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Phil the thing its failing on is CO 0.86%VOL HC 190PPM VOL that symbol that looks like a tent is 1.688 oil temp 12c After sensors and ECU and CAT check its ****CO 0.51% its failing here** HC 33 PPM VOL TENT THING 1.005 On the original fail before anything it was CO <0.30% VOL 0.47% VOL> Now the bloke said its flickering between green and red and erring more onto the green side but he still FAILED it :( I hope that means somin to you phil!

Same as you, 100 cel blueflame whole system

Cheers, its booked in to the same place thats doing the work, i just have to drop it off a couple hours early for them to try some such rubbish. Reason i asked is because i thought it was utterly illegal to drive hence the trailor it wasnt until a mate said you can drive it their...

My car failed its MOT on EMISSIONS AT IDLE, since then I have had the o2 sensors changed 1 and 2, new ECU and the cat tested for breaking up, nothing has solved it and it still fails on the above issue. Any ideas? Also for any rozzers is it legal for me to drive to the garage with the car booked in for an MOT?, thus far its been trailerd around but unfortunatly my friend is off on holiday to the ring so I need to get the car to the garage. cheers

Im just Glad Massa never won in these circumstances......

welp i dont care and ITV only show What they wish also if i see Hamilton on every branded beeb thing like ITV then they can do one also

Dont forget Heiki has practicaly parked the car to let LH pass on a few occasions earlier this season, and their was no coded msg, before the race started it would of been sorted. LH started and drover perfectly today, credit to him. Sighned a Massa fan.

True

In "some" peoples eyes, neither deserve to win however Vettel does.

*Yawn* And in other news..............

I think this season we are seeing more penaltys because of the relative immaturity of the drivers, I keep saying it if Shumi or Alonso was in a winning car the title would of been wrapped months ago!. It does annoy me how people are biast but thats life we see the best and ignore the worst in those we support and love, However it is becoming a joke recently with LH, Take redbarons picture for instance (im not having a pop mate), its a picture 4 seconds AFTER the actuel offence, Im seeing this kind of thing everywhere and to be blatently honest it does not make a good viewing it makes you think jeez are people realy that silly?, i mean most of us in these threads whatch it and those that dont prolly go off to youtube and see the incident in its whole, to show a pick of somin that supposedly makes LH innocent is starange, it was the same in Belgium, the drivers united in saying LH gained an advantage but somebody decided to take selective lines from the artcle to portray LH in good light, this takes time time we will never again live, its gone forever so why even bother trying, nobody is stupid enough to just see this and go with it. the fact is LH and FM are immature and in a situation that they are not doing well at dealing with, throw in some FIA decisions and its the useal UK rubbish of OMG the world is against us, im glad our forefathers never had this attitude or we would all speak ****ing german!. I get personaly abused on here for seeing it in the WHOLE picture rather then just having a guess its BS, if LH wins the drivers title it will be because Massa ****ed up, if Massa wins it it will be because LH ****ed it up, simple as that realy. Its getting embarrassing to be honest we need to wake up and start being honest.......

And not one referance to Bel anywhere! It may seem we finaly nearly agree?

Actuely they are allowed to use this area, this line is so a car Exiting the pits does not just swerve out but is fed out, the traffic lights you see on the pit exit where first devised to tell a drive leaving the pits that a car maybe in the area.

Ok firstly the Picture posted is alittle late in the proceedings, take a look at this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5KReYtyew the actual problem comes from Hamilton out breaking himself and going straight on effectively not allowing Kimmi to turn in and forcing Kimmi to break, this allows Kova to get along side as he has to break and all three go off, Lewis rejoins in 3rd and Kova and Kimmi much further back, because of the lunge that for me stank of pure desperation LH effectively pushed three cars off himself being one, as he rejoined a few places further up the order then the other two he effectively gained an advantage so I can see why he was given a penalty but as stated by others I cannot ever remember this happening before anywhere so its a strange one unless they are clamping down on it I'm not sure the FIA would need to clarify this. Massa's Lunge on LH was a disgrace, I can only think he was doing it with intent to end lewis's race, he was never getting back past, the fact he was on the kerbing rather then between the two solid lines is mute as nowadays they seem to be allowed to use the kerb rather then the lines, again Massa's Lunge stank of desperation and for me should of resulted in Massa being disqualified from the race. Boudais leaving the pits for me fine once again a desperate I must pass him now move was made and for me I cant fault Bourdais for holding his line, he didn't impeach massa at anytime he just stayed on line and for me that penalty was unjust and a un warranted. For me today I think LH and Massa both stank of desperation, I said previously that if Alonso where in a top team or Shumi was still around the Championship would be won and over by now, as for who deserves to win the championship as referred to by another well that would be Vettel, he is the only guy who deserves it! but hey its out of Massa and LH and I can only hope that its Massa because of my Allegiance to Ferrari however I think Macca and Ferrari have not done themselves many favor's this year.

