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TESLA is so far ahead in terms of production technology, where they have their factories ie the Shanghai mega factory, as well as Berlin and US. It is not price gauging but rather TESLA reducing the price becuase they can. The still make a profit, yes they see other car manufacturers are making EVs at a loss and TESLA just keep on forging ahead until the other car companies wither and die. It is not a evil plan just capitalism and the builder of a better mouse trap prevails. Your leap to talking about London ULEZ I find the "logic" not logical. There are tens of thousands of (petrol) cars for £1k or £2k never mind £3,£4,£5k that are stacked on SE England car lots. A petrol of 20 years ago is probably London ULEZ Euro 4 compliant. My London (Heathrow) office is in the ULEZ zone so the 100 or so staff there have the issues and many are not massively paid and hopefully they all find away to comply. The ULEZ zone is one tool that helps tackle the London pollution which major expert bodies have said shortens the lives of 10,000 Londoners, and visitors (?) each year. Worth a bit of car swapping I reckon. People in the countryside can run the dirty diesels which is exactly where diesels are suited to and not in an urban environment in my view. The UK has an acute problem with a minimum wage which is below liveable, especially in London. That is what we get with a UK government of the current persuasion. As they tough it out. Looks likely to change in about a year and we can see how they perform but they will be inheriting three times the debt that the Cons did in 2010 so a pickle of giga size.

Rather than Sales price myself, like probably hundreds of thousands of UK employees, are looking at the monthly payments through a salary sacrifice scheme. We are suppose to be engaging with the Octopus salary sacrifice scheme, who can apparently put through second hand cars through the scheme now which is much under reported as a major change, chance of getting a really tidy Model S, 100 battery or maybe a 90, would be my ideal ride, low mileage although insane mileage ones, 100k, 150k, still seem to be like almost new. How can any humdrum car company like VW, BMW, Mercedes compete with a company that makes space rockets that re-land back to earth. And in all this most humans are not aware that the TESLA car company is just the magicians distraction to TESLA coming in and taking over electricity supply to both houses and cars.

A trait of the EVs being launch each year, nd comparing their price and range comparatively year after year, and especially TESLA who drive the price and make what is destined to be the world's best selling model of a car ie the Model Y, appears to be getting incrementally better by several percent each year ie cheaper but better range performance. The TESLA model 3, launched 5 years ago now, was a benchmark and cost to consumers in some markets now dropped below £25k, when government (US etc) subsidies applied. New "Highland" model is projected to be even cheaper in real terms as it benefits from cheaper battery pack that have higher energy density plus over 20 other major technical features. Hopefully price of model 3 will now fall below £40K, current cheapest new one is...... £40.5K https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/m3/order/LRW3228_f2b9e0c0f820c726a3da366f161b6647?titleStatus=new&redirect=no#overview TESLA state and show working how running an EV like the model 3 costs hundred of pounds less per month, certainly something I am seeing myself in both fuelling and servicing costs. Days, in more accurately a few years, left for ICE cars as mainstream transport on our roads, some will survive as relics for auto shows but in terms on mile per mile cost, a contest being lost by ICE cars hand over fist to EVS it is becoming clear. e

In litres, or UK gallons, or both, but also preferably a digital rather than analogue displace. VW Group cars are better than some in that at least they continue to show range, kilometers or miles, when the fuel light comes on, and that event is one of the best guides to actual fuel left in the tank, usually, it seems, around 7 litre or a gallon and a half in old money. Renault, for reasons only guessed at, remove the miles left just after the reserve fuel light comes on. Love to know why ? Presumably so you do not get near the dregs of the tank, suck in what could be gunky fuel in the those last dregs. Skoda Fabia VRS would go well below zero miles range ie 15 or more, which is a non-sense, and then one could put over 50 litres in a 45 litre tank if one pressed the little button in the filler month, and it wanted 98 octane fuel so quite a pricy fill up for a little car but then it could also do an indicated 60 mpg when pottering along. 630 miles between fill ups best I got. Wish car manuals made it easier to know what the reserve light actual is telling one how much fuel is left. As with many cars it would stay showing full for at least a hundred miles before moving off the full tank indication on the dial. Even EVs tell drivers a partial story. Western EVs mostly carry a reserve of ten or twenty miles beyond empty and all the ones I know start limiting performance when getting near an empty battery. Chinese cars, not so much. Hydrocarbon fuel has been getting more expensive as Russia and Saudi supply less or supply less or none to certain countries due to embargos. Luckily those with a mixed fleet are going to be benefitting with cheaper electricity as prices continue to fall. Also a factor that bosses, along with their 16% pay rises, are sometimes on company schemes like having fuel cars so effectively are only paying 40 or 45%, or maybe on 20% if using the new £60k ceiling for tax free pension contributions, of the fuel price as a BIK. Fuel cards, I think, do not even pay the published at the petrol station price, think they get a bit of discount. At least UK government still discounting excise duty by the 5p a litre but that could come off as the £200B per year interest on debt starts to bite.

