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  1. In my posting of 26 April 2024 in this earlier BRISKODA forum topic I described how to fully lower the glove-box of a Fabia Mk4 to gain access to the cabin pollen filter. https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/516188-fusebox-opening-on-mk4-fabia/ And in a later (2025) forum topic (link below) I described in some detail how to replace the filter. https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/533659-replacing-ac-filter/#comment-5954971
  2. When I bought my Fabia Mk4 new in March 2024 I asked the salesman about servicing time-intervals. I was told that, for low-mileage cars (as mine would definitely be) an oil/filter change would be required at 1-year, as opposed to 2-years for a car that covered a significantly higher mileage, and that a message would appear on the car's instrument cluster when the date for a service approached - and that's what has happened. With an annual mileage of less than 2000, PongoBongo's car will (like my car) qualify for an oil/filter change at 12 months and another at 24-months. And, based on the cost of my car's first service (at 12 months) the £299 of his Service Pack should provide a useful financial saving over two 'same type' full-price Skoda dealership services (that should include a lot more actions/checks than just changing the engine-oil and oil-filter). I'd expect PongoBongo's car to recalculate its servicing schedule over time (mine does) but I can't see that matters much when it's clear that his car will require servicing at 12 and 24 months within the Service Plan's lifespan.
  3. This earlier BRISKODA thread may be of interest In my final posting on that thread I said I believed that what you want to do was not possible with a Fabia Mk4. As nobody contradicted this, it's probably true. 🙂
  4. The B1916F4 code was also discussed on the BRISKODA Scala sub-forum https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/533271-backup-battery-service-life-critical/#comment-5951331 (I think the location of the back-up battery was not covered.) GOOGLE AI Overview below: Fault code B1916F4 indicates a "Backup battery - Service life critical" error in the Telematics (SOS/eCall) module, commonly affecting VW Group vehicles (VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat). This means the internal, rechargeable battery for the emergency call system has failed, degraded, or cannot hold a charge, requiring replacement. Key Information regarding B1916F4: Symptoms: "Emergency call function: fault" message on the dash, red SOS light, and potential battery drain if the system tries to charge the dead backup unit. Cause: The small, internal battery within the SOS control module (often located under the roof console or rear bench) has reached the end of its life (typically 3–6 years). Fix: The physical battery must be replaced (part number 3G091589 is common). Software Requirement: After physical replacement, the new battery must be initialized using a diagnostic tool like ODIS to clear the "service life critical" status, otherwise the fault code will remain. DIY Note: While the battery can be replaced physically, the necessary software reset makes this difficult without professional tools.
  5. There have been several recent UK reviews of the Fabia 130 (example article here) https://www.carenthusiast.com/reviews/article/13963/-/2026-Skoda-Fabia/First+drive%3A+130.html Regarding the 130's higher power output. the article says: (Skoda is) proud to say this is more than a simple ECU reflash of the 1.5. Skoda's Technical Development team changed the four-pot motor's intake plenum, vibration damper and its rocker arms to gain the extra horses, and the 177hp iteration of the TSI Evo2 is now a unique-to-Skoda specification of this turbo petrol engine in the entire VW Group. Furthermore, the 130 has a retuned seven-speed DSG 'box (yes, we know, sad times: there is no six-speed manual transmission option for the fleet-footed Fabia) with higher shift points for quicker acceleration, double-clutch downshifts in Sport mode for smoother gear-changes, and modified braking logic for punchier re-acceleration. Skoda also says it has worked on the exhaust system to give the Fabia 130 a beefier voice than a regular 150hp 1.5. This £400 tuning module would provide (advertised) power/torque increases from 150PS/250Nm to 191PS/328Nm. https://bluesparkautomotive.com/vw-tiguan-1-5-tsi-150ps
  6. The size of the Fabia "Swing" unit's display is 6.5". So, if you are primarily interested in having a satellite-navigation capability, you might consider using a stand-alone sat-nav device with a similar size screen - eg. a Garmin DriveSmart 66 - and have it sit on a 'bean-bag' mount on the dashboard. https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/720419/ Evidently the Swing unit in your 2022 Fabia cannot be tweaked to run Apple CarPlay and replacing that unit would be a task that Skoda dealerships are most unlikely to agree to carry out (as you've found). A stand-alone sat-nav would work immediately, require no surgery or significant rewiring and have life-time map updating. Regarding the phone-mount, this earlier discussion may be of interest https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/535139-fabia-mk4-phone-mount-is-there-such-a-thing/ I bought a Yesido C242 mount very cheaply through the advert below and shortened slightly the part that attaches to my car's central air vent so it gets a better grip. https://www.sunsky-online.com/p/CAR7945/Yesido-C242-Adjustable-Car-Air-Vent-Mechanical-Phone-Clip-Holder.htm
  7. The UK Skoda car warranty terms and conditions can be found here https://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/warranty
  8. Presumably you have lifted the floor of the boot and checked that there is nothing loose underneath? You've said "I'm reluctant to take the car to a dealer as I'm very doubtful if the rattle would be investigated as part of the warranty". But the rattle could be a symptom of a serious mechanical issue and, if you can easily demonstrate the noise to a Skoda dealership (and as your car is so new) I can't see why they should refuse to investigate the issue free of charge. If you don't ask, you won't get...
