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Wait until you find out a home wall box charge point start at around £400, cheapest branded one is actually the Tesla one: https://shop.tesla.com/en_gb/product/wall-connector. None of them even have the RCBO built in! Generally, a charge point install cost around £1000 https://octopus.energy/order/ev-charger/products/ It's all a giant rip-off. I had done a quote at my parents just before gov grant went away, that was Jul/Aug 2022. I'd qualify with my MY order paperwork. But installers were busy and had given quotes of over £1200, saying without government grant it would be closer to £1500. Surprised no one, grant went away and install price didn't change. Similarly, when government grant for new EV back in 2010's went away and manufacturers magically found margins to lower their prices. Hence I think we don't need more grants for individuals. Only need to cut red tape for charging hubs, build it and they will come.

That is about the price for mobile charge connector. The Tesla OEM one is here: https://shop.tesla.com/en_gb/product/mobile-connector But Tesla one is more versatile, you can buy an adaptor for Commando socket. Single one works with everything with the right £40 adaptor. Remembering a regular Type 2 cable is £80-150 depend on length. £150 for a no brand portable EVSE is about right. It handles safety checks at the plug (not over heating) and the electrical signalling for the car. https://shop.tesla.com/en_gb/category/charging

Strangely no Tesla?? No Polestar? There's Taycan, EV6, Born, Merc's, Ora Cat. a Volvo, eC4 and others. The lightly used Lexus Ux300e is seriously good value. I did consider it to replace Leaf because it had Chademo connector, probably one of reason for its huge discount at retail (carwow video was comparing against RRP). Unfortunately its Chademo functionality is less than the humble Leaf, doesn't support V2H.

11 years! The escooter trial was started in 2021. So probably nothing before 2030 🤣 Upon checking, yes. https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/electric-scooter-rental-trial "The second phase of the rental trial launched on 25 September and is being operated by Lime and Voi. This is in line with Department for Transport national guidance that allows e-scooter trials across the UK to run until 31 May 2026." No hope of private ones being legal before then.

More words. No substance to back up your useless words. Here's a handful of contradiction to your points, just in that post alone: "you simply cannot comprehend what you have said before" I refer you to my consistency: "you try and make all about the other person" Again, I refer you to the reason I'm bring it up: "rather than accept responsibility for your own actions" "The only valid view in your eyes is yours" Come back when you can back up your smear campaign against me with evidence.

Is there anything being done to make micro mobility legal in the near future? The trials are simply stupid. I've rented a few times, but the parking sensibly requirement, while makes sense from policy maker point of view, always puts a doubt in the total rental cost and thus experience. No one in their right mind would park stupidly with their own escooter.

Nice job redirecting the narrative. It's obviously your strong suit, rather than backing up your claims with evidence. When there is a critical mass of people not clogging up the road with unnecessary cars I will look to go down to 1 car and only drive a car for long distances out of M25. Before then, as I said, my family have whole heartedly adopted public transport when it is efficient (cost and/or time). To my family, getting about does not equal to driving car, it always starts a quick evaluation of what's the best mode of transport. Again, just like EV's. None of what I'm talking about is looking to get people to change today. I'm simply raising awareness and planting the idea. But people like you always seems to take it personally as though I'm commanding a change right now, this hour. I would be very interested if you can quote the bits that make you feel I have changed the narrative. What was I writing before that is different now? It would be good to back up your claims for once.

Is that due to bus stops or the physically large vehicle squeezing past narrow roads with cars parked on either side? Was there any pattern as to why that is the case? For 40 people, half of a DD bus. Do you think it's faster for a bus to take them along its route and stop at different stops? Or up to 40 cars on the same bit of road network at the same time? Unless hugely economically beneficial to drive. I have already given up cars when travelling into the city or anywhere within home's scooter distance. But I've given up on the idea of taking local bus rides due to sitting in the same congestion as car. Hence my view more has to be done to tempt people out of cars, reducing congestion. Also why I'm interested in how buses causing congestion. Your whole post reads rather strange, tone sound like having a go at me, I'm having a hard time gauge your stance, whether pro buses or pro cars. I personally think to be pro bus, you'd have to be pro measures to make bus seem more attractive. But you seem against ULEZ. Question to all, what is the best solution to "getting around"? ICE cars are the status quo, but they pollute too much and there's too many on the road creating congestion. EV pollute a lot less over its lifetime and especially so during use. But problem of congestion isn't solved. People are also against public transport, not enough seem to use park and ride in densely populated area. Then what is the long term solution?