What feature" choose the Vredestein over the Michelin CC2 then ? It was going to be my natural choice using National Tyres 15% off for 4 tyres and may mostly in 2024 sounded a good deal.

Worst of all an EV engine with quite a lot of miles on even 50k or more, oft are well down on power, piston rings leaking, gas output from the tail pipe far worse than when new, and power much less, sometime as little as three quarters or half original figures. That was my experience whilst working on a rolling road for Piper many years ago. Where as an EV just keep trundling along. Its engine/motor not changing ts zero emission year after year, hardly producing any brake dust. Hopefully tyres will get better both as an energy sap and pollution wise.

Knew there was a video with real top speed and range at flet out on the Zoe, Mr Battery Life over in Germany, near the Austrian border. He ran the ZE50 Zoe at top speed all he could ie 145 kph indicated, 144 kph actual which is 88 mph thereabouts and did over 200 kms, ie 125 miles at these speeds, baulked a couple of times by slow lorries, slow cars VW Golf driving miss Daisy etc. Bahh to 133 kph above. Will do about 155-160 kph before it complains motor is overspeeding, fast enough.

Fair result on the Zoe, I will take the 9 seconds to 60 mph, the top speed I suspect is wrong as they probably did not have enough room as 82 mph/ 132 kph is low as 140 kph, 87 mph is what is quoted. I seen 90 mph and I will set it up with GPS speed measurement. Zoe is the range king, or should that be queen and carrying around that big battery has its penalties but I am happy with it overall. Wait out my remaining two years and then the Renault 5 should be in full swing to go along with a TESLA Highland 3.

I would have put money on the mini being faster, how much more HP is it suppose to have ? The Zoe shows a digital figure of power to the motor and is suppose to be 100 kW but I have seen more than 110 kws on it for the odd second or two. Always feels as quick as my VRSs did to about 40 mph but rapid diminishes then. Did see 90 mph on it on the weekend (with a profession driver and on a private me Lud). BMW X5 did looked surprised. Dash show overspeed warning if you get to 100 mph as motor is then spinning at over 11k revs. There must be tricks to get it quicker, at least a second of the 0-60 and three or 4 off the standing quarter.

Sadly my 7.5p per kWH tariff goes on the 16th of September and with the Zoe doing 4.5 miles per Kwh it is chuffing economic. As I said the home chargers are about 90% efficient so a battery full of 52 kWh for the Zoe would have taken about 57 kWh of power from the house at £4.28 and that would give me about 230 miles of range so about 1.86 pence per mile. Just booking my B service with the Zoe which is about half the price of an ICE car service, as was the A service. From 17th of September I will be paying 9.5p for my night time rate so a massive 27% increase but by day time rate is falling from 40p per kWh to 29 p per kWh with Octopus so happy days. LEcky and gas £300 in credit, standing order £125 per month even with charging an EV for 7.5k miles per year, happy days. Good to hear residual values are bouncing back strongly now as dropping to half value in 2 years was a bit shocking but it seems many drivers are seeing the economic sense of an EV in running costs, if they can buy them for a bit less than an new or newish ICE car, particularly as a second car or runaround, unless a TESLA which can do it all of course, charge cheaper, is safer etc etc.

Even the Fire specialist journalist misses out detail ie they say " At the height of the fire, eight engines were in attendance, and a total of six buses were on fire – two electric-hybrid, and four diesel-powered." One presumes the two electric hybrid might be diesel hybrids but they could LNG hybrid or even hydrogen fuel cell hybrids but I thought TfL only had a half dozen of those as I use to deal with sending the fuel cell back to Canada to be refurbed every so often, like a decoke I gather. Nearly all case, I suspect, are poor maintenance, somebody doing something silly like placing a strong heater to dry something out in a place they should not or maybe sabotage ? US has over 100 firemen a year convicted of starting fires according to CBS article.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fires-set-by-firefighters-a-long-standing-problem-experts-say-1.3563183 An arson expert based in California says firefighter arson is a recognized, ongoing problem, but it's difficult to know exactly how common it is because authorities don't keep records. Edward Nordskog's comments come in the wake of a 19-year-old volunteer firefighter being charged on Saturday with 18 counts of arson, for a spate of suspicious fires in and around the town of Mayerthorpe, Alta. The fires included a massive blaze that destroyed the CN trestle bridge. Lawson Schalm, son of a former town mayor, is scheduled to make his first court appearance in Stony Plain provincial court on Wednesday. Nordskog said he tracks serial arson cases. "There's roughly 100 firefighter arsonists convicted every year in North America and all of them are serial arsonists, which means three or more fires," Nordskog said Monday in a telephone interview.

