So the plot thickens... Doing my Inspector Clouseau bit then, if the Yeti follows the same badge system as the Superb then the one masquerading at Chester as a CR170 is actually a CR140 - that would explain why it performs similar to a 140

It would also account for why there is already a 1300 mile UK CR170 despite them supposedly starting build last week.

Curiouser and curiouser!

As for the performance differences with approximately 10% more torque and 20% more power and the same gear box I would expect some difference in acceleration and top end but how noticeable it is in the real world is open for debate.

Hi aerofurb,

the badging system of colouring different letters red to denote power has been used by VW and Skoda for some time. The old VW 1.9 TDI 150 had all red lettering as at the time there was at least three other power options.

My Dad test drove both Superb 140PD DSG and 170 CR DSG, no contest obviously 170 much more refined and noticeably more performance.

The red 'I' normal indicates a 140 with a red 'DI' for a 170 all silver for the 110. My Dad's Superb 170 has the red 'DI'

With regard to the X being red in the 4x4, think that's always been the case. Certainly that way for my Octy I 4X4 Turbo.

Thanks for the info Plumber. Yes thats what tie in with what I'd seen on earlier models (such as my Octy wich has a red i). So that would suggets the demo car was a 140, but it did feel MUCH faster than the 140 Octy at higher revs. Considering the extra weight of the Yeti and the losses for the 4 wheel drive it certainly felt like an extra 30 bhp. Id be impresed if the CR 140 can feel so fast:eek:

Originally Posted by aerofurb

So the plot thickens... Doing my Inspector Clouseau bit then, if the Yeti follows the same badge system as the Superb then the one masquerading at Chester as a CR170 is actually a CR140 - that would explain why it performs similar to a 140

It would also account for why there is already a 1300 mile UK CR170 despite them supposedly starting build last week.

Curiouser and curiouser!

As for the performance differences with approximately 10% more torque and 20% more power and the same gear box I would expect some difference in acceleration and top end but how noticeable it is in the real world is open for debate.

Hi aerofurb, Agreed certainly is very curious but I really cant see why Mitchels would claim the demo to be a 170 if it isn't. Wouldn't benfit them in any way. Of cause they may have made an honest mistake, but 2 different sales person I've spoken to have been absolutely positive its a 170, and one of those was able to compare it to a 140 which he had also driven. Given the VERY obvious extra top end performance compared to my Octy, I'm inclined to beleive that it was a 170. That of course leaves the question of how they got one:confused: Could do with test driving a 140 as well and see if it feels any different.

Word on the street is that it isn't a CR170, it's a CR140. Was it Aqua Blue?

Apparently there are no CR170s in the UK yet - demos or otherwise.

Word on the street is that it isn't a CR170, it's a CR140. Was it Aqua Blue?

Apparently there are no CR170s in the UK yet - demos or otherwise.

Yes it was indeed Aqua Blue;). Might I ask the source of your info? PM me if you prefer.

If the car was a140CR I have to say I'm impresed with overall performance of the new engine. It may have felt weak at the bottom end but the improvment in top was dramatic. And all this in a heavier car with the aerodynamics of a garden shed. All very interesting. Wonder if I can get another test drive and then check out the info plate? dont suppose theres any difference in the apperance of the two engines is there?

Yes it was indeed Aqua Blue;). Might I ask the source of your info? PM me if you prefer.

If the car was a140CR I have to say I'm impresed with overall performance of the new engine. It may have felt weak at the bottom end but the improvment in top was dramatic. And all this in a heavier car with the aerodynamics of a garden shed. All very interesting. Wonder if I can get another test drive and then check out the info plate? dont suppose theres any difference in the apperance of the two engines is there?

Besides the badging as previously discussed you should be able to identify the engine by the build sticker; usually on the boot floor and the front of the service book and will give the power in kilowatts.

140 = 103kw 170 = 125kw

From my 5 days so far with the 140 CR Snow-monster I would say that in terms of acceleration, it already feels better than the 140 PD I had in the previous Golf V 4motion. I have put this down to it's much more linear power delivery, which appears to make things like overtaking much easer and quicker.