You are forgetting solar panels Oh, sorry, I'm twisting your words. Nice job avoiding forgetting your accusations a few pages back. Great quick run through of different infrastructure options. The problem with buses is other traffic on the road. Selfish drivers slows down the buses and makes the whole thing undesirable. That's the reason for their slowness, need take away the traffic congestion. When I rode Oxford park & ride bus into Oxford, it was great EXCEPT for the 15min the bus was stuck in traffic due to other cars mostly with just a single person in each of the cars. My daily experience nearby, cars parked on the road is primary source of slow-down for the local buses. Roads around here are already narrow, people park their cars on the road because their flat didn't have allocated parking. It then blocks the whole road until the bus can nudge past other traffic. Indeed it's all very subjective. One person may see a drop of rain as excuse to drive while someone else may still cycle in the snow. But end of the day none of those 2 people need to drive if public transport is well built out like around here. I do understand London is a different kettle of fish, including often unnecessary car ownership. But that shouldn't stop other population centres from adopting similar park&ride strategy to Oxford or Cambridge. Remember I'm not arguing to take away the car completely for everyone, clearly there's cases where personal transport is required. I'm only arguing that WHEN public transit is dense enough in population centres, make driving less attractive with provision for less able (eg. ULEZ and C-charge). Push people towards the sustainable solution, slowly change people's mindset. Getting around in central London is no problem at all, not even with a baby buggy, which I had to do at one point. Today there's even more step-free access stations than before. I've driven around central London in Saturday/Sundays due to cheaper with a full EV, but even with reduced traffic, it would still be faster to take the tube in my experience.

The few cars I saw that are in stock on their autotrader account shows just a few miles, at most 19% in the red example. It's now 3 months after registration (73 reg), I wouldn't touch those EV's that have been kept long term at low SoC. https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-702-how-to-store-batteries Zero EV knowledge and running the dealership like a joke.

Certainly true, I'm thinking suburban and inwards. Anywhere that is densely populated. Country folks can always use park and ride to get into the city if they are able (see below). This would massively cut down on unnecessary traffic and is a sustainable way to develop densely populated areas. If people are already using food banks or not able to replace their 15 years old car. Just wait for suitable used EV. It's never "you must change right now". Brand new cars were never an option and government grants would not change that. If a subset of that group need to head into the densely populated area, then use park and ride / public transport / bike if already local. If a smaller subset of above group is not able to use public transport and must drive, then there's already government schemes to support them by waive ULEZ/C-charges and parking fees. As you can see, I feel there's already government schemes to support the less able, regardless of powertrain. The problem is those who are able don't want to change (how many ULEZ protesters are actually disabled?), the only way is to make driving into densely populated areas uneconomical. (see a pattern there?) To replace one car with another via grants is not a long term sustainable solution, the mindset need to change. This is was brought up due to someone mentioned that EV is not end game to solving climate change. It really isn't, but it's 10x better than ICE car (1-2 years become carbon emission neutral, average car lasts ~15 years, as seen in the 5 links I posted a page or so ago).

Nice little car, cheaper than a Ford Fiasta or VW Polo. Although shame they didn't make it Sandero sized and offer 3 in the back?

Hence why the need for groups like "Just Stop Oil" so that governments do not cave to capitalist exploitation and throw away the climate pledge. Powered personal transport does not start and end with cars. There's quite a few micro mobility solutions that are both cheap to buy and cheap to run. The cost to change from ICE to EV is coming down all the time. EV were expensive because there's no second hand options. As I previously mentioned regarding PCP/PCH, during current adoption of EV's, it creates cheap affordable second hand EV's. Support were in place years ago, £5000, then £3500 off, ULEZ scrappage scheme, etc. But just like today's Boiler Upgrade Scheme that supports installation of heat pump, people can get heat pump for as little as £500. But when the ban comes in, it will be pulled and people dragging their feet will then moan. I read your earlier post as: what about people who must use cars? My reply is that people who don't need cars can be motivated to use more suitable transport. Regarding maths, I always wondered, what is the best way to allow more people to get where they want to go with minimum change to current road infrastructure?

It is my opinion, backed up by mathematical model and proven examples. Are you tired of sitting in traffic? Because for every car journey that is actually necessary, there's probably 10 cars that could have been replaced by a different (more suitable) mode of transport. As someone who needs to drive, presumably you could get C-charge exemption, wouldn't it be better if roads are as clear as during COVID lockdown? Surely everyone understands this, just like EV adoption right now, it is not about removing options but pushing people towards options that are more sustainable long term.

