I have P0253T version on my unit.

I’m try to update to lastest fimware P0480T, but it gives me error: “Can’t use update container. The current Software Download application is too old.”

What can I do to update? install version 03xx first or there’s no solution without patching?

Thats a train change. You arent suppose to do them. People use mib2 tool for standard unit. Experts on the Skoda site here. Major software hack. There are other people that hack the software and that doesnt work.

Basically the software fixes were on each train so Vag didnt envisage the user jumping trains. 2*, 3*, 4* etc. They are the trains, changing trains isnt suppose to be what you can do and also doing firmware updates as DIY isnt another one. Come mib3 you are definitely shafted although people dig little holes for themselves. You are suppose to stay on the 2* train.

Enable developer mode, patch the unit (using Toolbox) so that it accepts all meta files. Then edit the meta file from the 0480T firmware. Run swdl, making sure to deselect EMERGENCY MAIN & CPU. Perform the update. Once that's done, install the normal firmware with the original meta file over it. Have fun... Alternatively, everything can be done without developer mode and without Toolbox. Only SD Card Update's

Edited 21 February21 Feb by Cairus

It isn't for the inexperienced.

I've just hit up against this too. My cars system had not been updated at all from factory. It was on version 0245 and I have updated to 0253. I was hoping to get postcode navigation search in the update as I had on my mk2 Superb nearly 4 years ago. Will finding out more about how to force this update give me postcode navigation, or am I missing a trick?

Dont make Update when you dont Know what are you doing by Firmware jump

Everyone learns from someplace. Where is a good place to read up on this?

Personal, i never Update a Unit with Firmware 2XX. Change to brick the unit is high

5 hours ago, WesBrooks said:

I've just hit up against this too. My cars system had not been updated at all from factory. It was on version 0245 and I have updated to 0253. I was hoping to get postcode navigation search in the update as I had on my mk2 Superb nearly 4 years ago. Will finding out more about how to force this update give me postcode navigation, or am I missing a trick?

May be missing a trick. Town, street and house number is always more accurate.

Now the postcode entry is more idiosyncratic. I would have to fumble with a mib2 to tell you the process. I dont believe its the firmware its just the cars system is designed around European city zones and American zip codes so you have to go into the screens correctly to make it work. Something about the space... I haven't entered postcodes into it for years but you will find discussions on it. I'd stick to house numbers, street and town.

House numbers are all well and good for residential but often useless for business - especially so smaller or newer ones that are unlikely to be on the POI list.

I've found some advise that you can do postcode via the city entry. Yet to try as I was wrestling with the ottocast adaptor that is refusing to update!

Business have their own postcodes true if they are big enough else they share hence the definition of residential postcodes rather than business ones. The mapping companies either hand place the house holds or business street numbers by hand or use a synthetic way of distributing the "house numbers" along a strip of road. I believe they buy the two end points then use their systems to distribute. You know they have done that where they have a big park in a street and the house numbers run across the park. You see it then its trouble to correct since its past validation.

Then the Here Maps system which was used on the standard and high mib2s only deals in the first six characters so it starts because it was based on the European zone system. So it all gets a bit interesting. Tom Tom took over the mib2 standard so may well have a better process of mapping postcodes to the proxy areas.

I use an Android app, n45e25, to get the exact coordinates if Im being picked then diag them in. Mib2 gives you the on the map which is in degrees, minutes and seconds (DMS). You dial it in.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sands.mapCoordinates.android&hl=en

The app which I'll edit in uses Google maps and Street View or Open Street which gives you a choice of the two views. Open Street better for outdoor activities. Mib2 navigation is really old style satnav which you can start to make look like thd satnav you loved and cherished in old days rather than google maps now.

The dial in destination you save, name and they become destination in the system. You can use POI import programs to population the POIs, save as destinations and keep a couple of cars in synch using that method. I do this for hotels and things, the DMS for adhoc.

Poinspector for important your own POIs in. Roll your sleeves up time. I did document that in English for the programmer with links.

https://poinspect0r.blogspot.com/?m=1

Obviously not something you do on the fly but very exacting to get to the place you want to get to. DMS import and savings as a destination is an old Skoda trick I was told when looking at this. Its how I got all by Copilot address into the mib2 satnav some go back more than 20 years. Washed them though conversion programs. Copilot didn't have an export...