  9. I've no experience of your Service Plan. However, based on my own Fabia Mk4 that I bought new in March 2024 (and that I've hardly used since due to personal circumstances) I believe you are over-worrying. At present, as you've owned your Fabia for just 4 months, the car cannot 'know' what mileage you will be covering in it and cannot calculate whether you are a low-, medium- or high-mileage owner. The standard service time-interval is 2 years, but, as the your car's 1st anniversary approaches and the car 'realises' that it has covered under 2000 miles, it will begin to issue 'count down' dashboard messages saying that an oil-service is due in X-number of days. And, as the 2nd anniversary approaches (and if you've continued to do the same sort of mileage) the same thing will happen.
  10. These links (there are plenty more on-line) explain the procedures involved in rejecting a new car https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/rejecting-a-car/ https://stormcatcher.co.uk/automotive-law/reject-a-car/ https://www.themotorombudsman.org/knowledge/what-do-i-need-to-do-if-i-reject-my-new-car/
  11. This is a 3-cylinder motor and, consequently, a mite 'lumpy' at tick-over - but it should otherwise be quite quiet and definitely not sound "like a bag of spanners". And the oil consumption SHOULD be low. My 2023 Fabia Owner's Manual says "...the engine may consume up to 0.5l/1000km. Consumption may be higher over the first 5000km". 0.5l/1000km equates to 1.0 litre per 1240 miles - that's a lot of oil and a modern car that's covered 7000 miles in 3 years should be fully run-in and not be using anywhere near that amount. If the cam-belt had 'jumped', I would have thought this would have been very noticeable where the motor's behaviour and the car's performance were concerned. As this is a 3rd-hand enquiry ("Not my car - a friend’s asked about his colleague’s Audi A1 with this engine") the sensible thing would be to advise the Audi's owner to have the car inspected by an Audi dealership while it is (apparently) still under warranty and before a major failure occurs.
  12. The operating conditions of a Fabia Mk4's Corner Function are listed in my 1st posting above. I'm not convinced that enabling the function on my car would benefit me. The main 'selling point' seems to be the function's automation, but - as the car's headlights need to have their low beam turned on for the function to operate - there should be plenty of light in front of my car to spot any obstacles. In the unlikely event that I felt the fog-lights being on might be helpful, a quick pull on the switch would turn both of them on and a quick push would turn them back off - and I'm perfectly capable of doing that.
  13. I just wanted confirmation that the 'cornering lights' function (that would involve the low-level halogen fog-lights) of my 2024 Fabia Mk4 had been disabled at the Skoda factory or whether it not working was a fault - and your reply suggests that the former is the case. The OBDeleven website advertises a One Click App for enabling the cornering lights function but the advert refers to 2021-2023 cars https://obdeleven.com/customizations/skoda/fabia/2021-2023/cornering-lights Coincidently, shortly after my forum postings above, I was parked in the street opposite a supermarket exit and recent-ish VW and SEAT cars turning left out of the exit all had their left low-level fog-light come on as they did so. After that, I noticed lots more cars/vans (of various makes) had this cornering-lights function operating in daylight and rapidly decided that I disliked it. Plus - given the low light output of my car's bumper-mounted halogen fog-lights - I was also doubtful that, even at night, the function would have genuine value for me.