Again, zero evidence to back up what you are writing. Do quote the bit that you claim is manipulated. You need to stop playing the victim without any evidence to back it up and start taking responsibility of the words you output. https://juststopoil.org/ Yes. Only new projects. "demanding the UK Government stop licensing all new oil, gas and coal projects." How long before existing fields become uneconomical? Why must use of oil derived products be economical? Economical and readily available slows adoption of clean tech. The problem is, I've mentioned many times, "getting about" should not be equal to "driving a car". EV is never meant to be the end-game. It's only being pushed because it's the currently best drop-in replacement to cars as we know it. People somehow accept poor public transport as part of reason for driving. But people will do nothing to change that, some even go as far as oppose ways to reduce car use (protest against bike lanes, C-charge, etc). With regard to PCP/PCH, I personally don't see any problem with this model during the transition to EV. As we all know, the car isn't scrapped at end of 3 year lease, currently it would push the most polluting car at bottom of the ladder to be scrapped. The 3 years old car becomes a cheaper car more affordable to more people. People complained about cost of EV's a year ago (in fact, there's still one a few posts up), now very good EV's are not only similar price to competing cars when new, there's many decent 2-4 years old for sale very competitive compared to similar condition ICE cars.

Similarly, for balance, numerous oil extraction related disasters are well documented: https://ourworldindata.org/oil-spills#interactive-charts-on-oil-spills https://www.britannica.com/explore/savingearth/9-biggest-oil-spills-in-history https://www.idealresponse.co.uk/blog/the-10-biggest-oil-spills-in-history/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/268148/largest-global-oil-spills-since-1967/ Last year, there had been 1 large spill and 9 medium spills: https://www.itopf.org/knowledge-resources/data-statistics/statistics/ "The total volume of oil lost to the environment from tanker spills in 2023 was approximately 2,000 tonnes" I'll be driving the length of the country during the Bank holiday weekend for a week break in Isle of Skye. I'll let you know how I get on

Here's exactly what you said: Dissecting it, removing the double negative, you said saying that "all of their video are packed full of truthful information, unlike this Fully Charged spin off". Simple, because you keep referring to it. Yes, topic is energy and pollution from production of petrol/diesel. You brought up battery production, to which I referenced total vehicle lifetime emission. I'm not sure why you are using weasel words now whereas you referenced EV battery production and end-of-life:

https://www.google.com/search?q=homologate+a+car&rlz=1C1GCEB_enGB1107GB1107&oq=homologate+a+car&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDExMjlqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&ssui=on "Vehicle homologation refers to the process of certifying that a vehicle complies with the necessary technical and legal requirements to be deemed roadworthy and safe for public use. " In another words, in a world where EV came first, how would they certify a car carrying 50 litres of highly flammable liquid everywhere?

Right, since you brought them up earlier. So in your opinion, Taycan-man and Geoff are doing the god's work by spreading factually correct information presented in a truthful way? Here's the thing. No, your car does not produce 119 g/km of carbon emissions, it's a lie. There is a HUGE supply chain for the peitrol/diesel that is not often mentioned. No, there is less pollution and environmental damage by EV over its lifetime. Please refer to the links I posted and you quoted. Battery production embedded carbon is cancelled out after first 1-3 years, depending on energy source. You keeps on repeating proven wrong facts and refuse to believe trustworthy sources. That is extremely far from realist that you claim.

