garym999

Yes getting the basics right would be good. Lots of long journeys most of which have been done with a full charge from home. Nights away are when the superchargers come in to their own. with winter coming it will be interesting know what the impact will be. I’ve already been enjoying getting into a preheated car or the colder starts

So, time for an update I guess... Also remember this is my first EV. Would I go back to and ICE car, NO. I also thought I’d dislike the car more than I do. Love Regular software updates Quick when you want it to be Regenerative breaking so smooth, almost forgotten what the brake pedal is for. Supercharger network. Just plug in. Integration with Octopus Intelligent. You say how much charge you need and by when and they instruct the car when to charge. Also gives you guaranteed 6-hour cheap rate electric. Very spacious Loads of features that would be optional on others (4-wheel drive, premium stereo, Adaptive cruise control, Traffic aware lane assist, heat pump) Phone locking and App control The most powerful aircon I have had in a car. Especially given the huge glass roof its working against Hate Autohigh beam headlights, don't work. Matrix headlights, Can project Tesla on the wall but that’s it! Autowipers bit sporadic Turning Circle Bings, Bongs and other nagging messages (got that from lane assist when I test drove the Enyaq too.) We even completed a holiday to France towing our large trailer tent. Oxford to Plymouth, Charge at Darts farm, Exeter (excellent breakfast), Plymouth to Roscoff and on to our final destination in Brittany (another hours drive). No drama at all. Except having to unhitch to charge. That would be the same of any EV though. I'm sure I would have been happy with the Enyaq if I were able to get one in time. I'm thinking the charging experience would have been the only let down.

So a quick update. COVID has hit China hard with factory shutdowns, even when the factory opens it then has issues with component supply as those factory’s have been hit too. So I had an EDD (estimated delivery date) with a May window. that then slipped to a June Window. Now it just says July. Still much sooner that my proposed Enyaq order. The sad/interest thing is that the shipping movements are closely monitored in the Tesla forums so you get to know when the next ship is due with cars on board. It gets addictive. Takes about a month to the UK. The world is finding out in so many ways how reliant we are on China either directly or indirectly.

I may have been lucky but my years with the Skoda have been pretty much trouble free and the dealer has been excellent! (there said it). The one time it did have a fault (glow plug relay) they diagnosed the fault, ordered the part, serviced the car all while I waited. They even rang me yesterday to see if I had any problems after the yellow warning light had come on due to low oil. In all the years of car ownership they have been the best at the other end of the scale is Ford. As for the Tesla model I have read many of the horrors. It does seem they want to ship it out first and fix later. Some of that might be because they are relativley young company working out what infrastrure they need/works in each country. Fingers crossed.

Nope you get what you have ordered but you and others all collect on the same day

There is a factory in the States that had the reputation of poor fit and finish. Then one in China which is much better and finally Giga Berlin that is just coming online, There are very few options and hence it makes it very easy to get high volume production. Two models long range & performance (not yet released). Options are paint, wheels (2 sizes) and self driving/auto pilot (this is not ready yet waiting for the SW to be written). I went for the long range, white paint and standard wheels. This pretty much equates to a fully loaded Enyaq Sportsline AWD. Tesla then ship them in bulk and drop them off to huge sites around the UK where you choose one and then have to travel and collect them. Everything is different to the standard dealership models. Wether it’s better or not is yet to be seen

Nope but the £100 deposit was put down on the 22nd Feb and estimated delivery date is 9th - 29th May. I’m yet to get the VIN once this is allocated it’s basically on a ship from China.

On car design EVs represent a chance to change the rule book with regard to packaging however safety and aero software throws out very similar designs. It would be nice to see something different, certainly no need for the driver to be behind the bonnet. What does worry me is the software aspect. There are countless things that happen even on the Kodiaq. None of it has been safety critical apart from the combined throttle lag/DSG/Halidex issues that have led me to misjudge junctions occasionally even after three years of ownership. The MY is at least getting regular updates but as far as I can tell but is needed due the added complexity of what Tesla’s are trying to deliver.

As I mentioned before I know this is going to be a marmite car, loads to love and loads to hate. I have driven both an did not find the MY that harsh. The right foot will need taming cos the car is quick, all very well but no good for the economy. However very welcome over the Kodiaq who’s throttle response is so laggy. I agree about the huge touch screen but it seems the way of things even in the Enyaq. The worst of it is not having the tactile feedback, I don’t mean click but the ability to realise that you have placed you finger in the correct place. I remember a really old Panasonic car stereo that had multifunction touch buttons but they were surrounded by finger guards so you knew without looking that you were in the right spot. Opening the glovebox via the screen seems mad but you can also use your voice. Again other cars seem to suffer from this, electric release rear seats, sounds great but is impractical as you inevitably end up having to back to the seats to clear the clutter so they can fold properly. The point for me is all these gimmicks add complexity and weight, motors, solenoids, switches, cable etc. At least there seems to be regular OTA updates.

The tow bar is an option that gets added after the car arrives. You just go online to their shop and purchase. It is for biking and towing a large trailer tent again carrying the bikes. I know this is going to hammer the range but it does with ICE too. It’s definitely going to make for an interesting camping summer holiday in France that has now been put off two times because of COVID. Fortunately the trailer tent is relatively easy to unhitch and move around. The main worry is security one advantage is that there probably won’t be much need for pre-conditioning the battery as it will be working harder.

Yep I reckon. It’s 30000 miles less localised pollution. Sure there is some at the power station but that it’s partially offset by renewables. As a company car driver it’s one more ICE that will become available in three years making them more accessible. I ordered just a couple of days ago and already have an estimated delivery date for May-June. Not bad in the middle of a chip shortage and the likes of the mini plant closing temporarily. But I guess that’s what happens when you are manufacturing at source (China).

