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Hello,

I am a bit confused, I have heard that the callipers on the vRS are the same as the L&K and others that use 288mm discs(jus not painted green)?? is that true?

if so then what makes them fit over the 312mm discs on the vRS is it the carriers?

again if so then can you buy the R32 callipers that are sposed to go over the 334mm discs and use the vRS carriers so they fit?

I say this as I have alos read that the pads for the 288mm discs are the same as the ones for the vRS,

Can anyone tell me also if the carriers and callipers from certain Porches fit on to the vRS? if so which ones?

If not is it a case of gettin the carriers made to order? ie GarryC?

I am just interested to know as hopefully in the near/med futuer I am hoping to get the breaks on mine uprated, Just trying to get a reasonable setup for a reasonable price without having to put spacers on like i think you need to do for the Brembo ones? again correct me if I am wrong;)

My ultimate is the CompBreak6 kit with the 335mm rotors in Green:thumbup: but at £1100ish its a lot.

cheers for readin

billy

Should i tell you?:rolleyes:

Copied from UKiv's,carriers can be purchased from DaveB1970 as he is the brake expert.There is a another choice but it depends on budget.

2.5 and 2.7 (986) Boxster calipers are dimensionally the same front and rear, they also share this caliper with the 996 Carrera rear. Boxster Calipers on 2.5's and 2.7's are a matt black anodised finish

The 986S (Boxster S) has the same setup as a 996 Carrera 2/4 Boxster S calipers are Red,..... 996 Calipers are Painted Gloss Black or Silver as an option.

Buyer beware boxster rears 986.352.421 & 422 are configured for a 20mm disc and you cannot physically get this caliper over the top of a 25mm wide VAG 312 Disc. The difference is on the pad pegs, they extend further out onthe rears to fit the thinner discs

In summary

Boxster (2.5 & 2.7) Fronts - All Good (Need reversing though) 986.351.421 & 422 goes on 312 or 325mm discs

Boxster (2.5 & 2.7) Rears - No Good for VAG 996.352.421 & 422 *************BEWARE THIS IS THE SAME PART NUMBER AS 996 REARS THAT DO FIT **********************************

Boxster S & Carrera 2/4 Fronts (and also 996 Twin Turbo rears) - Good for VAG on custom 330mm discs - search Rays (aRd)'s posts 996.351.425 & 426, loverly compact setup goes under 17's

Boxster S rears - Good for VAG dont need reversing and come red as standard 996.352.421 & 422 goes on 312 or 325mm discs goes under 17's

996 Carrera 2/4 Rears - Good for VAG dont need reversing 996.352.421 & 422 goes on 312 or 325mm discs goes under 17's

Cayenne 6 pots - goes onto a R32 disc there are multiple versions of this caliper, ideally unless you want to willy wave there is NO POINT in getting cayenne turbo caliepers the pistons are huge and you will have pedal travel equal only to your clutch!!! best bet is get the silver ones from the "normal" cayenne and refurb them red. Also VW touareg calipers and Q7 Calipers are the same but with smaller more suitable pistons. goes under 18's

996 Twin Turbo AKA "The Big Red" 996.351.429 & 430 fit beautifully onto a Mk4 R32 disc with a 10mm spacer, need reversing though no big problem use bigger 142mm mounting centres as they're HUGE - well suited to a mk4 maybe a FI R32 so thats its just caliper and carriers and lines. Really nice calipers these one of my favourites goes under 18's

996 GT3 RS 6 Pots sometimes in Red when used on a GT3 but also used in Yellow in the PCCB arrangement, PCCB calipers can be mounted straight onto steel rotors with a pad change, beware if the ceramic piston caps are missing they are not available individually even though most ssellers on ebay will swear they are - its a new caliper and they are £4K. Very capable caliper with very small pistons easily reversed and very light dimensionally a 6 pot version of the "BIG RED" when found in red they are sometimes sold as "BIGGER REDS"

Aston, Ferrari & XK8 calipers can also be used.

All the above can go onto a Mk5 either the Mk5 GTi 312, Custom 330mm disc above or a custom 350mmx32mm disc for the 996TT Fronts, Cayennes, Aston Martin stuff. B7 RS4 calipers are bolt on Mk5 with spacers

The calipers that DO need reversing have larger pistons, some see these bigger pistons as a benefit for ultimate stopping power with racing pads on a track. For fast street the smaller pistoned calipers CAN all give forehead against windscreen performance with an absolute solid pedal because smaller pistons need less pedal travel which is Hydraulics 101!

