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Just because there's currently an oil funded orange tit sitting in the oval office, I don't think it signs of "giving up" by everyone else. The push to net zero is already underway in the industries in the US. UK is on the right track as evidence by the CCC report from yesterday. But there's indeed worrying signs of slow down or watering down of policies by both US and EU.

I did here: A post you screenshoted and accused me of not stating the point clearly. The point is clearly stated in the bit you've quoted.

https://www.theccc.org.uk/publication/the-seventh-carbon-budget/ Note how electricity supply has decreased rapidly whilst road transport is the highest emissions sector.

No. It is not a strategic change. The company is in financial trouble as the BBC article stated, As I said, BEV is being blamed as the scapegoat, just like Vauxhall. Can you honestly say the 2024 Vauxhall Luton plant article blaming EV is the truth, when you've seen related articles blaming other global events over the few years earlier? Just pointing out your logic: You've previously stated "it's difficult to do X, it's more difficult to do X+Y" means a desire to do cohesion. Here, you've used same sentence structure: "it might be possible (doubt due to difficulty) to do X, it's more difficult to do X+Y". Therefore, by your logic, you must be the one doing cohesion, getting people into doing X+Y. Just an observation. "Changing like the wind" comes to mind.

Come on now. That's a stretch even by you. First, Aston Martin is in financial trouble. Blaming EV is like Stellantis blaming EV in their latest Luton plant troubles. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx29p18lz62o Aston Martin has always been about the driving experience, of course it is not keen to go fully BEV. Discounting low end products? I thought you were drumming about EV are expensive playthings of the rich just last year. Hum....You are also using the same way to talk about EV's as I did with meat. By your logic, does this mean you are the one doing the cohesion? 😱

You mean petrol stations?

The more you look, the more they surface, it is the nature of feed algorithms. It does not mean "now suddenly" getting more/major related files.

Within UK, net zero policies are having a positive effect for jobs and spreading the economic growth. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/feb/24/britain-net-zero-economy-booming-cbi-green-sector-jobs-energy-security Are people opposing net zero work in fossil fuel equity, central London?

Correct. Re-gen power is ultimately determined by battery C rating. Therefore the smaller the battery the lower regen power. https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-402-what-is-c-rate A 10 kWh PHEV will probably regen no more than 20 kW (2C), whereas a 60 kWh BEV could comfortably regen 60 kW (just 1C) and probably more.

Just a quick search comes up with so many results. The Top gear article did not link the source research paper, typical poor journalism. This lengthy article links to many sources: https://theconversation.com/car-brake-dust-can-be-more-harmful-than-diesel-exhaust-new-study-249736 Note, there is no discussion of brake pad material that are exclusive to EV in this article. As some were claiming. I believe this is the research paper in question: https://particleandfibretoxicology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12989-024-00617-2 Note, there is no mention of brake pad material difference for powertrains in this paper. So typical of anti-EV crowd to latch on to any tangible news and fit around their narrative......

Renault's trying to do with EV battery fire safety what Volvo did with seatbelts | Top Gear Renault's "Fireman access" port for their batteries, now free patent. It allows quickly flood the battery to combat or prevent thermal runaway.

When there's less work to do, it stands to reason less time is required to be spent on each service and therefore it will be cheaper. It's all extremely simple. Unfortunately current reality is that some legacy manufacturers take the **** and charge similar prices. There is also a skills shortage and dealership don't have sufficient trained person, some independent garages are not interested when there's still lots of ICE jobs around. But just as I post my personall accounts of EV ownership, I fully trust Lucky's account on EV servicing cost is the truth about EV ownership. After all, this is first hand info.

