The thing that might surprise some though is that a 4x4 will slide off the road at least as easily as a 2x4. they are still subject to the Laws of Physics.

I like that 0x4 = 0x2 = 0

It does make me laugh this weather as many 4x4 drivers - usually X5's or RRS's or the like on huge low profile tyres......they go bungling along at too high a speed for the conditions thinking I've got an 'indestructible go anywhere 4x4 all action vehicle' not realizing they don't stop any better than a 2wd car - if anything worst because of the weight. All cars have 4 wheel braking ofcourse!

Seems to me that MINIs are quickest in the snow - must be down to pure driver skill.... :S

Seems to me that MINIs are quickest in the snow - must be down to pure driver skill....

My neighbour's Mini Cooper couldn't get up our road this morning. Its fat low profile tyres spinning merrily away whilst my wife's Citroen C1 on it's skinny little high profile tyres went straight up without complaint. The scariest car I have ever driven in the snow was a 4x4 VW Touareg. Two and a half tonnes of off roader on ridiculously wide low profile tyres that almost needed an anchor throwing from the back to make it stop

Ok.....we are about to order our Yeti (as discussed above). However we are thinking of the 1.8 petrol engine (160bhp) instead of the 140 bhp diesel...anyone have any experience of this engine or any opinion on this change?

Edited 12 January, 201016 yr by octy888

Ok.....we are about to order our Yeti (as discussed above). However we are thinking of the 1.8 petrol engine (160bhp) instead of the 140 bhp diesel...anyone have any experience of this engine or any opinion on this change?

Both good engines, not tried the 1.8 myself so cannot comment there but I am more than happy with the 140 TDI CR. Therefore would have no hesitation recommending it.

The usual cost difference with the Yeti is minimal at £500 so I would look at the following:

The engine you go for should match the type of driving you do and your annual mileage. Stuck in traffic a lot then maybe the petrol is best due to the diesel having a DPF which needs reasonably regular runs to carry out it's regeneration thing.

If you are on free flowing roads and doing the mileage then diesel as the MPG is much better.

Other factors you maybe need to think about are insurance and road tax where the 1.8 is more expensive. there's also depreciation; unknown factor as yet but all things being equal the diesel should do better and be easier to P/X in the future.

Regards,

TP

Heres the spec we are considering.....

Yeti 4x4 SE 140 bhp diesel + autodim rear mirror with rain sensor + hill hold + off-road button + park sensors front & rear + light assist (all reasonably priced)

Any other 'must have' options in peoples opinion?

Harry

I think ESP is a must, whichever version you go for at SE level. As I've said in other posts, don't forget:

Park Assist (which includes front and rear parking sensors and ESP) is cheaper than buying front and rear parking sensors plus ESP. And you can use Park Assist as a party trick.

Both good engines, not tried the 1.8 myself so cannot comment there but I am more than happy with the 140 TDI CR. Therefore would have no hesitation recommending it.

The usual cost difference with the Yeti is minimal at £500 so I would look at the following:

The engine you go for should match the type of driving you do and your annual mileage. Stuck in traffic a lot then maybe the petrol is best due to the diesel having a DPF which needs reasonably regular runs to carry out it's regeneration thing.

If you are on free flowing roads and doing the mileage then diesel as the MPG is much better.

Other factors you maybe need to think about are insurance and road tax where the 1.8 is more expensive. there's also depreciation; unknown factor as yet but all things being equal the diesel should do better and be easier to P/X in the future.

Regards,

TP

Yes, all good points.

We have the 140 diesel in our current Octy 4x4 - and an excellent engine it is too, very flexible if a little noisy at higher revs than some.

Thing is my better half would prefer a petrol, her driving style and types of journey better suit the petrol. Trouble is I know I'd miss the lump of torque....although being a turbo the 1.8 should be pretty torquey from low down. Have to try it I guess.

As for costs I'm still to be convinced (I've never done the maths) that diesel is SO much more economical given its higher price at the pump.

P/x is another good consideration ofcourse, the diesel being more attractive to a used buyer.....

Decisions, decisions! Overall I'm still swaying towards the petrol.

Charlie:

I'm fairly sure the ESP is standard on all 4x4 variants of the Yeti

Edited 13 January, 201016 yr by octy888

Yes, all good points.

We have the 140 diesel in our current Octy 4x4 - and an excellent engine it is too, very flexible if a little noisy at higher revs than some.

Thing is my better half would prefer a petrol, her driving style and types of journey better suit the petrol. Trouble is I know I'd miss the lump of torque....although being a turbo the 1.8 should be pretty torquey from low down. Have to try it I guess.

As for costs I'm still to be convinced (I've never done the maths) that diesel is SO much more economical given its higher price at the pump.

P/x is another good consideration ofcourse, the diesel being more attractive to a used buyer.....

Decisions, decisions! Overall I'm still swaying towards the petrol.

