I'm pretty certain to get my RS rechipped/remapped. Still haven't really decided which one although I'm leaning to Jabba at the moment after having deciding upon APR and then REVO......doh!

Did want the change-ability but then Jabba's almost half the price and gives upto 230bhp.

Anyway, does anyone know whether any of the forementioned companies would do a discount for a group remap/rechip?

I'm pretty sure that APR/REVO can do a few cars in one day; I think REVO only take abuot 10 mins to download their code. Remaps take a lot longer; I think Jabba can do 2 in a day (e.g. Ian and RSPikaLou).

Any one interested?

Cheers.

Adrian.

I dont think Revo will, over on ukmkiv's they were discussing it.

I might be interested in Jabba myself, even more so if a group discount can be arranged.

I'll let this run until after the Easter break and see if there's anymore takers. I'll then have chat with Jabba.

I know Duncan expressed an interest but Jabba may be a little too far for him.

Lloyd said he may have to go to Jabba after his latest round of mods but I assume he may want to have this done a lot sooner.

Cheers.

Adrian.

After Easter is fine with me if I have no luck with AmD, just keep me in the loop.

Lloyd

I wouldnt be that bothered about driving down to Jabba , its only the fact that it would have to be , A-Saturday or B-in my Holidays as I only get the weekends off (factory work). My insurance is due at the end of July so if its getting done this year I'd want it done be4 then to save hassle of phoning them more than 1 time a year!

Just thinking how long does it take to do a remap at Jabba? Normally all things being equal its around 4hrs? If a number of us turn up at Jabba at the same time and eveything runs smoothly it will take a while for us all to have our remaps done (no harm there loads of time for group photos etc).

Also does anyone know what boost levels the Jabbasport chip runs? What I don't want is a remap that gives me loads of boost but my turbo won't last the distance. I know most of you that have been to Jabba have been very happy with your remaps, but there is no harm in asking this type of question.

P.S Saturdays are better for me as I don't have much holiday left.

Later

LLB

Lloyd

If Mike is remapping normally 3 hours + per car. He did umpteen rolling road runs on my car and apparently that's normal - he's very very thorough. (see thread in 'General' for results on my 4x4 V V T)

Thanks Fabpreza I may not bother with AmD to do my remap I might just go to Jabba. However, I am annoyed that I may have to pay for a remap (at least Jabba are cheaper) because AmD didn't at least put my RS on the dyno after fitting the dual IC to make sure things were OK.

Later

LLB

Lloyd

You have a PM

I'm getting my RS remapped at Jabba (Sorry revo) this Wednesday, I'll let you all know if it is worth the money! I'ts a fair hike for me but I do like the idea of the re-map being for your own particular car as opposed to a generic on for all vehicles with that particular ECU and engine spec. When I spoke to the technical department at Superchips they said that they could only give another 10 bhp (But 50 odd lbs of torque). I spoke to quite a few tuning shops who were willing to upload the superchips program with varying amounts of bull**** coming from them. I was told that they could give me 60 odd extra bhp and that the reason it was so expensive was that the ECU had to come out and that "Another chip is fitted mate" which was from a Superchips dealer! I think the moral of the story is that anyone as helpfull as Jabba and who are happy for you to be there while they carry out the work has got to be the better choice. As a motor vehicle lecturer at a college I strongly object to shoddy workmanship in any form, let alone on my car!

Simon

Mailed Jabba on Thursday asking about potential group discount; awaiting a reply. If I don't hear anything within the next couple of days I'll give them a buzz.

Cheers.

Adrian.

Spoke to Jabba today about all my mods and the potential of increasing the bhp output above 230. They said it was possible but wouldn't recommend it with the K04 turbo. Which is in line with what AmD also recommend. They did however, tell me about a 280 bhp upgrade which sounds very interesting all I have to do is win the lottery or my company shares to raise like a rocket!!!!

Later

LLB

IHI roller bearing Turbo by any chance ?!

If you go on Jabba's website and then look at the reviews/press releases, there is a review of the Golf with the Turbo conversion. Looks...expensive !

Just thinking - If you've already had the intercooler work done, Mike should be able to design a pretty awesome remap for you I would have thought ? ie Max power and torque wherever you want it.

Fabpreza I forgot to ask Mike about the possibility of doing a remap of my RS. I'll give them a ring soon to discuss this....

Originally posted by llblake in this post

Spoke to Jabba today about all my mods and the potential of increasing the bhp output above 230. They said it was possible but wouldn't recommend it with the K04 turbo. Which is in line with what AmD also recommend. They did however, tell me about a 280 bhp upgrade which sounds very interesting all I have to do is win the lottery or my company shares to raise like a rocket!!!!

Later

LLB

Can't understand why you can only get 230 bhp from all those conversions. Am I correct in saying you have a remap/turbo back system, if so this alone should yield above 230. :confused:

Is your RS a VVT engine and did AMD do the original remap?

Des.

I am a bit confused about this one I am sure I should get more bhp?

