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The Scala was ruled out fairly early due to having a too small boot. We have a second child on the way and really need all the space we can get for a pram and various other baby stuff 🙂 We quickly settled on the need for an estate car. We had test drives of the Kia, Opel (Vauxhall) Astra, the Octavia and a Golf estate. We both quickly agreed that the Ceed suited our needs the best. And after nearly a month of ownership, so far we have no regrets 🙂 btw, don’t see many scalas around in Denmark. I think the issue is pricing. It is priced so highly you might as well get the Octavia or golf. BR Christian

Hi all After 4.5 years of happy motoring with my Rapedo (Toledo), time has come for a bit of change. In 2 weeks I’ll be p/xing the Toledo against a new Kia Ceed wagon. The new Ceed is loaded compared to my Toledo, and has amongst others: Auto gearbox, navigation, adaptive cruise, full led headlights, reverse camera, leather seats and various other bits and bobs. The engine is a 1.4 turbo petrol with 140 hp coupled with a 7-speed dual clutch automatic gearbox. Naturally the Kia is quite a big step up overall, but so is the price! The residual value of the Toledo was.. well, not great! Lost about 60% in 4 years - ouch! The toledo has served us well and has been a great first car. We however felt it was time for a bit of an upgrade (especially with another kid on the way), which we certainly feel we will be getting with the new Ceed. This forum has been absolutely great - will be sorely missed, especially seeing as there doesn’t seem to be the same community around Kias and the Ceed. Happy motoring everyone! Best regards from Denmark - Chris

Hi! Certainly seems fine! Generally, with new oil in the engine, the oil will tend to run at lower temps. Once the oil starts to become contaminated with age, temps tend to go up a few degrees. Nothing to worry about!

Hi Harry For what it is worth, here’s my ownership experience after 3 years with a seat Toledo (as alluded to above, beneath the skin it is the same car as the rapid). Mine is the 105 ps 1,2 tsi 2015 model with heated seats, climate control, parking sensors, bluetooh and various other bits. The space is the in car is very good for 4 persons. The car is too narrow to comfortably seat 5 for longer periods of time. Boot space is bigger than anything in the class. The ride is a bit on the firm side, but definitely fine for daily purposes. Avoid 2013 or earlier models, as they have a harsh ride. A bit of road noise does intrude in the cabin. With the Rapid/toledo I think it's worth remembering that the car is basically an extended fabia, despite being quite close to the octavia size-wise. The car accordingly also feels like driving a car in the fabia class rather than the class above. Engine is well suited for the car and has enough get-up-and-go for all daily duties. I've had no issues with mine in the 3 years of owning. All in all very happy with the purchase - no regrets. As a buyer you should, however, be aware that you are buying a cheap, but roomy cars. If expectations are aligned accordingly, I'm sure it'll be a happy relationship :-) Good luck!

Mine (toledo) is nearing 2 years. No plans to change cars in the next 2-3 years. When its time to change, I'll likely look for an estate for more of that useable boot space. However, we are a one car household, so we need quite a bit of boot space in the one car we do have. Out of curiosity, why are you looking at replacements if the rapid works well for you and your family? Surely it's still within warranty, and selling now would guarantee a big depreciation?

To the OP: another significant upside with the petrol over diesel this time a year is that the petrol warms up significantly faster than a diesel (which means heat in the cabin faster). With such low mileage, there shouldn't be much of a fuel economy benefit from a diesel due to diesels not getting great fuel economy until properly warmed up (and the frequent regens will eat into fuel economy). However I am surprised to hear the diesel behaves so well with low mileage (as per Rick's post). Perhaps VAG's new line of diesels are more suited for shorter trips. My recommendation for your mileage would definitely still be the petrol, but perhaps a drive of both back to back could assist you in deciding which is the right engine for you! Good luck with finding the car!

With 6,000 miles annually I would avoid diesels: loads of issues with dpf, egr etc. The 1,2 tsi provides for pretty darn good low end torque and is relatively akin to a diesel to drive (albeit without the diesel noise). The 1,2 tsi is a well suited package for the rapid with enough grunt to comfortably keep up with traffic! Happy car hunting!

Due to changing work conditions, it is now me rather than the wife who gets to take the car to work (yep, I lodt that draw when we first bought the car). Still very pleased with the car and the 1,2 tsi 105. Getting approx. 48 mpg, which I'm pretty happy with considering I have the climate control on all the time!