  14. Best of luck. It's perhaps worth adding that the same dash-panel fuse-box images and explanation of the purpose of the fuses apparently occur in all the Fabia Mk4 Owner's Manuals up to and including the latest 2026/3 production period. The dash-panel fuse-box has the potential to house 61 fuses, but my 2024 Mk4 SE L DSG's fuse-box carries just 30 (17 mini fuses and 13 of the larger type). I've tried to match my car's fuses to the explanation in the Manual, but the only fuse I can be 100% certain about so far is the blue 15A Fuse 52 (Cigarette lighter/12V socket at front) as I accidentally blew it and needed to replace it. Obviously the number of fuses will vary according to a Fabia's individual specification and, if a fuse is found to have blown, provided that it is replaced on a like-for-like basis and doesn't blow again, it may not matter too much knowing what the fuse is protecting. I'd still like to know that in advance though...
  15. A correction... I notice that I referred to the smaller fuses as "MICRO-blade" type. They are, in fact, MINI fuses. https://www.swe-check.com.au/editorials/blade_fuse_sizes.php Three of the larger fuses in my Fabia Mk4's dashboard fuse-box are marked "40s". There is some on-line discussion about 40s fuses (example here) https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMechanics/comments/145ipev/2019_tiguan_uses_40s_fuse/ but the only advert for them I can find is this one. eBay UKStinger MAX 40S Maxi-type fuse 40amp krome finish - pack...Pack of 3 maxi-style fuses - 40amp protection. High conductivity, krome colour plating. Use with maxi-style fuseholders. Does any forum-member KNOW what difference there is between a Maxi 40 and a Maxi 40s fuse (other than the latter having an "s" on it)? 40A 'slow blow' fuses are widely available (example advert below) but they have a completely different design. Fuse - J Type Slow Blow - Green - 40A | Buy PWN804 and Wo...We sell PWN804 for 3.55 GBP in the UK. Buy real Wot-nots online from Autoshop. Fuse - J Type Slow Blow - Green - 40A. 1x Pearl Slow Blow Fuse.
  16. This August 2023 BRISKODA thread discussed removal of the small drop-down storage-box so that the fuse-box behind it can be accessed. You'll see that I initially misunderstood what was being asked about and provided instructions on how to fully lower the glove-box (on the passenger side) so that the cabin air-filter can be replaced. And (like you) when I tried to remove the little storage-box, I was unable to do so. The advice in this May 2025 discussion goes into much more detail and, since then, I've removed the storage-box several times. I start by lowering the storage-box so that the plastic 'hooks' on the base of the storage-box unit align with their plastic 'hinges' on the bottom of the dashboard opening. I then grasp the right-hand side of the storage-box firmly and forcefully wrench the right-hand corner of the storage-box straight out. This detaches the right-hand hook from its hinge and the left-hand hook should then easily come free. (You do need to be brutal and abrupt, but however hard you pull the box it's unlike to cause damage.) To put the storage-box back, I line up the plastic 'hooks' and 'hinges' and give a a firm whack on each side of the storage-box to drive each hook into its hinge. This January 2026 thread may also be of interest as I included a photo of my car's dashboard fuse-box and commented The fuse-box on RHD Fabia Mk 4 cars (and possibly on LHD cars too) is set far back, many of the micro-blade fuses are close together and accessing the fuse-box is through a quite small hole in the dashboard panel. So, unless you have a tame octopus and have trained it to manipulate Skoda's fuse-puller tool, it's far simpler and easier to use needle-nose pliers instead.
  17. My comment about the plastic 'sealing block' was just a casual caveat. I'm not going to fit bonnet-struts to my Fabia Mk4, but it seemed worth pointing out the potential strut-to-block contact issue to bertj who is considering doing so. (If the strut contacted the 'sealing block' so hard that shutting the bonnet properly/easily was inhibited, surgery on the block would obviously be necessary.) I was (and am) doubtful that anyone on the BRISKODA forum would have fitted bonnet-struts to a Fabia Mk4, which is why I suggested bertj use the Dark Ice Designs Facebook group to discuss installation and see if Fabia Mk4 owners who had fitted a strut-kit could comment. There are other strut-kit advertisers, but Dark Ice Designs should be the best bet for obtaining technical and Fabia owner advice. There are also Facebook groups for Skoda Fabia owners that bertj might consider joining to see if anyone there can comment on fitting bonnet-struts to Mk4 cars. https://www.facebook.com/groups/467331588909685/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/1548312822075985/?locale=en_GB (The image below is of a Fabia Mk3 with Dark Ice Designs bonnet-struts. It should be apparent that there are no plastic sealing-blocks and the (green indicated) spaces appear to be large enough to allow the struts to retract neatly when the bonnet is lowered.)