There's that weight argument again. It is more of problem created by legacy manufacturer using shared platforms. Are we saying ICE vehicles with same weight don't use those compounds? I've posted this before: Benchmark: Tesla Model Y LR: 1986 kg, 378 bhp, 854 l boot. Tesla Model Y SUV Long Range AWD 5dr Auto specs & dimensions | Parkers Volvo XC60 polestar engineered PHEV: 2145 kg, comparable 399 bhp, 598 l boot. Volvo XC60 SUV Polestar Engineered T8 Twin Engine AWD auto 5d specs & dimensions | Parkers Audi SQ5 sportback diesel: 2010 kg, 336 bhp, 500 l boot. Audi Q5 Sportback SQ5 TDI Quattro 5dr Tiptronic specs & dimensions | Parkers VW Touareg R-line tech petrol: 1945 kg 335 bhp, comparable 810 l boot Volkswagen Touareg SUV R-Line Tech 3.0 V6 TSI 340PS 4Motion Tiptronic auto 5d specs & dimensions | Parkers The paper posted by Octo is essentially saying the same thing, there is overall reduction of brake dust due to regen braking. "Although electric powertrain uptake, vehicle mileage driven and driving styles are dependent upon national policies and strategies, by 2035, we project that total UK brake wear PM emissions would reduce by up to 39% compared with 2020 levels. " 39% reduction thanks to EV use of regen braking and considering amount of older ICE vehicles on the road due, it is a huge reduction.

What about brake dust from the very diesel car? Has all the earlier talks of regen braking meant nothing? Man down the pub will believe anything from another man down the pub.

In which vehicle are brake pedals optional? In what vehicle can you do emergency braking without use of brake pedal? The car clearly communicates the amount of regen capability. It gradually changes over long drive as battery warms up and/or energy is used freeing up room for regen. Nothing will come as a surprise when driving and regen in one-pedal driving are never strong enough to be able to use during emergency. This is, again, one of those things that must drive the vehicle to experience it. Keyboard warrior at it again. What is BS about comparing cold engine to cold battery? Why does the software solution of blending in brakes for consistent one-pedal driving crap? The solution does make driving EV simpler and the software solution also makes mechanical design much simpler. Again: In which vehicle are brake pedals optional? In what vehicle can you do emergency braking without use of brake pedal? This is, again, one of those things that must drive the vehicle to experience it. Keyboard warrior at it again. In what way could a simple throttle mapping look up table fail? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookup_table Seems like a "new thing, don't like" knee jerk reaction.

Just because autonomous vehicles is advertised as an use-case for 5G, does not mean it is a pre-requisite. Pretty much all non-school-project autonomous driving vehicles currently around, from Tesla's FSD to Chinese LIDAR vehicles to Google's Waymo, all have their autonomous driving decisions made locally within the vehicle. The accident I posted earlier in the thread has absolutely zero to do with mobile signals. The AI model is running locally.

Battery is like the engine, it takes time to warm up. The BMS controls parameters so that the battery is well looked after, doesn't operate outside its comfort range. Just like modern ICE car ECU controls the engine parameters to reduce damage by hard acceleration from cold start. EV can certainly have additional components to scavenge those excess braking energy. But it comes back to cost, weight and efficiency. Basic engineering design decisions (I'm sure Graham knows too well as he keep saying he's an engineer). Why add weight and cost when it's a very temporary effect that can solved by software, plus daily driving charged to 80% wouldn't feel its effect? Alternatively, some of Audi's EV have been programmed to charge to lower true SoC, but show 100% to the user. Benefits are sufficient regen always available and faster rapid charging at higher SoC. But downsides are user inaccessible battery capacity, excess weight and more difficult to measure degradation. Certain cars does. One of software updates in Tesla blends in the brakes when re-gen capability is reduced. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/new-icon-on-touchscreen-limited-regen-braking-icon.284694/ Of course, legacy manufacturer will be stuck in their old ways of wanting people to buy new cars. I'm researching Megane's software system, people having to beg dealers to get bug fix updates pushed to their car is just crazy. Pretty much all EV, even the very basic Leaf and Zoe over 10 years ago, have displays showing regen and drive power capability on the dash. Nothing unexpected will happen and the blame can only be on the driver for not observing instruments.

China have lots of policy accelerating EV adoption: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0965856424002830 Current US administration had always been climate change deniers, he/they backed out of Paris agreement in the previous tenure and have done again this time. Therefore it is not a balanced view nor a good lead to follow. As mentioned just a few posts up, cars in general are expensive these days. EV are at about price parity to purchase. It is vastly cheaper per mile to drive EV charged with help of private parking spaces next to home. Ensure private properties are not taking up public area. This is going to be unpopular opinion, I personally think Japan has it right when it comes to car sizes and making sure streets are pleasant and clear from obstructions: https://www.parkingreformatlas.org/parking-reform-cases-1/japan's-proof-of-parking-rule-(shako-shomeisho)

Good point, I had just selected decending price, I had not looked at trim levels. Removing GTI shows 30k for "R-line", the top spec? Search available stock | Volkswagen UK Remove R-line price is up to 27k. Ford Puma (Fiasta replacement) is not cheap either: 26k to 34k. (34k is for the niche model) Ford Puma offers & promotions | Ford UK People say EV are expensive obviously haven't priced up cars in general lately.