To some people, status quo is a comfortable refuge, change is scary. Funny questions found on another forum. Imagine a world where BEV is normal and petrol/diesel cars are being introduced: I am thinking of swapping my EV for an ICE car …. 1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you sleep? How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Will there be a solution for refuelling at home? 2. Which parts will I need to service and how often? The car salesman mentioned oil in the engine and timing belts that need replacing and a box with gears in it. What is this? How much will this service oil change cost and how often – and what happens to the old oil. Also, apparently these petrol type cars generally stop on the brakes alone – so the brakes wear out much faster – how long will they last compared to my current car which lasts over 100k miles? 3. Do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill? 4. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator pedal until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars? 5. We currently pay about 2p per mile to drive our electric car. I have heard that petrol can cost up to 8 times as much. Is this true? 6. Is it true that petrol is flammable? 7. I understand that the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives? Is there a solution? 8. I have also been told that you have to transport oil all over the world to turn into petrol or diesel, and these ships have in the past damaged the environment by leaking the oil. 9. I have heard that cars with internal combustion engines are being banned to enter more and more cities around the world, as it is claimed that they tend to harm the environment and health of their citizens? Is that true? 10. I have been told that these internal combustion engines make a noise when you start them – so early starts can wake people up, and driving a lot of internal combustion engine cars in towns makes towns noisy. 11. is it true people can steal the fuel from your tank? 12. what is the drop in range in cold weather, I've been told a car that does 45mpg can drop to 37 mpg in winter – just curious on that one. 13. a friend told me that the exhausts wear out – is that true, and people steal them for the rare material used in them. 14. I was also told – that the exhaust gas isn’t good for you – and if you leave the car running in a confined space – like a garage – you will die – surely that isn’t true is it? 15. next door told me – these petrol cars – carry around 40 to 60 litres of highly flammable liquid which is pumped into a plastic cylinder, and its then exploded to generate expanding gas to move a piston, and turn linear motion into rotary motion. Why would anyone want thousands of explosions happening within a few feet of where your sitting. 16. a guy at work told me – he has a petrol car, and it leaks oil. When he parks it – surely that’s not right is it – leaving dirty marks on the floor and contaminating the environment so directly. How long before this happens if I change. 17. my dad told me – if you buy a diesel car – the hand pump smells very bad, and you have to wear special gloves to stop your hand smelling, and if you spill it on your clothes it terrible. 18. is it true – the petrol and diesel is so dangerous, that you can only buy the fuel at a special filling station, and not anywhere (hotels/Car parks/Home/Work)? 19. while technology is advancing, will I ever be able to refuel my internal combustion car for free using only the sun? 20. would I be better off going straight to horse and cart, and not buying a horseless carriage – they sound pretty awful, burning dinosaur juice and polluting the environment whist funding conflict and war and consuming raw material at an unbelievably high rate. Also: Think of a world full of BEVs and someone comes along and wants to homologate a car (BEV) with a 'fuel tank' attached to it. 'Hi, I'd like to attack a flimsy plastic bottle to underside of this car and fill it with flammable fluid. How can I homologate this?'

The demand for such oil derived product is many orders of magnitude less than demand for petrol/diesel/other fuel. So there's scope to hugely cut down refinery energy use. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/more-olefins-less-gasoline-petrochemical-fcc-enabler-da-silva-mba- Figure 1 shows changing demand for oil derivatives, with refinery able to match that change. When petrol/diesel demand is greatly reduced, that makes a large reduction in total crude oil demand, which means a significant reduction in energy demand. I don't think anyone is under illusion that oil extraction and refinery will completely stop in the near or mid future. But somehow this is put under the microscope as the reason for misinformation, even though it was never mentioned in the video. Key is people use their car's 119 g/km figure as though it is all the pollution their car produces. There is MASIVE amount of pollution before fuel even gets into the fuel tank.

Did you not talk about whole life emission of EV and that there is pollution left behind after life of EV? I have never tried to put words in your mouth or twist what you are saying. I am directly denying end of life pollution is a problem by referencing HUGE whole life reduction in emission, done by referencing multiple trustworthy sources of information. Again, I refer you to the fact that petrol and diesel production from refinery can be reduced: Please provide evidence that EV must forever be reliant on oil derived products. World is changing, when oil derived products were to stop, alternatives are available. You are coming up with a lot of stuff but fail to reference any sources. Why should anyone believe words you are coming up with?

I'm still not seeing any proof to say that the video is misinformation. Remember: Just because current world evolves around oil, does not mean we are reliant on oil indefinitely. Just because current refinery output is such, does not mean it cannot be tweaked so that less petrol/diesel are produced and more of other stuff can be produced. Refinery output are constantly being tweaked to produce optimum output matching demand. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/more-olefins-less-gasoline-petrochemical-fcc-enabler-da-silva-mba- Regarding total lifetime pollution: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032122000867 https://theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/ https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/comparative-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-a-mid-size-bev-and-ice-vehicle https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2022/06/18/we-need-to-measure-total-lifecycle-emissions-for-cars--but-evs-still-win/ https://about.bnef.com/blog/the-lifecycle-emissions-of-electric-vehicles/ If you want to label me as "pro-EV", but yet you refuse to believe multiple trustworthy sources arriving at same conclusion...... there can only be one label for you, it's definitely very far from realist.

Which bit of it is not truthful? Can you be more specific? Oil extraction, refinery all use huge amount of energy. Fact. Those emissions are not calculated in car consumption. Fact. Just because current world evolves around oil, does not mean we are reliant on oil indefinitely. Just because current refinery output is such, does not mean it cannot be tweaked so that less petrol/diesel are produced and more of other stuff can be produced. Yes, I have always said driveways all throughout. Driveway owner = suitable EV owner in overwhelmingly vast majority of cases.