  18. As bertJ has said, there are several on-line advertisers of bonnet-strut kits for Skoda Fabia Mk4 models and the asking-price can vary dramatically. Dark Ice Designs (advert in my 1st posting above) is a UK-registered company and their Fabia Mk4 strut-kit can be obtained through ebay. Their advert mentions that Stabilus gas-struts are used and these have an excellent reputation for high quality and longevity. The firm also has a Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/darkicedesigns/ that could be used to gain feedback from any Fabia Mk4 owners who have fitted the kit, or to obtain more information from the supplier about the kit. Although I occasionally buy directly from advertisers based in China (eg. AliExpress) accepting that an ultra-low price may well not be matched with ultra high quality, if I were considering fitting bonnet-struts to my Fabia, I'd be much more confident opting for the Dark Ice Designs kit, rather than risk 'going Chinese' at a bargain price and being disappointed. Based on advertising images of the Fabia Mk4 kit, one thing worth investigating would be the struts' position after the bonnet is closed. As will be seen from the photo below, there is a firm-ish plastic 'sealing block' each side of the engine-compartment and it looks like, when the bonnet is closed, the strut will contact the plastic block.
  19. I wasn't aware of that capability, but it seems like a sensible idea even if someone doesn't have a problem simultaneously holding the bonnet up and engaging the very long bonnet-stay in the hole in the bonnet's underside. The advert on the link below shows the two struts in place and - for forum-members who don't own or are unfamiliar with the Fabia Mk4 - the position and length of the standard bonnet-stay (yellow-ended and stretching right across the front of the engine compartment) should be apparent. Dark Ice DesignsSkoda Fabia mk4 PJ 2021+ Bonnet Hood Gas Strut lifter kitThis is a bolt-on bonnet gas strut kit for the Skoda Fabia mk4 2021+ - no drilling or welding required. Replace your metal stay with the highest quality Stabilus gas struts - making it easier to w
  20. There has been some past BRISKODA discussions about the "component protection active" message. https://www.briskoda.net/forums/search/?&q=%22component%20protection%20active%22&search_and_or=or This 2022 BRISKODA discussion was in the Kodiaq Mk 1 forum https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/504653-component-protection-active-in-infotainment-columbus-92/ and included this final comment Component protection is designed to prevent (deter) people from stealing head units. Each unit is coded to a particular vehicle and this message will come up if a head unit has been put in a different vehicle. But sometimes these highly computerised cars just like to do random things at random times for no apparent reason before reverting back to normal I notice that the 'disconnecting/reconnecting the battery' ploy was mentioned in the discussion as a way to get rid of the message, so you could try that to see if it works with your car (and, possibly, might also correct the 01.01.1970 problem). On the other hand, if you plan to involve a Skoda dealer with sorting out the problems you are having with your car's display-screen, it might be best to let them investigate/diagnose the faults, rather than trying to do it yourself.
  21. January 1, 1970 (01.01.1970) is the UNIX Epoch, serving as a foundational "date zero" for UNIX-based computers and many programming languages, and acts as a default date-value when systems encounter errors or missing date inputs. The phenomenon is not confined to vehicles, but can also occur on smartphones and computers that use a UNIX-type operating system. Where cars are concerned, it isn't just Skoda or VW Group vehicles that can be affected. This link is to a Vauxhall "Mokka" forum discussion https://www.mokkaownersclub.co.uk/threads/time-and-date-change-overnight.4692/ and includes this posting. Now having this problem too. Mokka X, 2016, elite. When the engine is turned on the clock has reset its self to 0.00, and the date to 01/01/1970. This has happened everyday now for the last week. Using the touchscreen I reset the date and time for each trip, all is well for the journey, until the engine is turned off then it goes back to 1970 and 0.00, is anyone able to help please? My 2024 Fabia has an Amundsen infotainment unit, but (based on your photo) I think your car has a Bolero. When the sort of problem you have is discussed on-line, it's sometimes suggested that the car-owner sets the date and time manually (rather than choosing the GPS option) and that he/she ensures that a correct geographic region is selected. Conversely, it's sometimes suggested that GPS rather than setting the date/time manually is worth trying (!!!) or (as mentioned on the Vauxhall Mocca forum) that the car's battery be disconnected, left disconnected for a while and then reconnected, in the hope that this will 'reboot' the system and clear the problem. In your case you've said that the date-change only occurs "sometimes" when you start your car. As you are having other problems with your car's infotainment unit https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/534312-infotainment-fabia-22-plate/ if you cannot cure the 01.01.1970 fault by playing around with your Fabia's time/date settings (or by 'rebooting' the system by disconnecting/reconnecting its battery) you should add this fault to the other problems you'll need to tell your Skoda dealer about.