Yes we are good for a a little while yet but once the switch off for ICE vehicles has happened where is the government going to get its cash? Looks like per-mile charging will be the way.

Yes agreed that the time is right for me regarding the EV jump. Is the biggest single thing I can do for the planet. Certainly don’t want to commit to another 3 years of burning stuff we can’t get back. The rising fuel prices are also making it more attractive every day. My struggle has been finding the right combination of size, range and price. Comming from the Kodiaq most EVs are smaller. The Enyak was almost the winner but the MY snuck in at the last minute

So the trustee steed for the last three years is making way to a Tesla model Y. I can tell you now no one is more surpised than I am with this desision. I have already seen enough to know that I'm about to embark on a Marmite journey, wether that is technology which I love (or will that be love to hate), design & looks that I dont. Why the jump... SuperCharger network: Reliability, Chargers and the cars. Backed up, if required by the non Tesla network Size: As large as an Enyaq, only fly in the ointmnet is the sweeping tailgate, but I dont load high or carry dogs etc. Toys: Well equipped although granted probably not well executed Lease costs: Very simalar pricing to an Enyaq Sportline, not sure why as it is more expensive to buy, points to the Tesla having better residules I guess Vehicle availability. Cons... Not sure what these will be yet but I have seen some... Rear tailgate visability No secondary dash (speedo), although as many have pointed there are loads of cars without this, Mini, various Citroens etc. Looks Technology for technolgies sake (goes for most cars now). Why do I need an electric glove box, fold down seats, fuel hatch etc. Lack of Buttons (goes for most cars now). Nothing like tactile feedback. The amount of times I have seen a touchscreen beep or flash to acknowledge a press and then not react to it. I just hope I'm not going to regret it. At least I will have a years mores EV experience that I would waiting for the Enyaq to arrive.

John999boy what did you do, or what do I need to do to link the videos properly? Using an iPad if that makes a difference.

Thanks for the vids quite a good round up here too… There's definately quite a bit not to like about the Tesla, it’s missing finesse in some areas

Comming to the end of my buisness lease on my Kodiaq I want to move to and EV and have long been eyeing up the Enyaq so much so I've got all the lease costs in etc. and was about to push the button after a test drive. I was looking at a SportLine with heat pump and towbar and was told that the vehicle won't be ready to end of the year and that means I have to commit to another years lease. So that has set me looking again at the alternatives. I'm a high miler, 30K PA. If I'm out driving the journeys are nearly always >100-200 in a day with occasional 300-500m round trips, so I need an EV that will do the distance Space is another criteria, I regulary fill the floor of the boot but don't go over the height of the rear seats that often Finally I tow a trailer tent a few times a year. Budget wise I did want to go over £50K and as I say all points to the Enyaq even though its boot is smaller than the Kodiaq. Then a clinet of mine said why not check out the Y. I had already ruled out Tesla on cost but I took a test drive and was quite surprised. Quick, very! but doing the mile I do I have to be light with the right foot. It was the space, huge Frunk, huge cubby under the boot floor and a reasonable size boot with a flat floor that gets emense with the rear seats down. One hinderence is the tailgate that cuts a lot of space off the top above the seats but I dont load that high that often so should be able to live with that. The view out of the rear window is applauling. I'm not a huge fan of nearly everything being touch controlled but many cars are going that way I think I just have to get used to that. I think the overall styling is a little bland. In addition to the regular charging network there is Teslas supercharger network. The fly in the ointment is the cost, well that's what I thought but under a buiness lease there is not much of a difference between the two and there is a lot more tech as standard on the Y. Any thoughts?

The cynic in me makes me think they are trying to big up certain options when in actual fact many of the items are there in the base build. Then there is the amount of effort or rather lack of it in actually describing the options. Can’t even get the translator to work properly (just take a look at the description of the heat pump option). As for the descriptions of the interiors and pictures I really can’t figure what to choose there.

I’ve been looking too as my Kodiaq lease expires next spring. The 125kw charging now appears to be standard. When you start digging there are a lot of items that are described in the options packs that are standard it’s all a bit misleading.

Im a little wave off yet but a high miler and 250+ per day several times a week is not uncommon. Occasionally I might do 400 plus. At at the moment I’ll happily sit at 70+ all day I know there are going to have to be some changes and compromises that might lead to the odd adventure and I quite like the thought. how much adaptation or change in driving style should I expect from ICE to BEV?

So go on then what are they like to live with? What range are you getting? Has you driving style changed?

I guess the point is the description on the website doesn’t fully describe what it does and then that is backed up by the lack of knowledge at the dealerships. For the high milers out there this is an easy £1000 option to sell based on additional efficiency. With BEVs being new and exciting you would think they would be all over it Now that they are beginning to appear on the roads it will be very interesting to see how the cars fair and what the issues are. I already fear the software side of things

No that’s perfect and exactly what I thought it did.

When the dealer checked on the website to see if the description of the option had been updated to give more detail it had not but it did show that picture and I commented that it looked like it did the cabin too. He said it didn't. I then discussed this with the leasing company who also said the same. I know its a new motor but you think there would be better information out there.

So here I am in the dealership having my Kodiaq serviced and having a paw around an Enyaq they have in the showroom. I asked about the heat pump option and two people have said it is as described in the options list, that is it only heats the batteries? I can't see that it must do the cabin too right? If your batteries are that cold the cabin will be too, so the demand for heating will also be high why not use the efficency of a heat pump to maintain the range in both regards?