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Continental was one I remember, they built a factory on a reclaimed colliery site. I did work for both the WAG on the wider area and continental in Germany on the site.

"would agree with this but so much money from the EU used to improve infrastructure which then allows business to relocate" I spent several years working on such projects in Wales.

People voted against the status quo. At the end of the process we won't have the status quo, therefore it will be what people voted for. What we didn't have in 2016 was an idea of what something else was. Now we don't have any idea of what something else will be, in 5 to 10 years we might, or then again we might not. Therefore no one is allowed an opinion on it as we have decided?

Given that some of the poorest parts of the EU are in the UK and large amounts of money have been spent doing just that in the UK.

it is very difficult for anyone to sign up hundreds of times, or more than just a few. They put a lot of effort into weeding out dubious entries. Early on the total number went down several times as they purged such attempts.

I accept your apology.

Also having had a general election and a referendum, the brexit mob spent 40 YEARS COMPLAINING until they had another go. Oh and the petition is now up to 1.15 million.

No, not like that. More like you made a statement which was demonstrably false and when I pointed it out you went straight for the whataboutery.

It was in the Conservative manifesto in 1970, they got a majority, therefore the country did.

I'm not defending the EU, they may well be wrong on this. The IARC classed it as Class 2A, which means it is a probably carcinogen, together with 81 other things, which includes red meat and being a hairdresser. They list 120 things which are known to be carginogenic. Carcinogen classification is a seriously heavy subject. There is the whole hazard versus risk argument, the process to establish whether there is a safe level etc. etc. It should be noted that the UK government lobbied the EU to grant the approval extension.

The stuff the public can buy is lower strength than that "professionals" can get. Even that has been limited. About 10 years ago you could kill Japanese Knotweed pretty much with one application of the strong stuff, but now you are looking at at least three applications over two growing seasons. Whether the over the counter stuff is enough to cause cancer for a normal person compared to someone who used it for a living is a different matter. Could you get exposed to enough to significantly increase your risk of leukaemia or other cancer, especially compared to all the other potential exposures due to poor air quality, diet, smoking etc.

There are the veggies and maybe drinking water, there is also home use. It has been known to kill fish very efficiently and the use and the available strength has been restricted because of it for years now.

He does loads more than that, he is member of various working groups, trade bodies, standards committees for BSi, I didn't bother copying the full entry from one website. The list also didn't include the work he did for the group whose website it was.

Well the US would want us to ditch the precautionary principle as part of a trade deal. The approach to regulation in the US is part of the reason why you end up with court cases like that.

He is a busy man. CEO and MD of two companies, he is an active contributor to two All-Party Parliamentary Groups, four Westminster Think-Tanks and the Department for International Trade. His interests are as an Author, in Physics, International Business, Social Justice, the Constitution, South Asia, International & Strategic Affairs, Defence, the British Commonwealth and bringing UK Scientists into business. He is actually a director of 4 companies. Coltraco is a truncation of the Colonial Trading Company. Coltraco is also a small business, but the details on companies house don't match the information on their website.

He is very careful with his words. When asked about the impact of no deal he says it might cause a few problems in the short term, but he is sure we can reach a deal to sort them out. When it is pointed out that we don't deal with countries like the US only on WTO terms he waffles and doesn't answer the question, as he does with a number of other questions. He says a lot but often doesn't actually address the question. A lot of what he says is very similar to a speech he gave at Conservative Way Forward where he followed the disgraced former defence secretary. Very rousing, Britannia rules the waves and all that, 1945, Churchill etc. etc. He is also associated with, or part of the Bruges Group. Let us say that the these two groups have a quite particular view of the EU and the latter seem to like right wing US political groups as well as Nigel Farage. The Bruges Group latest event was titled "A Budget for Brexit" and featured speakers such as John Redwood and everyone's favourite economist Patrick Minford as well as the Chair of Leave Means Leave, John Longworth. So it would appear he was there more as a Brexit supporter rather than an exporter. He is also a member of the Conservative Foreign & Commonwealth Council, which is affiliated to the conservative party and describes itself thus: The purpose of the Conservative Foreign & Commonwealth Council is to provide a forum for the discussion of international relations to promote greater understanding and awareness. We visit embassies and high commissions and host events in Parliament.

If the EU falls apart we are screwed, in or out. Unless we have already burnt everything to the ground, in which case we might offer to share a few rats if we have any spare.

Why did you vote out? There is no over and done with it, there will be no over and done with it. Unless you can move the UK somewhere else on the globe, our relationship with the EU is going to consume a huge amount of government capacity for years and years and years. It will impact business for years to come. It will overshadow anything and everything the government tries do, be it the NHS, social care, industrial policy, it will suck the life out of everything. After 3 years we don't know what we want.

Amputate the body, leaving the limb. This is the start, hard or soft brexit, this is going to get a lot harder for the next 5-10 years and be all comsuming. It's not being done with a butter knife, it's doing it with a herring.

you want a hard Brexit?

No, May is perfectly willing to burn the country to the ground, as long as the conservative party remains a single charred body afterwards.

It is the only thing on offer which meets May's red lines, if the red lines were to change then what the EU could offer would change. Remember the current backstop is there because of the explicit wish of the UK government.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

They Do Not Support Your Argument! It is quite simple, make argument, then provide actual supporting evidence. What you have done is provide links to sites which don't, or copy and paste text, such as from the New European website, which appears to support your argument only because they are deliberately taken out of context or are incomplete. So we can now stop, take a breath and consider whether to continue on the same disingenuous merry go round or not. As things stand I see Brexit as something which will damage the country and massively disproportionately impact those who have the least in society. It will not solve the issues that a lot of people were promised it would. We were sold a pack of lies by people who should put the country first, backed by a nasty bunch of people who saw a chance to profit and make life easier from themselves. There is no way we will get what was promised because it was never intended to be delivered and likely has been hijacked by someone who is incompetent or just hates foreigners.

You post unreferenced bits of texts copied off the Internet, often deliberately chosen to support your viewpoint by taking them out of context. Or you make assertions that aren't backed up by the links you post and then start suggesting I'm stupid or ill. No Buttercup it's not a wind up, I'm not ignorant, you need to actually stand up, stop being disingenuous and provide a reasoned argument backed up by actual facts not distortions, whataboutery and insults