Graham Butcher

Yes I do understand that there are times when they need to break the law but surely when they do so they must do it under some sort of conditions, like other emergency services, at least using some sort of built-in flashing blue strobe lights if not with 2 tones as well? I have seen police, fire and ambulances on training exercises for high speed responses but they have always been with "blues and 2s" and often with a sign attached saying "driver training"

@J.R. Legally as in if you don't want to be in a position should you have any reason to claim or any other person to claim against you and your insurance company in the event that you have an accident and the other party and their insurers deem that it was your fault. We all know how they will avoid paying if they can and if you have not informed them of changes as per my original comment that you kindly highlighted. You may like to take a risk of discovering that your insurance has been nullified, thus leaving you exposed, I personally don't want to take that risk.

Surely you're not suggesting that the SBS broke the law by speeding, are you?

No I don't think there is any law as such, its just the insurance industry flexing its muscles and doing their very best to exclude as many ways that the would liable to pay out anything as they can. Here is a video that you might like as a petrol head.

But they don't have to die if sensible steps are taken, it always the innocent people who suffer and all in the name of greed or power or money, corners get cut, and other people are at severe risk, seldom the perpetrators.

And even more devastation at a battery storage facility for the grid. Incident was Jan 16th 2025 in California, over 2,000 residents had to be evacuated and roads shut down.

Perhaps you need to get out more 😉try driving around my city or London, and you'll see plenty of them being driven badly.

John, I whole heartily agree with you about his videos, he is a person with which I can align myself, new spectacular clickbait titles and in the main well-thought-out and researched content and plian and simple honest opinions and I subscribe to his channel. I have already watched this video before having twice had no fault incidents, the first was in an American type car wash where the machine damaged my car and although the owner admitted liability, and I was paid out by them and the insurance company were informed as per their T&Cs in the same fashion as you are legally obliged to do if you do any modifications to the car if it took the car away from the manufacturers standard for your model, such as changed the wheel size, remap the engine, lower the suspension etc, regardless if it makes any difference to the performance or handling. Otherwise, you run the risk of have zero cover if you are subsequently involved in a major accident, and they inspect your car to assess if your car played any part in the accident as it would then give them room to wriggle their way out of paying out, leaving you with a large bill for your car and any others involved and or persons and or other property, and all because some people think its smart to spend loads of money modding the hell out of their cars and not declaring it. Many do that and get away with, as the only time it would be discovered is in the event of something happening, and the driver/owner has just handed them a "get out of jail card" Then 2 years later someone did a turn-out in front of me, all caught on my dashcam and the other driver and his insurance company admitted full responsibility and paid in full in the end but my premiums shot up. A few years ago, in a company car, in the same road just a 100 ft or so further on I had another driver do the same thing and wrote the company car but that time I had 2 expert witnesses, 2 policemen entering the police station a couple of hundred feet behind me saw the whole thing and came running over and promptly arrested the that driver for dangerous driving and driving without due care, and told me that there was absolutely nothing I could have done to prevent it, and they provided me with their full statements. The ironic thing there is that I was leaving that company that week and was due to hand over the car. I also know exactly what you mean about the "expert" and his ability to put a shelf support in the right place. That I find is typical of many so-called experts, They may have loads of expertise in their particular chosen subject but lack basic common sense and are useless with their hands. I have a brother-in-law like that, he is one of the top directors in an American bank but cannot even change a fuse in 13A plug top.

I thought that major port for the UK was Dover hence the operation known as "stack" in Kent?

Oh OK, except of course, there is no actual physical land connection between them. With a river, there is, it is perfectly possible to travel along on bank to the origin of the river and then travel back to a point opposite where you started from. Strewth, who would have thought it was so difficult to make a point 😉

Sorry everyone, it does indeed seem that I had got my wires slightly crossed, and it all started when @Ootohere happened to mention that nowhere in the UK was more than 75 miles from the sea. As I happen to live in the south-east, which at first glance seems to be the widest part of the UK, and while my sleep-deprived brain (family member had a massive stroke is now on palliative care in hospital and naturally next kin families want to be there in support of their passing), I thought that was distance was incorrect and then when I saw the BBC map (below), my brain kicked into overdrive. I guess it was a sub conscious attempt to distract my mind from the anguish that was happening in front of me. Anyway I saw that map in thought the Coton in the Elms appeared equidistant between Boston and the border between England and Wales. I thought that wales needed to be added on in order to go from coast to coast. To me and it still is, a coast mines that standing at waters edge looking straight ahead you should not be able to see directly in front of you land that is part of the land you are standing on, hence why I said ports that are in a river are not coast, because that fails the acid test as the visible land across the river is still the UK. Ok I'll get my coat.........

