Can anyone out there give me an insight into what the ASR button on the dash board does on the fab vRS, i have looked in the manual but it only talks about esp, abs etc. if anyone knows, could they plase let me know cheers..

Traction Control. ASR button turns it off. ESP is the same but a bit more posh

ahhh, right, thanx for that, handy to know!

stands for "anti-slip regulation" it will cut the engine power if the front wheels are spinning... press the button, and get the light on the dash, and you've disabled the system...

ASR cut's out wheel spin but not by much. If you have it off, a yellow sign appears in between the speedomoeter and rev counter.

Edit. As above.... he got there before me :(

Kool, thanx for that guys, very helpfull

If the light comes on momentarily whilst using the right foot, it is just a warning to let you know that it had to intervene.

The car seems to be more responsive with it off - I turn mine off usually unless it's been raining.

Mine seems to not want to do much when the car wheelspins. It's booked in on the 20th to have it looked at under extended warranty as it's only intervened once in the snow and never since, even in the wet. The wheels just spin.

Am I supposed to let the wheels just spin for a couple of seconds thus lighting up the front tyres before the ASR will do anything? It's embarrasing and chavvy.

Mine seems to not want to do much when the car wheelspins. It's booked in on the 20th to have it looked at under extended warranty as it's only intervened once in the snow and never since, even in the wet. The wheels just spin.

Am I supposed to let the wheels just spin for a couple of seconds thus lighting up the front tyres before the ASR will do anything? It's embarrasing and chavvy.

Why is it? Can't blame the ASR for your wheels spinning.

Err....well, isn't the ASR supposed to STOP the wheels spinning? That's the problem, it doesn't kick in. Traction control that doesn't help the car get traction. Nice.

Even when the wheels spin, the ASR doesn't cut traction completely, and you have to get wheel spin in order for it to cut in.

So yes your correct, it's supposed to stop the wheels from spinning, but that isn't the problem.

Hmm....so are the wheels supposed to go round plenty of times before it actually cuts in? I know the light's supposed to flash on the dash when it kicks in.

I might take it out the next time it rains and light up the front tyres to see if it actually does anything. I just thought it would be a bit more proactive that this.

I drove an X reg BMW 320i with it fitted and that kicked in all the time in the wet, cutting the power at often daft moments. You hardly had to provoke it for it to take action.

Hmm....so are the wheels supposed to go round plenty of times before it actually cuts in? I know the light's supposed to flash on the dash when it kicks in.

Not plenty of times, but enough to provoke it cutting in.

The ASR system will only cut in if it thinks it needs to IIRC depending on throttle action and engine load etc. Some loss of traction will be only natural, its the same as ABS in that a wheel has to lock before it can be released.

Not plenty of times, but enough to provoke it cutting in.

Right that's it.....next time it rains, McRancid's car park here I come.

Nah, I'll try somewhere more remote. It's embarassing spinning the wheels. Looks like you have no control or you're just being a ****. .

Try letting off the accelerator then.

Try letting off the accelerator then.

Um, judging by that comment you've not read the whole thread. I WANT my ASR to kick in to make sure it's working. Trouble is, in order to test it you've got to spin the wheels (quite a lot it seems on the Fabia) which is embarassing.

my asr kicks in all the time. lights up in 1st 2nd and even third if the road is really slippy.

Can it not be adjusted using vag com?

I once put some 185/80r14 rims on the back while i got two new tyres and the difference in rolling radius made the asr cut in constantly.....the asr system must have thort that because the front wheels are turning faster than the rear, the front wheels were spinning up.

might be a possible wheel speed sensor at fault with yours chris?

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john

I think the ASR cuts in late to give you a chance to sort the problem out yourself before cutting the engine power. I have had the light blinking at me at pretty scary speeds in the wet on corners and at the same time, I am aware that there is wheelsping building up a little. Easing off the gas a little in these circumstances is far preferable to having the engine cut and the resulting weight transfer that could trigger:eek:

Personally, I can see the point of the brake assisted part of the system helping to quell wheelspin in low gear situations, but I like the way it has a loose reign at higher speeds.

Chris

it slows you down i never have it on

ASR on the vRS appears to be able to cope with a few conditions, but when you're booting it it will still spin a fair amount.

ESP is not a posh version of ASR, it's a LOT more than that. Also ESP doesnt appear to be as annoying in how much it kicks in, although it still does.

ASR is a pain if you're trying to pull out of a T-junction a little bit enthusiastically, as it seems to cut power just at the wrong time, i.e. too late, as you've regained grip and need the power to come back in.

With ESP that happens a lot less frequently.

Best thing to do is to drive in such a way that the ASR does not actually kick in, or turn it off if you must. I found the ASR kicks in so early that with it off you can usually get better traction in the dry and drive off smoothly and quickly. With ESP, I dont bother turning it off unless I really want to go for it very hard.

Cant undertand how ASR can make anyone slower? In triggering it, you are already losing traction to the extent that you could be going faster, so blaming the ASR is not strictly correct.

We have no LSD on these cars, so unless you feather the throttle as soon as the wheelspin starts, you will be losing drive. Wait for the ASR to kick in and possibly you lose even more time. You cannot overdrive the car with ASR on, but you can drive at optimum with it on or off and it wont intervene. I have never had any form of traction control on a FWD car before, so I suppose I got used to working without it.

Chris

ASR on the Fabia to me seems to kick in too late, i.e. when you've already lost traction quite badly. If you let it take over and keep your foot in the same position, it will cut the power hard and then only slowly let it come back in again.

If you lift off, the power goes completely.

It's kinda weird. Best bet is to drive in a way that doesnt need ASR, or get ESP which doesnt kick in as early.

A Quaife has helped for sure

ASR just makes you slower if it's kicked in, if you drive 'properly' then it shouldn't kick in. Problem is that even if you loose traction for the smallest fraction of time, say the wheel skips, it kills the power. ESP is much more forgiving

ASR on the Fabia to me seems to kick in too late, i.e. when you've already lost traction quite badly. If you let it take over and keep your foot in the same position, it will cut the power hard and then only slowly let it come back in again.

If you lift off, the power goes completely.

It's kinda weird. Best bet is to drive in a way that doesnt need ASR, or get ESP which doesnt kick in as early.

A Quaife has helped for sure

ASR just makes you slower if it's kicked in, if you drive 'properly' then it shouldn't kick in. Problem is that even if you loose traction for the smallest fraction of time, say the wheel skips, it kills the power. ESP is much more forgiving

I think it cuts in late to give you a chance to sort things out yourself. I would really not like it to intervene without warning. I find that I can have the ASR light flickering on much of the time on a wet B road and not notice the effects of the system at all. Having said that, I start to feather the throttle as the revs start to break free, not wait for them to flare, so the sytem never sees a gross loss of control.

The Quaife is what these cars need.

As you said, drive in a way that does not trigger the ASR, it is faster that way. Not sure if I like the idea of ESP. I quite like the car to be a bit sideways sometimes and dont like the idea of some electronics thinking it knows what I want to do and taking over. Would it ruin the car at the limit?

Chris