Anyone seen the latest motorsport news?

Full group A Skoda Fabia vRS TDi 'diesel'. Built in 2006 to full international spec for Northern Ireland's largest Skoda retailer

£36,500 :eek:

Got a link

no, its in the motorsportnews paper

might be in their classifieds on the website (if they have one)

just checked doesnt seem to be on their website

Seems a lot of cash, but it depends on the level of work put in I suppose.

For a 1-2 year old group A that seems reasonable.

Group A cars are allowed a lot of modifications, so the cost of build could easily be 50k.

I know that the going rate to build a group N evo is around 30k, plus the going rate to buy a new car. To build one to a good competitive group A spec is more like 60k.

What is the grouping relevance. Is group A essentially full blown WRC?

Group N is relatively stock, whereas Group A allows more major mods, essentially getting towards WRC yes, but that is a different class again IIRC.

I know that all the top cars in rallying were group A until '98 when the FIA created WRC, when all teams apart from Mitsubishi went to the WRC regs, but Mitsubishi stayed with a group A spec car, and managed to win several world rally championships with Tommi Makinen driving.

4 Wheel drive Jase?

4 Wheel drive Jase?

I would very much doubt it as that would not be allowed within the regs as a fabia was never produced with 4wd.

doesnt actually say

says

huge spares invertory including spare engine, gearbox, proflex suspension, 36 wheels and tires, complete front cradle, shafts etc,

this is a proper fully sorted out car offered at the fraction of the development costs

Thats £3000 worth of suspension

Around £7000 of wheels and tires (new cost)

budget a couple of grand for the engine, and the same for the box minimum.

You can see how it soon ads up.

Even if this car had been completed yesterday, tested to ensure it all works and then sold on you would expect to get a return in the region of 50-75% the cost of the build.

The only rally car to maybe better this is an ex works WRC car, assuming cost of build at £500,000, a 1 year old car will usually get £400,000 ish.

Thats £3000 worth of suspension

Around £7000 of wheels and tires (new cost)

budget a couple of grand for the engine, and the same for the box minimum.

You can see how it soon ads up.

Even if this car had been completed yesterday, tested to ensure it all works and then sold on you would expect to get a return in the region of 50-75% the cost of the build.

The only rally car to maybe better this is an ex works WRC car, assuming cost of build at £500,000, a 1 year old car will usually get £400,000 ish.

or you get them from Ireland for much cheapness

around £250,000 i believe

This is probably one of John Mulhollands Fabia's. He is Skoda dealer in Northern Ireland. They entered Rally Ireland in a Fab vRS Diesel (200bhp). Pacenotes did a write up last month on Skoda motorsport including this car and a few other very fast Skoda's. Rallyinfo my ad more to this if he logs onto the forum.

From Wikipedia page Group A - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Quite a bit of useful info I thought:

Under Group A in the World Rally Championship, the cars used were modified road cars, often based on turbocharged, four wheel drive versions of small cars such as the Lancia Delta Integrale, Toyota Celica GT-Four, Subaru Impreza WRX and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. In order to be homologated, manufacturers must produced 5,000 units worldwide, and then in 1994, the numbers had been reduced to 2,500. The cars are further modified for greater power and torque, and fitted with suspension and tires specifically suited to the conditions of the specific rally, which may take place entirely on bitumen roads, different consistencies of gravel and dirt roads, and even snow-covered roads on some rallies held in northern Europe. Group A is still used as the basis for most rally competitions around the world, but the most competitive cars are limited-production prototypes, known as World Rally Cars and Super 1600. The last WRC car to use the old Group A homologation requirement was the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI.

Steve