during the thermostat, One piece).

Then he told me that maybe the water pump needs changing...for extra cash.

But car is not over heating..so doubt that.

 

I want to go back to him, but I want to pretend knowing stuff..so he don't talk me over...He will say that " Nothing we have done can cause this" and blame it on the chain jump?

 

They must have made a compression test when done right? Or dose that not show anything?

 

Any suggestions where the oil is going? Where should I look? Please give me advice. Maybe I should have scrapped the car and lost 5000£, instead of fixing.. and losing much more.

 

Did he convert my petrol car into I Diesel car running on Motor oil?

 

Did he install a tele porter into the engine that transport my fresh oil into his garage?

 

The garage was recommended by a friend (died in covid 20 days ago) of my father (They work with VaG cars mainly, and also do oil change on other brands.

 

Is my car gonna pass the MOT in this condition...

 

Any help would be great...

 

"trading standards"= ARN in Sweden, won't work without a Lawyer...and time from my side. I have a 3 month baby and a 2 year old..so spare time is not available :-)

 

 

Sounds like you are caught between w rock and a hard place, as they say in America. Given all the issues, I think I would just go back and get them to look at it again or perhaps go elsewhere, get a reputable guy to fix it, filling him/her in on the ins and outs of what happened and ask them for non-biased opinion of whether the first guy bodged the job or you just got unlucky. If budged, ask the new fixer if they would be willing to write this down and then go back to the original guy and ask for some of the cost of repairing the bodge. If just bad luck at least you will have a running car and should not experience further issues. I would have thought it unlikely to cost less then sourcing, buying and changing insurance, etc for a different car and at least you will know it to be sound. As for the MOT, If it is the same as the UK, it will need to pass an emissions test and have no visible smoke. That can only be ascertained by looking for smoke and then testing the emissions on a gas analyser machine so the best bet might be to go to a testing station and ask them just to check for you and pay them just for that check, before committing to a proper test. That will be just between you and the garage so no pass, no fail, just knowledge. Here, (UK) an MOT is around £50 so I recon they will test it for around a tenner. That will most likely go in the testers back pocket, if its a small, local shop.

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