I calculated the energy in my mild hybrid battery in my mild hybrid Arkana which is 0.2 kwh, wow. By my maths my lead acid battery is 12.6v x 70A which is or about 900 wh so about 4.5 times larger than my lead acid battery. The etech clio has a 1.2 kwh lithium battery so slightly larger that the lead acid battery in that car which would be similar to the arkana and in the clio they sit right next to each other beneath the boot floor. So some lithium battery pack in mild and full EV are pretty tiny. Capture PHEV has 9,8 kwh battery I gather, hardly worth plugging in and many will not I presume. The Arkana and even Clio therefore have smaller batteries that my Allpowers and Bluetti portable chargeable batteries. Nowhere hear the half tonne 55 kw hour battery I have in the Zoe. I also suspect some of these "battery" packs are using Ultracapacitors alongside the lithium battery, it what we did in my company's battery division, in fact used capacitors for much, if not all of the start stop driving in the buses we used this tech in. Also we have had solid state batteries for more than a decade, it is not the new tech it is trumpeted as ! Not sure if capacitors are dangerous at all compared to batteries, might give a big spark but not much else I would have thought.

Another night when my EV did not combust,, thanks the Lord. Also two large lithium, one actually lithium iron phosphate to be precise, charged overnight, neither exploded. Four smaller 100 to 400 wh lithium chargers did not explode and one power bank of around 30wh. Nor did any of the 4 family lithium battery phones or two tablets. 750w 36v e-Scooter with the 3 12v lithium batteries survived the night as well. Sure I have missed out several lithium devices. Took my lithium last night and feeling happy this morning. (Not really but this element does have multiple uses.)

Might be some cable or cables. MY Iona just come off can house 7000 crew and passengers. If each person needed 3 kws, ship has lots of facilities, that would be off the order of 20 mws. Equivalent of 60 or so of the fastest ev chargers. Southampton can have half a dozen cruise ships at the same time. All for stopping hydrocarbon pollution in cities. Be great when it can be done but would take some infrastructure building and cruise liner and merchant ships would not want to pay 79p a kWh compared to their excise duty free LNG or diesel. Ships already have to switch low sulphur fuel as they approach the uk, eu. Got my vote to switch off hydrocarbon burning engines, perhaps we will see some more ships with batteries, investors act for their lecky and even motive power in UK waters.

It is deemed a good moved for shipping . The company that is due to be my employers parent company shortly, CMA, is buying fleets of LNG container ships. Also similar sized cruise ships ie circa 200,000 tonnes, just come off one after a cruise, is also LNG. Store about 3600 metres cubed of gas ie about 3000 tonnes feed in to 4 medium speed piston engines each around 20000 hp I gather.I Emissions are about three quarters of a diesel fuelled ship. Someway off going lecky but expect it will happen. Replenishment at sea like Royal Fleet Auxilary I can foresee.

Difficult to find a roughly equivalent two similar hp/kw versions of the same car. Focus, the 140 hp looks like it was discontinued couple of years ago. NOX on the 125 hp petrol about a third of the diesel, but that was/is 150 hp. Diesel is a bit quicker. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer Model Description Transmission Engine Capacity Fuel Type Powertrain Engine Power (Kw) Engine Power (PS) Emissions NOx [mg/km] FORD Focus Model Year Post 2021.75 1.0 EcoBoost M6 999 Petrol Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) 92 125 14 FORD Focus Model Year Pre 2021.75 2.0 EcoBlue M6 1995 Diesel Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) 110 150 40

"Dave Takes It On" with a good up to minute review......

We can only go by the VCADATA, and other official bodies which are tasked to do the testing, which does tend to show that turbo diesels look to be about twice as bad as petrol turbo for NOX and Total Hydrocarbon emissions THC. I think it is true engines like Jaguar's high specific output petrol engine shows so pretty poor figures ie near the 60 mg/km for NOX compared to many other figures petrol engines but some of their engines are quite good for NOX ie just a fraction of the 60 mg/km limit. I had assumed that Renault were just saving themselves the cost of the turbo sticking with the 1.6 naturally Aspirated engine in many of their ETECH hybrid cars but maybe it is as the non turbo seems to have much less NOX due to the lower maximum gas cylinder temperatures which causes NOX. Constantly learning. Renault diesel Traffic vans are really bad and these are they types of vehicles in cities one can hope are going to be replaced by the likes of the Maxis electric van as being used all day in the cities changing those will make a bigger difference that changing the commuting car of the city workers. Did not know there was a Green NCAP testing organisation just like for safety under EuroNCAP.... https://www.greenncap.com/

Keep the Ami topped up charge, where the regen does not come in and stop the Ami doing more than 45 kph, 28 mph, and you can see 70 kph, 44 mph and even someone in US apparently did 70 mph back hacking the electric motor controller, over 110 kph. But beware, see video below this first one of turn 6 at Monaco ! Not a high speed corning machine. Meant for 14 year olds without a licence.