Charlie:

I'm fairly sure the ESP is standard on all 4x4 variants of the Yeti

Yes all 4x4 have the ESP system as standard. Unless you have an Elegance though you will be looking at the options list for the complementary add-ons of hill hold and off-road.

from my experience with the older generation Octavia 1.8T 4x4 (Petrol), Golf 2.0TDI PD 4motion and the Yeti I reckon you are looking at an extra 10 + mpg from the diesel. So as long as we don't go back to those daft 20p a litre differences which I think had a lot to do with profiteering, then you will do better with the diesel.

The CR is a vast improvement over the PD, much more flexible with a linear power delivery rather than the all or nothing approach of the PD.

In defence of the petrol though the 1.8 T 20v was a fantastic motor very smooth compared with the diesel, particularly the PD but after three and a bit years the increasingly high running cost tempted me away to desel.

I may have gone for the 1.8 petrol again this time round but as there was not the £1800 difference as with the Octavia then financial for me anyway I stayed diesel.

Either way though the Monster is a fantastic motor so enjoy and best of luck with the decision process.

TP

I used to be indecisive but now I am not so sure!

Good luck with what ever you choose. Diesel

Ok we tried the diesel 140bhp CR yesterday. VERY impressed, linear power delivery, smooth with none of the harshness one sometimes gets with the PD diesel we have in the Octy. Theres not that surge of torque either but the smoothness makes up for that. They didn't have a 1.8 petrol for us to try but still think we will go for that........POWER....

The 1.8 petrol - what other current VAG vehicles is that fitted to - anyone know? Sure the dealer mentioned the Audi TT...is that correct?

Edited 17 January, 201016 yr by octy888

Ok we tried the diesel 140bhp CR yesterday. VERY impressed, linear power delivery, smooth with none of the harshness one sometimes gets with the PD diesel we have in the Octy. Theres not that surge of torque either but the smoothness makes up for that. They didn't have a 1.8 petrol for us to try but still think we will go for that........POWER....

The 1.8 petrol - what other current VAG vehicles is that fitted to - anyone know? Sure the dealer mentioned the Audi TT...is that correct?

TT, Octy... loads of VAG cars to be honest. I drove the diesels and thought the 1.8TSI just suited me more. Diesel like torque low down but quicker throughout the (bigger) rev range. Also thought that the 1.8TSI pulled smoother from lower down the rev range. To me the 140 seems to need less spooling time for the turbo than the 170 but I guess that should be expected due to the bigger turbo on the 170.

Lee

Ok we tried the diesel 140bhp CR yesterday. VERY impressed, linear power delivery, smooth with none of the harshness one sometimes gets with the PD diesel we have in the Octy. Theres not that surge of torque either but the smoothness makes up for that. They didn't have a 1.8 petrol for us to try but still think we will go for that........POWER....

The 1.8 petrol - what other current VAG vehicles is that fitted to - anyone know? Sure the dealer mentioned the Audi TT...is that correct?

The 2.0 CR 170 has MORE of everything all across the rpm range than any of the others - including the 1.8TFI - except fuel consumption.

The Power surge IS there, just 1000 rpm higher than in the PD - and oh so polite, not quite like the mulekick from the PD, more trebuchet-like

The 2.0 CR 170 has MORE of everything all across the rpm range than any of the others - including the 1.8TFI

What sort of power and torque is the 170 giving at 5,500 rpm? 6,000rpm?? 6,500rpm? :p

The CR170 is a great engine and as Ive stated on previous threads; if it wasnt down to my own worries re the DPF and the 10 mile, traffic grand prix commute I do daily - I'd buy one.

What sort of power and torque is the 170 giving at 5,500 rpm? 6,000rpm?? 6,500rpm? :p

The CR170 is a great engine and as Ive stated on previous threads; if it wasnt down to my own worries re the DPF and the 10 mile, traffic grand prix commute I do daily - I'd buy one.

Answer: it doesn't need to get that hysterical

RPM in gears at 100 km /hr ( 62,5 mph to you):

4th: 2700

5th: 2400

6th: 1850

Conclude: 6th is a dynamic over drive. Maximum speed in 5th, which works well from 1500 rpm up to 5000. What more do you want?

I cannot really address your fear of the DPF

What sort of power and torque is the 170 giving at 5,500 rpm? 6,000rpm?? 6,500rpm? :p

The CR170 is a great engine and as Ive stated on previous threads; if it wasnt down to my own worries re the DPF and the 10 mile, traffic grand prix commute I do daily - I'd buy one.

Hi FocuZtec,

I did not want to blow you off with the last post, but you shuld really see if you can find someone that will give you a drive in the 2.0 170 CR. I am just getting past 3300 km, so not so pussyfooted as in the early break-in period. It gets very convincing from 3000 and up. You can figure the velocity from the numbers above.