The short length is what my parents wanted. A small compact car. Megane looks like a normal car but it is actually same size as Kona (first gen). I agree the back feels claustrophobic and boot is waaaaaay too deep. The first isn't much problem because they won't usually have rear passenger. My old man has DIY hobby, plans to build a frame to lift up the boot floor when summer comes around. It's got enough boot surface for their weekly shopping. Overall material quality, it feels much better than Kona for sure. At about 60% of official OTR price just 1 year old, it seems like okay price. Similar condition older Kona 64 kWh are asking more. Of course brand new price is ludicrous, no one in their right mind will pay over £35k for a compact car. Oh wait.. looks like ICE cars are not cheap either... >£35k for Polo's. (for EV are too expensive crowd)

Instant torque has been tuned out in many non-performance EV's default modes. Out of 5 EV's from legacy manufacturer I've driven, 4 of which have slow throttle response, only EV6 have some level of responsiveness. Of course, some of them can be tuned to have slightly faster response by selecting sport mode. But I don't think a granny will drive about in sport mode. In Tesla, PM motors also have slower response than AC motors. This is why PM motor only RWD models are slower than AWD models. Please correct me if wrong, I think the M3 in the video was a RWD? Also, all Tesla can be tuned down by selecting Chill mode. The real danger is use of wrong pedal. This danger is present in any car, bigger with more driven power and higher risk the older the individual. Very interesting to see you, once again, embarrassed for your baseless anti-EV comment.

The top spec has this ugly yellow "accents" front and back. New & Used Cars for Sale - Auto Trader UK The one you photoed is pretty much the one they will buy, although I think there's 2 shades of very similar colour. It's Techno spec mid level out of 3 levels. It has got the Google system and wheels upgrade (I agree rims are unnecessarily big) and everything else except the 3 things I listed earlier for top spec.

The Megane is about same size as Kona: compact and easy to park. They will only use the car for getting about locally, charged at home. Long trips in my Tesla MY, a lot less affected by winter, only 20% reduction in efficiency. Even 39 kWh Kona has more than enough range. 60 kWh Megane will be plenty. I calculate 150 miles in worst case winter with some built-in degradation (2.8 mi/kWh * 55 kWh usable). So they'll simply keep the battery in the 40-70% range, just plug in, car and Intelligent Octopus manages the rest, super easy, very convenient and cheap. Just by having an EV also dropped their electricity bill thanks to the cheap overnight hours and not noticeable increase in day time unit cost. The Kona feels like a Leaf 3.0, it has slightly upgraded everything but ultimately it drives similar to ICE vehicle with a traditional manufacturer system. The Megane feels like a proper EV, there's great Google system, it tells you arrival estimated SoC and routes through rapid chargers. The car is built on fully revised EV platform with proper flat footwell. Really shame about the yellow bits for top spec, they can't get over how ugly it looks. But I feel it's the spec to go for (heat pump, 360 camera, upgraded stereo). However it's not my money.

My parents have rejected the Kona because of a fault within the car's traditional braking system, master brake cylinder had to be changed. The 12v battery is also not original, strange for a 2 year old car, feels like a lemon or not been looked after by previous Motability owner. Now they've put down deposit for a Megane e-tech 60 kWh techno mid level spec (no heat pump), I think it's the same battery as yours. 1 year old 8k miles car for £21k from main dealer seems a very good deal. Only £1k more for Ionic top level spec with upgraded stereo, 360 camera and heat pump, but unfortunately they can't get over the ugly yellow teeth appearance for Ionic spec. I saw you mention heat pump previously. Would non-inclusion affect battery thermal management? Have you got any reading material for Renault's Scenic/Megane heat pump system? Do you use any OBD scanner for reading the car? Car Scanner app doesn't report anything from BMS.

It'll probably be the same with EV fire if the burning materials were the same.