& now i have all this in front of me and no need to put a finger to the screen to the left as changing anything to see is on the wheel, stalk or i-drive shifter or switches below the centre screen.

There is even a heads up display which i have disabled.  I drove the new Countryman with just the centre display and really disliked not have the speed in front of me.

Edited 12 April, 20242 yr by Rooted

On 11/04/2024 at 15:20, Winston_Woof said:

can I just point out that the concept of a central dash/infotainment system is nothing new not is the idea of having nothing in front of the driver (ala Tesla not the above pic)

Yeah, but EVs do it ugly.... real ugly!

Edited 12 April, 20242 yr by Ttaskmaster

2 hours ago, Ttaskmaster said:

Yeah, but EVs do it ugly.... real ugly!

 

This is pretty I think

 

 

Where as this is really plain.....  (My VRSs mark 1 and 2 were slightly better).

 

^^^ Those are cars no sign of their dash.

Nobody is particularly saying that central dashes are new but central dashes with everything on them and controlled by touch are and that's what people are saying are the devil incarnate...

What gets me is the cars that have the touch screen does not appear to be any less a distance than a fully outstretched arm and finger distance away from a driver position as the sit back in their seat holding a steering wheel and driving.

They need to lean forward and over to the left, lifting their back off the seat unless they are the kind with the seat right forward because of short legs or just the odd position i see some driving cars adopting. 

 

At least Black Cabs have their meter screens back near the driver.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 13 April, 20242 yr by Rooted

I read this morning of Volvo (Geely) suspending sales of vehicles and giving compensation or buying back.

Software issues, charging issues,  safety issues basically.

 

This is very very much the issue with the latest of vehicles, BEV or ICE. Computer says no. 

Or can not even communicate with the vehicle.

When the screen is where the driver has to do even basic stuff to be able to drive the car then total failure is really really as issue.

Then not being able to charge an EV is 'Play stopped'. 

 

  At least they appear to be a bit better at doing something than the VW Group. 

 

 

Edited 2 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Glad you brought this up as I had a sit in one at the weekend. Really quite nice and down in size from the ID.4. I was doing a bit of research yesterday to see how it stacked up and these software problems did not appear in any search. I think not at the moment!


PS ID.3 still looks good against newer rivals of similar size. Just the price is daft.

I drove the New Cupra Born VZ last week but only for 6 miles.  Did about 4 standing starts.

I liked very much. 

manually operated "emergency" brakes are much less susceptible (although I accept not immune) from failure (although I'm not sure I've ever heard of one "activating" itself at the wrong time) 

"officially" there is currently one recall for the EX30  so this appears to be voluntary (which is good)

(of course a lot of the symptoms in the Autocar article may be related)

Edited 2 July, 20241 yr by Winston_Woof

Plenty members here with an ICE or Hybrid / PHEV have had their vehicles applying the brakes for no reason they as the driver knew off.  Maybe the BEV,s as well.

Not even a crisp packet, wildlife or reflections. 

VW chose to sort out VW,s or Audi,s before Skoda or SEAT and still have many having issues. 

 

Safety Critical. 

 Full DVLA Recall.

 

Over the air Update is not going to be cutting it.

Maybe a Update from the DVSA / DVLA is what is lacking. 

 

 

Edited 2 July, 20241 yr by Ootohere

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Plenty members here with an ICE or Hybrid / PHEV have had their vehicles applying the brakes for no reason they as the driver knew off.  Maybe the BEV,s as well.

 

 

 

 

 

with the common factor being electronic parking brakes rather than good old fashioned umbrella handles

I've still not recalled any instance of a manual handbrake self deploying (although chances are it has possibly happened)

Wrong.

Possibly happened, and has actually happened.

'I will tell you this boy!' #Rab C. Nesbitt.    & i can tell you why. 

Simply because it happens with Fabia, Scala & Kamiq which do not have e-brakes.

@Winston_Woof  The 'Simply Clever' features people at Skoda / VW Group need a kick up the backside sometimes.

Or rammed up the jacksy hard.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/524884-front-assist-faulty

 

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

@Winston_Woof  The 'Simply Clever' features people at Skoda / VW Group need a kick up the backside sometimes.

Or rammed up the jacksy hard.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/524884-front-assist-faulty

 

Also @Ootohere


That's not the parking brake (which is what was being talked about) self applying itself though is it?

Thats a system which is designed to operate brakes autonomously potentially operating outside its design parameters.

Edited 8 July, 20241 yr by Winston_Woof