Hi I've driven both the Octavia elegance (sel?) 1,4 tsi 140 bhp dsg and the seat toledo 1,2 tsi 105 bhp manual quite a bit. My own car is the toledo, whereas my parents owns the octavia (which i have borrowed quite a bit). The toledo and rapid are virtually identical. In my mind there is no doubt that the octavia is the better car: it rides better, the interior is nicer, it is more spacious and sound proofing is better. As such, it would seem the choice is easy and straight forward. However, I have no regrets buying the toledo over the octavia as the toledo was a lot cheaper than the octy. Considering the price difference, and our annual mileage, there was no way of justifying the octy over the toledo - especially considering how good a car the toledo / rapid is for the money. If I was doing a lot of driving, or if there was little price difference between the two, I'd get the octy. If price is an important consideration, I'd strongly consider the rapid/toledo. You wont go wrong with either. Some (the plumber) has found the driving position of the octy uncomfortable. The only way forward is to try both and see which you prefer and see whether the price increase of the octy is worth it to you. Happy car hunting!

Hi! The wife and I had a drive in both the Seat Toledo (identical to the rapid notchback) and the Fabia mk. 3 combi. While both nice cars to drive, the toledo/rapid felt the more 'grown up' car, perhaps due to the longer wheel base. Further, we needed space for a toddler in a car seat in the rear seats. While boot space is great in the fabia combi, the space in the rear seats is quite limited. Further, we didnt really find too much difference in interior plastics. Sure the toledo/rapid is quite hard plastics, but the fabia is not exactly soft touch leather all around either :-) After having test drives in both, the decision was quite straightforward for us. Especially as with dealer discounts, the toledo came out quite a bit cheaper. But if you dont need the space in the rear seats, the fabia is definitely also a good buy! Good luck with the decision and happy hunting for the right car - always an exciting time!

Hi! I agree. Also a fair few bits I wasn't too fussed with on the Leon. First and foremost I didn't much care for the positioning of the screen on the dash, looked a little misplaced and too much like a retrofit imho. Further, I had the 1,2 tsi 110 PS unit. It may be down to the increased weight of the Leon, but despite the extra 5 PS it actually seemed significantly slower off the line. I definitely had to rev it quite a bit more than the 105 PS version, which can be driven almost like a diesel. In that respect, I am not too concerned that I have the older 1,2 tsi unit in my Toledo. I also found the ride in the Leon wasn't much more comfy to be honest. It may be due to the bigger tyres on the Leon (17 inch on my loaner vs. 16 inch on the Toledo), but pot holes and the like was also easily felt in the Leon. Lastly its mainly my wife using the car. She is very short and struggled to find a comfortable driving position in the Leon, whereas the Toledo is a perfect fit for her. The exterior on the Leon on the other hand, now that is one smart looking motor! Chris

Hej Andy I agree the Toledo is great value for money. At least with the Danish prices one should get quite a discount on the list price or the pricing gets a little too close to some of the more refined competition such as the Ford Focus Stationcar (Ford are notorius in Denmark for giving massive dealer discounts). However, with a bit of discount on list price (which is easy to get on the Toledo), it has proven to be very good value for money. We are still thorougly enjoying ours! Hope you have many years of happy motoring with your rapedo :-)

Hi all I've been following this forum on the sidelines for approx. a year, and thought it prudent to giving my thoughts on owning my Rapedo (Seat Toledo, although as you all know, mechanically identical to the Skoda Rapid). The activity on the seat forums are quite limited so thought i'd say hello here instead. I bought my car new in April 2015. Its a 1,2 TSI 105 PS with a 6-speed manual and the following equipment (some may have been left out): - Climate control - Heated seats - Bluetooth - Rear-parking sensors - Heated mirrors - Heated headlight washer nozzles - Hill hold - 16 inch alloys Some standard equipment may have been left out :-) I live in Denmark where cars are prohibitively expensive. I initially considered a Skoda Octavia and a Seat Leon St but I was unable to get any reasonable discounts on the car, and with our limited annual mileage just couldn't justify the extra cost when the seat dealer was ready to offer a roughly £ 3,000 discount on a brand new Toledo in a cash deal. Now we are 1 year and approx. 10 k KM into owership of the car. The coming year our mileage will be significantly lower. So far the Toledo has proven a great car for us: The space is great, and economy so far has been pretty good. No mechanical issues or other reliability issues. Also no rattles as some have reported. I knew what to expect from the car when i bought it, namely that the ride was slightly on the hard side, and that the car is not as inspiring to drive as some of the competition. So in that sense, I haven't experienced some of the disappointment that others seem to have reported. I am still greatly enjoying the little 1,2 tsi 105 PS unit. It suits the car quite well and provides for a relaxed drive even on the motorway at 130 Kmph.. I had the experience to drive the seat leon st 1,2 tsi and seat toledo 1,2 tsi back to back, as our car was delayed a week due to a mistake on the dealer's part. The dealer admirably rectified the mistake by providing a well-equipped leon st 1,2 tsi 110 PS free of charge for a week until our car was ready for pick-up. I was happy to learn that the difference was not as big as I might initially have thought, and the Toledo didn't prove to be a massive step down compared to the leon. This only reassured me that the approx. 5-6 £ k saved was a good decision. All in all a happy owner, and provided the car stays mechanically sound, I am planning to keep it for approx. 5 more years. How are all of you getting along with your rapids or toledos? All the best Chris