Nah Alonso is good very good, however their was luck right time right place and all!

ya that works also

I agree, I think its human nature i mean DC has been hurting engineers for years lol, However what could you do? say each car has to have a stationery period of atleast ten seconds?, this would mean fuel and re shoe and then wait for the lolly however it would negate the main overtaking feature in F1!, its not just the Fezza's that are bad as said DC is bad, infact most have had problems at regular times, I think the only way would be to add a 3rd dimension to a pit stop. Dimension one- Re shoe Dimension two- Re fuel Thats how it is currently, however I would say this. Dimension one- Turn off engine Dimension two- re shoe Dimension three fuel Dimension one continued- restart engine GOO As it was said in Velancia, Massa was released into the "path" of a car, the stewards sais this time massa was released "Into" a car and trailed 15 feet of hose down the pitlane, their is the differance near miss before, blatent **** up this time..

Their is no senser, Each corner has a button as does the fuel man, when they all press the button a green light comes up on the pit wall the engineer then press's his button and the light goes green, its just a **** system that needs banning. Massa got a pen because he had 15feet of fuel hose flapping about he didnt in velencia, the macca's have their titanium mounting bolts on brackets at the sides however most other teams apart from FI have them in the boards, hence the sparks from most but only dust from the Macca's and FI.

Oh realy? so why are my post's litterd with "Stupid traffic light system", "It will be banned" and defending Massa but stating Clearly it was the system at fault? Their are a few Bel's mate and your one of them period.

cynical rubbish mate, Firstly their where three penaltys to dish out hence some time taken, Ferrari's was the first given and they where also told to go to conventional means for the remainder of the race, We wont see the traffic light system again as it will be banned, One person gained from the duration of the penalty delays and that was rosberg it allowed him to open up a 14.2 second lead. you can blame the FIA all you like mate, but the fact is this season has been litterd with mistakes by both title contenders, I get the feeling if Shuemy was still around or Alonso in a top team I feel the title would be decided already, its only dragged on this long because the Macca's and Ferrari are making silly mistakes, an experienced head will of been crowned champion already.

Well tbh Alonso is the best pound for pound driver no contest and nowhere shows that better then a street circuit!. Me and the wife was talking about it midweek just gone and we both obviusly wanted massa to win but we both agreed Alonso was the tip. can everybody shut up now? Ferrari got a deserved penalty, the reason we got one this time was because Massa took the fuel line and that could of hurt other teams mechanics last time that did not happen, also i suspect a totting up was happaning IE the stupid light system dont work get rid, In Massa's defence he did nothing wrong and was a victem of a dodgy system. Interesting that Rozzer was second aswell, when he was in GP2 he was very good on a par with LH so again the street circuit shows talent more then a conventional track, However all that said I disliked the layout, the only real overtaking place was a suicide dive down the inside with more bumps on the track then an ocean in force 20 gale. Give me some time and I'll give you my tip for the next race soon

Stunning Lap!!!!! get in

As I said Practise is nothing to go by, I think Massa will win but im expecting Alonso on the podium

Alonso is my tip, Kubica seem's kind of deflated at the moment. One thing is for sure, if the testing times are anything to go by and their not it will be mighty close, the top three all with in 100th of a second!. As for the situation with it being a night race, it looks like a boring track and the light is just strange tbh, if it rains i can see an abandond grand prix.