As I am still running it in I have been keeping it to no more than 3000rpm and so far I have not found that I really need anymore and that includes higher speed overtaking.

The fonts of all knowledge, Allams at Epsom, contacted SUK and they said if it was an Aqua Blue one it's a CR140 - no CR170s built pre-Wk45 (ie last week) and none in the UK used, demos or unsold new in stock.

They said go to them if you need correct spec information or even to buy one

It would be interesting to hear what your dealer has to say...!

My only interest is that having originally ordered as soon as it was possible to order a CR170 and then had a Wk45 build forecast, then Wk43 and now Wk48, I was surprised any had wandered this far North!

The fonts of all knowledge, Allams at Epsom, contacted SUK and they said if it was an Aqua Blue one it's a CR140 - no CR170s built pre-Wk45 (ie last week) and none in the UK used, demos or unsold new in stock.

They said go to them if you need correct spec information or even to buy one

It would be interesting to hear what your dealer has to say...!

My only interest is that having originally ordered as soon as it was possible to order a CR170 and then had a Wk45 build forecast, then Wk43 and now Wk48, I was surprised any had wandered this far North!

Fair enougth, the bulk of evidence suggests a CR140 then. In that case definetly feels quicker than the PD even if not quite as flexible at low revs. I was just worried that if it was a CR170 then the 140 might be even less flexible AND without the top end as well. If thats the CR140 I would be happy wit it, Thanks for sorting the mystery out:), Wonder what Mitchels are playing at.

Originally Posted by The Plumber

Besides the badging as previously discussed you should be able to identify the engine by the build sticker; usually on the boot floor and the front of the service book and will give the power in kilowatts.

140 = 103kw 170 = 125kw

From my 5 days so far with the 140 CR Snow-monster I would say that in terms of acceleration, it already feels better than the 140 PD I had in the previous Golf V 4motion. I have put this down to it's much more linear power delivery, which appears to make things like overtaking much easer and quicker.

As I am still running it in I have been keeping it to no more than 3000rpm and so far I have not found that I really need anymore and that includes higher speed overtaking.

Glad to hear your happy with yours. Sounds like I'll be happy with one. If I get a chance I'll go back and check build sticker, then I can ask them whats going on;)

Fair enougth, the bulk of evidence suggests a CR140 then. In that case definetly feels quicker than the PD even if not quite as flexible at low revs. I was just worried that if it was a CR170 then the 140 might be even less flexible AND without the top end as well. If thats the CR140 I would be happy wit it, Thanks for sorting the mystery out:), Wonder what Mitchels are playing at.

Glad to hear your happy with yours. Sounds like I'll be happy with one. If I get a chance I'll go back and check build sticker, then I can ask them whats going on;)

My company had a Yeti Elegance 2.0 CR 140 on loan from SKoda UK for a fortnight. I can confirm that this model had the single red i in the badge, thus supporting previous suspicions that it was DEFINITELY a 140 and not a 170.

I had this car for a long weekend and thought it was great and a hoot to hammer around the nearby country back roads.

I am not sure how much faith I have in the information, but the dealer salesman claimed that the three versions of the 2.0 CR have different pistons and different turbo's and injectors. he last two make saense, but as the engines all have the same displacement and bore/stroke as wel as the same compression ratio, I do not see the logic behind the pistons bein differnt. Ha also talked about the inlet valves being diffeent - that would make sense on a naturally aspirated petrol engone, but on a turbo diesel?

Quite easy to check.. Ask to have a look in the vehicle registration docs.

Agerbundsen

The same rules of physics apply to diesels as they do to petrol except that diesels use much higher compression ratios and use compression ignition and not spark. They also develop power and maximum efficiency at lower revolutions but still need to draw in air/fuel mix and expel the burnt products as cleanly and efficiently as is practical and legal. Of course diesel produces greater efficiency than petrol in the firsts place having a higher calorific value. Technical applications and solutions have been part of the compression ignition engine far longer in the commercial trucking industry than for cars.