I don't understand why so many people are struggling with the concept of sea. I'm well aware of the fact that there are indeed ports far inland such as Thames Gateway, Liverpool, Tilbury, Port of London, Kings Lynn, Hull, Dundee, Sharpness, Milford Haven, even Manchester and some more, but it really is a stretch of the imagination to call them the sea. Perhaps you also call the Panama Canal and the Suez Canal the sea just because a ship can use it, why not say that every river is the sea, after all most are connected to the sea at some point ??

The point about the East Coast is from the same Asda, those distances would longer, so had I been more precise in selecting the central point, my example might have been a better example, as it it was done with zero sleep to fill a unpleasant wait.

Oh, so going down to Tilbury sitting on the dockside looking at Kent across a narrow river counts as a coast? Continue with magic mushrooms then eh🙄🙄🙄🙄. I can just about accept New Brighton as you can actually look out across the sea, but ports in an a river don't really count.

Yes, I'm just doing a tonque in cheek bit of what @wyx087 loves to do, correct an inaccuracy and makes absolutely zero difference what type of power is being used. It helps to take my mind of the not very pleasant family drama that is going on here. 😏😏

And where are the corresponding locations on the East coast then? It is interesting however when we really start to look into the nitty gritty of the UK, how small it really is and yet it takes so flipping long to get anywhere within it.🤬

I know, but beaches? Would any children get really excited if you said to we are going to the seaside and all they got was mud. Maldon in Essex, where my sons work is tidal, but its local name is Maldon on Mud. Maldon, Essex, Walking Tour, Historic Town, High Street, Promenade Park, Walk, Countryside Town, 4K

I really have no idea, but seeing as the original statement was 75 miles from the sea, then sea to me means salt water and beaches and I certainly would not call the Port of London the sea, nor Liverpool Docks, Manchester, Ipswich, Glasgow etc as where are the sandy beaches?

Well, that article is completely wrong, we are not talking about what is the most central point of the UK (which looking at the map the BBC is using, totally ignores the fact Wales is stuck on the side of England. In order to reach tidal water that is navigable with a floating tanker, you need to reach the coast, not the English border with Wales. The statement was made by @Ootoherethat no place in the UK was more than 75 miles away from the sea which it clearly is not correct, and you can do the experiment I did by downloading Google Earth Pro and use the ruler function built into it and check it out, fact check first hand. If it's possible to check something yourself, then that is what I normally do, using someone else's check such as the BBC article is wrong You are free to try and prove me wrong.

No, I fully understand the reason for warming the battery up before putting that top up charge in it, BUT, could you imagine having to do the same with an ICE before topping the tank up for a long trip? Also the comment I made about increasing the chance of being in an RTA is actually not as daft or flippant as some people appear to think it is, ask any professional driver, like a truck or a bus driver and that will tell you an accident is an occupational hazard and every extra journey or extra mile increases that risk of being in an accident. Accident aren't planned and most of us experienced drivers will also say that when they are involved in an accident, it is usually the other driver's fault, not theirs. The same thing when my car got written off while I was making an extra trip to pick up my son from his work because he had items with him that would make getting a bus difficult to do. So I made the extra trip and crash, bye bye car. Had I not gone to pick him up, that car would very likely still be the one I have now. So the analogy is that taking that EV for a quick blast to warm the battery is like that extra trip I made when my car was written by some idiot, if you don't have to it, then it lowers the risk of having an accident.

That is a bit of faff, and for those on fixed annual mileage it a step too far maybe, and also increases the chance of being in RTA.

I personally don't call that a sale, it's a fudge to cook the books, full stop. A bit like putting things in your wife's name to avoid tax.

You're a teaser 😊

Hardley guff I used as the anchor point Asda in central Walsall to the pier head (most logical for a tanker to dock) on Google Earth Pro and as you will see on the attached, it is 87.67 miles in dead straight line so that is greater than 75, yes? The nearest sea on the East Coast is Holbeach (RAF bombing range) to the same Asda is 92.11 miles, again greater than the 75 miles (just saying that it does not matter even if a pipeline was laid it would not be dead straight) I expect that there are many places in England that are even further away from the coast, so as a matter of fact it was guff after all 😉Highly likely to be 100% true up in Scotland, but certainly not so down South. Google Earth for proving? 😉 The underground pipelines to airfields and especially WW2 airfields, yes, I'm well aware of those as I'm also involved with military aviation both current and historic along with their airfields, and regularly help out with a couple of WW2 Spitfires and also a Mustang P51 flying warbirds. But I do get your general drift as the UK is really quite small when compared to other countries.

Now that is just a load guff, I doubt that is even as the crow flies, it certainly is not if driving, from the centre of Walsall it is well over 115 miles to either coast. That 75 miles is just like the supposed EV range, fanciful.😄