  22. 6 hours ago bazz2004 said Most contributors to the forum threads I've posted on don't even own a Fabia 4... That's indeed the case, but the specification of my 2024 Fabia Mk4 closely matches his car's - same 1.0litre motor, same battery - except mine has a DSG automatic transmission and (I think) his has a manual gearbox. The starter-battery in my car is EFB-type and manufactured by Varta for the VW Group. It is 063H size (Length=207mm, Width=175mm, Height =190mm) and has no insulating sleeve/cover around it. Nowadays the rule-of-thumb lifespan of a good quality wet-acid battery is expected to be 4-5 years, with 5-6 years for an EFB battery and 6-7 years for an AGM battery. The standard Varta 49Ah EFB battery should be adequate for a Skoda Fabia Mk4 with the 1.0litre motor, but I agree that, if the car is not regularly driven a reasonable distance, the battery will lose charge fairly quickly. bazz2004 regularly uses a CTEK battery-charger to keep his car's battery well charged: I do too and I wouldn't be confident that - if the car were locked/alarmed and unused for 2 weeks - that it would start. (My previous 2021 Hyundai i20 was similar, with Hyundai advising that, if it was anticipated that the car were to be out of use for a fortnight or longer, the battery should be disconnected.) I'm certainly not going to attempt to dissuade bazz2004 from swapping his car's EFB battery for an AGM battery. A Yuasa YBX9012 AGM would be a direct replacement and available for (say) £107-£140. https://www.yuasa.com/uk/ybx9012 Fitting should be straightforward and, personally (aged 82 and weighing 53.5kg) I'd have no difficulty removing/replacing a Fabia Mk4's 16kg battery. But then, of course, there would be a need to 'register' the new AGM battery and I do not have the equipment (or inclination) to attempt that task. bazz2004's Fabia has now broken down twice (once in early-2025, and again recently) and his car ran, seemingly without any issues between the 2025 and 2026 incidents and, after the latest breakdown, is apparently now running OK again. In both cases, the AA technician found fault codes and, having 'wiped' the codes the car apparently ran properly. The 2nd time the car broke down, the fault codes found were P060600, P0299900, P063800. Those codes do not directly point to a battery issue and it's interesting that, in both instances, the AA technician - simply by 'wiping' the codes - was immediately able to restore the car to full working order. It's POSSIBLE that replacing the present EFB battery (either with another EFB or an AGM type) might prevent another similar breakdown occurring. But as the car is now running fine, a Skoda dealer will be unable to investigate a non-existing fault. It's unrealistic to expect a dealer to place any credence on the fault codes the AA technician found, nor - if a Skoda dealer agrees to hook up the car to their diagnostic equipment, finds no fault codes or fault history data - to continue to investigate free of charge. If the present EFB battery is now found to below par for the car's age, Skoda might authorise a 'good will' replacement but only on a like-for-like basis. (That used to be the standard Hyundai dealer response when an owner's i20 had Start-Stop issues.) Fabia Mk4 system updates are OTA (Over the Air) and, although it should be practicable for a Skoda dealership to confirm that bazz2004's car is 'fully up-to-date', I'm uncertain whether that would help. My own view is that, if my Fabia Mk4's battery has enough charge in its battery to start the car and the starting process is 'normal' (ie. starting is quick with strong cranking) then the car should behave normally while it is being driven. It's to be expected that, until the battery reaches the appropriate state-of-charge threshold, Start-Stop won't function. But I don't believe that a battery able to start the car satisfactorily, but not 100% charged, will result in the vehicle's electrical system spontaneously 'glitching', nor, if the system is recognisably 'glitchy', that it's the battery's charge-state that's the culprit. (Some of my Fabia's equipment isn't wonderfully intuitive and sometimes gives the impression that it has a mind of its own, but that's not 'glitchy' in my book and I can always understand what's happened even though I may not