Sullyman

As I am not part of the class action will I get an money when VW/Skoda and fined and told to give compensation?

So update. I had the car DSG oil changed on time. Was asked to sign a letter that offered the "fix" and of course I said NO! How many more times will they keep on? What is happening with the current class action? Car still not fixed and goes really well. MPG still around 43.6mpg and most times use revs up to 2,500.

Hi voxmagna, I was trying to assist S00perb and your comments add to that so thanks. I am not sure what S00perb had done, but now he can evaluate his changes. Maybe he asks the provider will there be any impact if he does have the fix. What have other people found??

That's my belief, let's see if anyone else knows anything? Else the government would have a huge job getting everyone to advise re any remap or change - which does not happen.

Hi S00perb, thought you had had the "fix". Right if not then your own remap is still there and as you say does what you want it to do. Re VED, I am relaxed as the VED is set when you buy the car and never changes as far as I know.

Hi S00perb, if you have now had the fix, then I think this will over write your own remap. So you may now have a "standard Superb" back in your pocession. So whatever the remap cost has now gone, if I am right. Anyone got a view??

I am also sceptical - "they will consider the complaint very seriously" then say no. In my case my car has done 140k miles so I would not get the 2 year warranty. From all I read then the "technical measure" does effect the engine. On the BBC this week then had an A4 which had been rolling roaded before and after the "technical measure" and it was different to the owner and was only after very minimal mileage. So again, I am not having the fix.

CWARD, again ta for this real world stuff. As I said in my previous post, I drive most of the time 1,500 to 2,500 revs and so as you say this is not why I bought my car. BTW it is a VRS estate like your brothers and goes really well under 2,500 revs. No fix for me!

Hi 05surveyor, I have done alot of miles, as I said 140k in 7 years. I did 300 yesterday to Cornwall on business and back in one day. I do keep a manual log of fuel so hence I do no my exact usage. That suits me, whatever suits you - then fine. As I said most of my limes is at the "wrong" revs for this fix. The engine was not designed for this map and my extended warranty does not cover the 2 items that seem to fail - EGR value and DPF. So I will not have the "fix" Ta again re real world stuff.

Hi 05surveyor, ta for this running update - it is good to see a real world view. I have worked out that most of my driving, aside from start off and acceleration is between 1,500 and 2,500 revs. Now if this is where the revised map, reduces power (people and articles say below 2500, odd that torque was 1750 to 2500!!) then I will find my driving affected. BTW I have a running average of 43.3 MPG - now done 140k miles. Lets see what happens. Ta again.

I have never in all my trawling's heard that one re "only remapped cars are effected" This is a Red Herring - sorry for the pun!! As you say, come on anyone who has had the fix - did you have a remap before!! Engine was not designed for defeat device fix and so engines or parts will fail is my view.

This is a must see!

Hi All, ta for the various replies. I am now more comfortable about where I go and what I do. Cheers!

Hi Bignij, no not that I have seen. The fix is optional, not a safety thing nor a real recall, so it is left to each person to decide - this is how I see it. Only comment is, that if you do not tell your dealer you do not want the fix, they will simply apply it at your next service or repair as a matter of course - watch out!

Ta Wino, I have moved a great way today to understand things. I am an objective guy this all makes sense to me now. Ta again.

Ta Wino, so really this all means to me that the engine was not designed for this remap. My car has done 138k miles now so ripe for a EGR or DPF fault it seems to me. Getting near the 155k that seems to be the figure talked about by VW/Skoda for used cars whereby they will offer a warranty. Any warranty for me would loast maybe 3 months then ££££££££ through no fault of mine. So again, not covered by my purchased warranty, little cover from VW/Skoda so no thnaks I will stick where I am and think of changing the car!

Hi The Hood and All, Really good stuff here. I am following the EA189 pages re the fix, but The Hood words are spot on to me and NO I will not be having the "fix" done. See the other words on: “ All the best.

Hi All, Just followed the Awayoffski link and read this from The Hood The fix appears to alter the injector pattern lowering the combustion temperature. This reduces the low end torque, uses slightly more fuel, and produces more soot. This soot puts more strain on the EGR and DPF and causes more regenerations by the DPF so an increased tick over and fans running on after turning off the engine may be noticed. With a low mileage or fairly new vehicle there may not be an immediate problem but the EGR and DPF have a finite "life" and the fix appears to reduce this, so even if you have had the fix carried out and currently notice no change, it could prove otherwise later on, either before or after you sell the vehicle on. That is a real and good explanation to me. The Hood is asking for more detail and on the link you will see the replies!!!!!!!!!

Just had my Skoda letter to get the fix. I think not. Also as I have extended warranty I assumed (what does assume mean!) that they would have a view on what to do re costs for EGR and turbo issue costs. They do not it seems its up to me to decide. Bet that any claim is going to be meet with a raft of questions and caveats!

I have just read in a car magazine the following: Your findings that showed VW's diesel emissions recall has brought a fuel penalty are no great surprise to powertrain engineers. Without resorting to the expensive addition of selective catalytic reduction (SCR) after-treatment (which does not harm fuel economy buts adds the cost of AdBlue) there are only two engine management reprogramming measures available to cut NOx. One is to increase the exhaust gas recirculation rate. The other - which no one seems to talk about, but which VW must know about - is to retard injection timing. Both reduce combustion efficiency, though, bringing down the critical high peak combustion temperature that creates the undesirable (and law-breaking) NOx So did VW knows this and so save money by not going for an AdBlue solution??

Hi, I read an article about a typical lady in USA who had her 2.0lt DSG fixed. It said that she had to keep it is sport mode to get the same take-off and acceleration she used to have before the fix was installed. Also she said that low speed torque was down and she used more petrol. So just as I thought and consistent with many comments above. I will not have the fix then. My car drives really well from low revs thank you.

I was thinking

CWARD - your comments seems spot on to me. I think I may now register with the firm of solicitors who are in for a class action case and see. I think it is a no win no fee!

Hi Paul007, no the web site I looked at is the Honest John web site: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/volkswagen-emissions-scandal/8-reports-of-volkswagen-tiguans-losing-power-after-ea189-emissions-fix/ Take a look and see what the thread says.