Billy, my info is limited but I can tell you that the hubs, calipers and pads are the same. The 312 differs from the 288 setup as the cariers are different and hold the caliper further out to acomodate the larger disc. It's a really common conversion on Golfs etc to buy the 312 carriers and 312 discs to make a cheap big brake conversion.

I looked into the R32 conversion but it was more involved than just a carrier change :-( Hubs, calipers, carriers, discs (very pricy) and pads.

Hope that helps :-)

Garry

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cheers JAY:thumbup:

took a while to read thru lol, on that I think ill go for the simple option. ace info tho specially for ne one else lookin to do their breaks.

Cheers Garry, that is good to know too, was thinkin of R32 but like yo usay its not simple,

think ill save this page lol as it is gonna be usefull.

billy

Can I just point out that it's Brakes not Breaks. If your brakes break you've got trouble.

Lambo Diablo 4 pots and 330mm disks are going on mine soon. U can get this set up for about £500. Cannt go wrong.

Lambo Diablo 4 pots and 330mm disks are going on mine soon. U can get this set up for about £500. Cannt go wrong.

GB ones?

You will need spacers on standard wheels.

Have forge 10mm spacers sorted. I am buying the first set. All nice and tested and bedded in.

Have forge 10mm spacers sorted. I am buying the first set. All nice and tested and bedded in.

Is this the set that was on Phils car?

Loads of BMW callipers going cheap.;)

Yeah buying them from Phil

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Can I just point out that it's Brakes not Breaks. If your brakes break you've got trouble.

lol

your like my girlfriend! always correcting me, sorry but my spelling is not good and she was sleepin lol.

I have 18x8" et35 TD pro race 1.2, will the Lambo brakes fit under them without spacers?

£500 is that for a full kit all new when they know it works?

I want them in green tho. and the Lambo writing has to go too.

cheers guys

billy

It does look like a good kit. Its the one im looking at also :)

Technically its BMW calipers, but they are made by Brembo and also used on the Diablo. Still very cool.

As you need to source and re con the calipers yourself, you can paint, powder coat them any colour you want, and put what ever stickers you want on them. I will be painting mine green to keep that OE look. Think i may stick the Lambo sticker on tho ;)

Garry

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lol oh

I thought someone had sorted a kit out lol, so what is the £500 for? is that just what he payed for them?

Also when you say reversed, do you mean they go on the oposit side? or the pipes go on a diff way?

billy

The guy on the MKIV forum is looking to supply the discs, custom carriers and custom lines for around £300-£350 i think, and then by the time you source the calipers and recon them (approx £150) the total will be around the £500.00 mark :)

Link to Lambo Brake kit.

Im not fully up to speed on whats involved in reversing calipers tho.

Kind Regards

Garry

For the octy the 288mm to 312mm brakes, then yes the callipers are exactly the same as are the pads.

To change to 312mm from 288mm (ATE) you just need to get new carriers and 312mm discs. The new carriers will move the callipers further out from the hub centre and enable it to fit over the larger disc.

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Billy, my info is limited but I can tell you that the hubs, calipers and pads are the same. The 312 differs from the 288 setup as the cariers are different and hold the caliper further out to acomodate the larger disc. It's a really common conversion on Golfs etc to buy the 312 carriers and 312 discs to make a cheap big brake conversion.

I looked into the R32 conversion but it was more involved than just a carrier change :-( Hubs, calipers, carriers, discs (very pricy) and pads.

Hope that helps :-)

Garry

;);)

cheers for that mate.

I have found some BIG REDs on ebay lol but I have a feelin they gonna get too exp lol.

I have a set of the 996 4-pot Porsche callipers (not the Boxster versions) which are currently at the bodyshop being powder coated.

Hopefully they'll be on the car in the next few weeks along with 325mm discs.

Will post up some pictures when their done.

Think I'm going to have to run a 5mm spacer with the standard 17's, but time will tell!

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ace if you could mate.

I am after more 330-350mm . I just dont want to use spacers thats the thing.

all best with it mate.

Oh were did you get the brackets from?

Oh were did you get the brackets from?

I bought a kit off a guy on the mkiv's forum that had originally come from DaveB (as Jay mentioned further up this post). He's a wealth of information so well worth sending a pm to if you want to know anything about brakes!!

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Hi I wantad to know if the BRACKETS for the front calipers of the Porsche Boxster are the same as for the rear of the Porsche Boxster S calipers. I bought the 034 Motosport brackets and have 312mm rotors. I would be buying one or another mostly because of the brackets but also because the Boxster S calipers are red and the Boxster are dull black. I also think that the rear calipers would have a better use for the street because of its smaller pistons.

Will be waiting for some guru answer.

Thanks a million!

Chris.

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