Might be of use.

Edited 5 April5 Apr by Tell

I'll leave this here and post again under a more relevant or new topic if needed.

Yes I remember using gps coordinates on the old Columbus. To be useful this GPS would be functional when I am in areas with no phone data signal. As I can't get online to find a nearest house number or GPS coordinate I'll just settle for hammering in the city name and drive until I have signal and then resume navigation via Android Auto.

I'm hoping the update to 0253 will have resolved some android auto connection issues - to be fair likely caused by the Ottocast Mini Pico. If it has aside from car setup I'm seeing very little value in any Amendsun to Columbus retrofit.

Edit: Yes, I do generally have an A to Z in the car but that isn't great at a street level.

Edited 6 April6 Apr by WesBrooks

Within train updates were supposedly to correct Android Auto issues but documentation isn't provided to the public. Living in poor 4g mountainous region in car sat nav without a data link does and no traffic... if there is a jam you follow everyone else on their Google maps route. Only happened once in 8 years. TMC in mib2 high you can get to work which I use in my car. Mib2 standard is Hobson's choice new maps no TMC or old maps with the Inrix mod worked out by the good Briskoda people.

@WesBrooks

You can get the Files from me, but you need Diagnose Tool for Unlock Developer Mode.

ToolBox you need.

manipulated meta file

And a good User Manual

All is your own risk

Edited 6 April6 Apr by Cairus

12 hours ago, Cairus said:

@WesBrooks

You can get the Files from me, but you need Diagnose Tool for Unlock Developer Mode.

ToolBox you need.

manipulated meta file

And a good User Manual

All is your own risk

& kill your system 😉.

On the UK postcode what happened circa 2016/17 the map version released needed you to take out the space between the outward and inward part of the code... subsequently it was fixed but as I said I look down on people that just use it to find a place by the postcode only 😊. You get neck ache looking either side of the road. It's so last century...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s708SuRAi5o

Example of the entry there just using postcode.

The issue was nothing to do with the firmware but the processing of the files. What ever the issue was it got subsequently fixed. It caused the postcode only people distress at the time.

Presumably the Cairus hack is the one where the backdoor is shoved open since the file will not be signed. No back of signatures at the end. These systems are like early computers they need a boot loader mess that up by jumping trains and you have no way of getting the system to reboot apart from shorting pins inside the unit. Instructions are on the net. Retrofitters offer the service of updating the units across trains saves the heartache 💔 of busting it yourself.

The toolbox is the method a retrofitter would be using except the community wrapped up their methods in a toolbox.

Edited 6 April6 Apr by Tell

@Tell

I Dont need the ToolBox for Firmware Train Jump and without Developer Mode.

This in turn means that the meta file is signed.

Yes thats the fiddled with software that a Polish guy was sending out years ago. People told them to get back on their proper train when it wasn't working correctly. The modded firmware.

That's the issue all these poorly modded firmware about without documentation. The trains themselves have the fixes in them for known bugs so the bug fix is on train, unless it's functionality that isnt on the train, which is why people train jump or just think it's better. Android Auto fixes are on the existing train.

As for any postcode issues, update the maps.

1 hour ago, Tell said:

Ja, das ist die manipulierte Software, die vor Jahren ein Pole verschickt hat. Als sie nicht richtig funktionierte, rieten die Leute ihnen, wieder auf ihre ursprüngliche Software umzusteigen. Die modifizierte Firmware.

Das ist das Problem mit all diesen schlecht modifizierten Firmware-Versionen ohne Dokumentation. Die Züge selbst enthalten die Korrekturen für bekannte Fehler, die Fehlerbehebung ist also im Zug enthalten, es sei denn, es handelt sich um eine Funktion, die nicht im Zug enthalten ist. Genau deshalb wechseln manche Leute zum Zug oder denken einfach, es sei besser. Android Auto-Korrekturen sind im bestehenden Zug enthalten.

Bezüglich etwaiger Probleme mit Postleitzahlen aktualisieren Sie bitte die Karten.

You are wrong.

I Dont have the Firmware

I have done this with a friend from Austria. No Bad Solution