Not so sure. £10k for a car that does 36 mph. Toyota and all the Japanese manufacturers are toast based on present trajectory. The Chinese, and with TESLA doing their thing too in conjunction with CATL battery tech will sweep up world wide economics and only ultra protectionism will allow them to continue to exist in their own market and those markets that are also not allowing the Chinese and TESLA to flooded the vehicle market with such low cost but good spec vehicle the Japanese and the Western car companies not even to be able to get close on price so like now they will produce EVs at a loss until they go out of business or withdraw to just make vehicle in a narrow category where they can actually make enough money to continue. VW know they must change or die, Stellantis not so much it appear, Renault trying to work more closely with the Chinese as with the Dacia Spring. BMW, Merc and Audi trying to do deals with the Chinese which if they fail better hope for some EU protectionism. Japan and West better hope than aerospace, robotics and those few industries China does not dominate are enough to provide a living.

Chargers filling our EVe are about 90% so 20 kWh from the charger or home lecky system can give 18 kWh of battery charge of there abouts, 3 pin chargers and on-board systems slightly less efficient but not a lot in it. Expensive dc public chargers I only use for 10 or maybe 15 kWh just to get me home with a safe margin.

I think banning pure diesel and petrol cars is a non issue as all vehicles should have some degree of electrical hybrid system. I have been very sceptical on having just a kWh or two of battery and electric motors than just give propulsion of 60 kph or so but it bloody works. Having just added a Clio ETECH to the family stable and it is Impressive. It can be on EV mode 80% in urban scenario. It is obvious to me that Renault just tweak up the amount of battery to continue to drive down emissions. Austral has 2 kWh battery instead of the Clio's 1 kwh, phev Renaults versions have 10 kWh batteries. The EV battery, as energy density improves by 10% per annum and cost down by 20% per annum adding battery to cars with ICE is quite cheap and pays for itself quickly in my experience. Only cars like K cars should be pure ice without electrical assist and energy recovery IMO.

Petrol cars are inherently cleaner in terms of NOX and THC and NOX combination figure and most forget that petrol are even held to a higher standard so your 2 litre common rail diesel dies not meet the standard of Euro 6 petrol which has a lower limit ie 60 mg/km rather than diesels 80 mg/km. Several big cities across the world, and some national fixed bans for diesels in all it big cities India plans, are set to ban all diesel vehicles https://www.prinsautogas.com/en/news/four-major-cities-move-ban-diesel-vehicles-2025 Diesel engines in cities just are too dirty to continue to allow and that is Euro 6 and even the up-coming Euro 7 standard also hence cities adopting the complete ban of this engine design. The compression ignition engine but operates at so high a compression ratio it does this NOX creation that is inherently bad and hence diesels are not even held to the same standard as petrol but increasingly cities see that diesels cannot and will not meet low levels of NOX, THCs, PMs hence the plan to ban all of the them no matter what Euro standard or equivalent in Asia, US as well as Europe. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The leaders of four major global cities say they will stop the use of all diesel-powered cars and trucks by the middle of the next decade. The mayors of Paris, Mexico City, Madrid and Athens say they are implementing the ban to improve air quality.......... Diesel engines contribute to the problem in two key ways - through the production of particulate matter (PM) and nitrogen oxides (NOx). Very fine soot PM can penetrate the lungs and can contribute to cardiovascular illness and death. Nitrogen oxides can help form ground level ozone and this can exacerbate breathing difficulties, even for people without a history of respiratory problems. As the evidence has mounted, environmental groups have used the courts to try and enforce clear air standards and regulations. In the UK, campaigners have recently had success in forcing the government to act more quickly. Now, mayors from a number of major cities with well-known air quality problems have decided to use their authority to clamp down on the use of diesel. In the UK, campaigners are calling for London's mayor to commit to phase out diesel vehicles from London by 2025. Analysis The diesel ban is hugely significant. Carmakers will look at this decision and know it's just a matter of time before other city mayors follow suit.

It is more about NOX and THC (and PMs) the concentration is now. Extract from the UK VCADATA 2017 https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/downloads/download.aspx?rg=aug2017 Manufacturer Model Description Transmission Engine Capacity Fuel Type Emissions NOx [mg/km] THC + NOx Emissions [mg/km] Particulates [No.] [mg/km] SKODA Superb Saloon 2.0 TDI 150PS DSG Stop-Start SE D6 1968 Diesel 62 83 0.03 SKODA Superb Saloon 1.4 TSI ACT 150PS DSG Stop-Start SE D6 1395 Petrol 37