Piece of advice you can take or ignore as you please.

Since you've now scrubbed the coating off the front tyres, when you get them for the rear, it's probably worth putting your front wheels on the back and putting the new ones on the front. That way you should be able to scrub the coating off again quickly and won't end up with the back end of the car being slippery as hell in the wet for a while.

Piece of advice you can take or ignore as you please.

Since you've now scrubbed the coating off the front tyres, when you get them for the rear, it's probably worth putting your front wheels on the back and putting the new ones on the front. That way you should be able to scrub the coating off again quickly and won't end up with the back end of the car being slippery as hell in the wet for a while.

Advice taken matey, id actually thought about that. But i think the Vredsteins would offer more grip brand new, than the Kuhmo's that are already scrubbed up.

Im looking at replacing some suspension bushes and having it properly 4 wheel aligned by a reputable company (Awesome GTI).

I may not need Eibach front and rear ARB's on after all

I think id rather pay the extra £30 and travel to Machester to have it done, as the local monkeys have left me with the rear track on the nearside wheel stuck out further than the offside on the rear axle. Roundabouts can be rather noisey, but recently they've not been too bad?

It took 3 attempts to get it to drive straight whilst having a 4 wheel geo even with the sports springs settings they used for my Eibach springs.

I just find myself flabbergasted about the tyres, i've never owned a tyre so good!

I hope they keep on manufacturing them for years to come, like Avon has done the ZZ3!

Piece of advice you can take or ignore as you please.

Since you've now scrubbed the coating off the front tyres, when you get them for the rear, it's probably worth putting your front wheels on the back and putting the new ones on the front. That way you should be able to scrub the coating off again quickly and won't end up with the back end of the car being slippery as hell in the wet for a while.

Good advice in the circumstances.

Oops; sorry. Thought the link was to the Tyre Test of a couple of weeks ago.

I've got a copy of the mag (9-15 Sept 2009) in front of me;

1st - Continental Premium Contact 2 - 100%

2nd - Goodyear OptiGrip - 99.7%

3rd - Vredestein Sportrac 3 - 99.2%

PM me for further details.

Yes , I read the report , being about to change my wheels , having had Dunlop 01s for 25,000 miles . Mine did not break up , but were very noisy and often made me think that I wished that I had never sold my beloved Mk 1 4*4 , which just seemed to be a far less ponderous car . I decided that Michelin , which I have always bought previously , were just at the moment even with a discount just too expensive , with tread patterns that have not really moved on in design for years now .

So living in N Wales , I opted for the Goodyear Optigrips and their reputation for working well in the wet and retaining there effectiveness over the whole life of the tyre using new technology . Its early days , but thus far they are so much quieter and can best be described as like putting on a pair of light weight trainers after wearing a pair of wellingtons .

They have returned that sense of agility to my car .

The great unknown is how long will they last .

The difficult tyre size for the Scout ruled out the Vreds and the price seems to be going up by the month .

Piece of advice you can take or ignore as you please.

Since you've now scrubbed the coating off the front tyres, when you get them for the rear, it's probably worth putting your front wheels on the back and putting the new ones on the front. That way you should be able to scrub the coating off again quickly and won't end up with the back end of the car being slippery as hell in the wet for a while.

Sorry Cheesy but its generally accepted that new tyres should go on the back of the car to increase grip. To be honest it takes a very smal amount of time to wear off the release coat. Just take it a little easy for 50 miles or so........

Michelin - Fitting tyres - Why fit new or less worn tyres to the rear?

Motorists get their tyres “back to front”! - News & Events - TyreSafe

Celtic Tyres::Tyre Tips - New tyres to the rear.

I thought this advice was nonsense until I actually did it...........:eek:

If someone wants to even buy brand new Kuhmo 712's then i would tell em to steer clear of them, there ok in the dry. But on a car of this size there no good in the wet (i was always weary of them breaking traction even from new).

Never mind sell them as part worns!

Maybe they would be better on a lighter car, i dont know.

The Kumho 712 is very much a budget tyre and not really right for your car. Their KU-31 is a far better tyre for not much more money.

Agree entirely. And the KU-31 is a very good tyre for the money.

Steve

Sorry Cheesy but its generally accepted that new tyres should go on the back of the car to increase grip. To be honest it takes a very smal amount of time to wear off the release coat. Just take it a little easy for 50 miles or so........

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I thought this advice was nonsense until I actually did it...........:eek:

I have to say I think it depends on a lot of factors.

My advice assumed that the poster had put new tyres on recently so they had just scrubbed in rather than worn.

At that point on a FWD vehicle the new fronts would be quickly scrubbed and worn down to the same level as the rears.

I wouldn't advise putting very worn tyres on the rear and new ones on the front, but then I wouldn't advise doing the other way around.

One school of thought says worn tyres on the front = understeer and that is safer than oversteer.

The other says good tyres on the front will give you grip to steer and pull the car out of a situation where the rear starts to drift.