The mods I have are follows:

1: K04 turbo and larger air intake pipe

2: Dual Audi TT intercoolers

3: Complete Miltek exshaust inc Cat back

4: Remap carried out my AmD

I also had my suspension and brakes uprated (helps me to stop quicker). Not sure if my engine is a VVT my RS is a 2001 did the VVT engine come in by then?

Lloyd

I would think that you will, ring mike and discuss, he'll bounce around ideas with you I'm sure.

Originally posted by llblake in this post

I am a bit confused about this one I am sure I should get more bhp?

The mods I have are follows:

1: K04 turbo and larger air intake pipe

2: Dual Audi TT intercoolers

3: Complete Miltek exshaust inc Cat back

4: Remap carried out my AmD

I also had my suspension and brakes uprated (helps me to stop quicker). Not sure if my engine is a VVT my RS is a 2001 did the VVT engine come in by then?

Lloyd

That lot should definitely give you over 230.:confused:

Did AMD R/R the car after the last mod?

Des

No AmD didn't R/R the car after fitting the dual ICs. I took my RS to Power Engineering and they put the car on their R/R the bhp figure came out the same on their R/R (230). However, they thought that the power delivery was a bit erractic. It is possible that I may not get more bhp out of the car with a remap from Jabba? But the power delivery maybe smoother?

Lloyd

Lloyd

Does the car suffer from surging or have flat spots at high RPM or both with on off power.

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get to the bottom of it all.

Des

Delcac you have a PM

Originally posted by llblake in this post

The mods I have are follows:

1: K04 turbo and larger air intake pipe

2: Dual Audi TT intercoolers

3: Complete Miltek exshaust inc Cat back

4: Remap carried out my AmD

I also had my suspension and brakes uprated (helps me to stop quicker). Not sure if my engine is a VVT my RS is a 2001 did the VVT engine come in by then?

Lloyd, what month of 2001? AFAIK, the VVT/DBW/hybrid K03-04 turbo engine came in mid-2001. With the 10% rule, this could be one of the obvious reasons.

Edit: Dutch4x4 blunder alert! The updated engine already came in 2000, so Lloyd's engine must have the bigger turbo too. So much for one obvious reason...

Edit: blunder alert on blunder alert! Right, Lloyd now has the K04, which renders the question meaningless, as VVT is not a performance-enhancing feature, so VVT or non-VVT won't affect Lloyd's eventual power output.

For comparison reasons: in Holland, a remap by JD Engineering on a 2002 RS with open airfilter, free-flow exhaust (but with the cat still in) and increased fuel pressure rendered 240hp. Front intercooler is yet to come, which will hike it up to close to 250hp. That's still with the original turbo...

Mind you, they did take it close to unacceptable levels!

Dutch

I think you'll find that Lloyd has a GENUINE KO4 (so called upgrade from AmD).

Mike of Jabba fame recons he can squeeze 250bhp out of a KO4, running on the edge though.

If he has a K04 and all that other stuff, I'd say a proper remap, instead of a chip, would obtain a figure well over 250. Other K04 cars, like the TT with the 225 hp BAM engine, hit 265 when remapped, and over 280 when receiving the full exhaust, airfilter, intercooler and FPR treatment as well.

However, I suspect that going over 250 will be pushing the envelope with the rest of the original made-for-180 hp hardware. I'm sure these will be more heavy-duty in the BAM engine. So Jabba's 250 is probably a safer bet - unless you're willing to change core engine parts too...

Visions of the Dahlb

i HAD MINE (vrs) RE MAPPED AT jABBA LAST WEEK (Don't you just hate it when you forget the caps lock is on?) and It's transformed my performance dramatically. I find that I rarely floor it anymore as it is now seriously pokey and can catch you out if you're not carefull. The power is noticeable from tickover all the way through, turning into a demon if you do floor it. The boost is now running at 1.0-1.1 bar against a standard of .6. This and the new fuel map has raised the bhp to 219 on their Dyno, it should run at about 226 on the road as it is significantly cooler for the intake sysytem than indoors. It does change its driving character, noticeably it now has quite a kick when acellerating at about half throttle and then backing off. It's when the turbo overboost drops off I think, which was at first a bit concerning but you just change your driving habits a bit to not encounter it. The great thing is that I genuinely am getting 3-4 mpg more and that's normal use (some runs and some around town). I have yet to take it on a steady (80-90) motorway run for any distance. Bear in mind that this inrease in mpg is with me playing with the new power as well! You tend to find that under normal driving circumstances you drive with less right foot as you don't need it! The whole thing took around three and a half hours for them to do, First the ECU is removed and a new (blank) chip is fitted. This is programmed via a laptop and then they must have done twenty or so Dyno runs to get it satisfactory to them. One word of caution, the place is a pain in the arse to find, though only 110 miles from me in the Midlands it took about two and a half hours each way to get there. Take something to read as well as there is nothing to see (You can't go in the workshops or Dyno bay) and nowhere to go whilst you are waiting. So would I recommend it to those of you who are unsure? Damn right I would!!

Simon