like it!) In bazz2004's case it's Catch-22. If he goes it alone, has an AGM replacement battery installed and the car never breakdowns again, then going EFB-to-AGM may have provided a cure. If it does breakdown similarly again within the warranty period, it should be transported to a Skoda dealership while the fault is present (and without an AA technician playing with the car) for an 'official' investigation - but then there might be controversy about the replacement AGM battery. UK Fabia Mk4 owners may well be aware of this, but, besides the car's own 'In an Emergency' system, Skoda Assistance can be contacted on 0330 100 3243 And the following link provides some in-depth information on Start-Stop batteries and the possible need to 'register' replacement batteries. https://www.bannerbatterien.com/en/Battery-knowledge/7-HOW-TO-In-an-emergency-without-a-BEM-code
  23. This 2025 YouTube video relates to replacing a Skoda Octavia VRS's standard EFB+ starter-battery with an AGM equivalent. (A similar EFB-to-AGM procedure would apply for a Fabia Mk4.)
  24. The starter-battery factory-fitted to my 2024 Fabia SE L DSG (1.0litre motor) is the Varta EFB+ (Enhanced Flooded Battery) shown in this advert. https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/000915089aa-car-battery-efb-12v-49ah-skoda-48154.html This is a relatively compact 012-size battery with dimensions of Length=207mm, Width=175mm, Height=190mm, but my car's battery-tray has two extra threaded holes and it's evident that a longer 027-battery (Length=242mm) or an even longer 096-battery (Length=278mm) could be installed instead. It wouldn't in the least surprise me if Fabia Mk4 cars with the 1.5litre motor and/or marketed in 'cold-weather' countries have longer batteries than my car's, but I've no reason to think Skoda would switch from EFB to AGM as well. This 2020 BRISKODA thread discussed replacing an Octavia Mk3's battery https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/486589-octavia-mkiii-startstop-battery-replaced-without-any-coding/ In 'The Good Old Days', if a 12V starter-battery could be shoehorned in, then its size or type was irrelevant - but Start/Stop and complex electronics have complicated matters. Regarding battery replacement, the my Fabia's Manual just says "The new 12V battery must have the same specifications as the original battery". So I'd expect replacing the Varta EFB+ 49Ah battery shown in the advert on an exact like-for-like basis to not require any subsequent 'recoding'. And (maybe) replacing the Varta EFB+ battery with another make of EFB battery with the same dimensions but slightly different capacity might also not make recoding necessary. But if the Varta battery were replaced with a physically larger battery EFB battery with a substantially greater capacity, I'd expect recoding to be needed and, if the Varta EFB battery were replaced with a an AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat) battery, recoding should definitely be carried out.
  25. There is evidence that it is possible on certain Skoda models to use VCDS or OBDeleven to alter the length of time that rear-window heating or exterior-mirrors heating continues. For example, these links relate to earlier Fabia vehicles. https://obdeleven.com/customizations/skoda/fabia/2007-2010/mirror-heating-time?srsltid=AfmBOoo148qAbmFUv7cdKyLN-ucGlFGCCI8idkyzllpvR09mmpBHYsFf https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/78661-timer-for-heated-mirrors/ My 2024 Fabia's Owner's Manual warns "Risk of getting burned! Do not touch the heated exterior mirror glass." So, logically, if the glass can get that hot, it's best not to have mirror-heating turned on unless it's actually needed. When I turn on my Fabia's or Roomster's rear-window heating, the button that does this is (reasonably) visible and this 'encourages' me to turn off the heating when it's no longer required. That's not the case with exterior-mirrors heating: the control can easily be left in its heating position and there's no 'encouragement' to move it. As has been observed many times, if it were more apparent when the control was in its heating position (eg. a little LED on the control) the chances of leaving the heating on unnecessarily would be minimised.

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