Last week when driving down the motorway the oil warning light (yellow) came up on the computer dislpay. When I did stop and checked the oil level, it was fine, in fact it was nearly filled to the max and now every time the car is started the warning light continues to appear until I cancel it. Any ideas on the problem and there is still plenty of oil in the engine.

Thanks

That's a low oil pressure warning when the engine's running. It may be the pressure sensor (highly likely) or the pump (rare to very rare).

or the pump (rare to very rare).

This would be my first thing to check - especially as it looks like you have the 2.0TDi 140PD, which has a known oil pump problem, how many miles has the car done?

This would be my first thing to check - especially as it looks like you have the 2.0TDi 140PD, which has a known oil pump problem, how many miles has the car done?

46K

Oil pump drive wear is common if it is a 2.0 diesel. It needs checking before you drive it again.

Yellow should be level and red pressure.

I'd have the sensor changed but while the car is in get them to take the sump off, check the condition of the pump and change the pump drive. The part costs a pittance, but the cost of failure is a new engine.

Can anyone tell me how much of a job it is to replace the oil pump drive? ive been reading threads about the known oil pump failure on the 2.0 tdi engines. Any ideas? cheers

Last week when driving down the motorway the oil warning light (yellow) came up on the computer dislpay. When I did stop and checked the oil level, it was fine, in fact it was nearly filled to the max and now every time the car is started the warning light continues to appear until I cancel it. Any ideas on the problem and there is still plenty of oil in the engine.

Thanks

You need to check the engine number, 2007 should have the later oil pump system, although it's possible if the car was built in 2006 it will have the dodgy pump drive

VW Passat 2.0 TDi 140bhp engines have chain driven pumps till the Chassis change point ... 6E 082000

This might not help though, numbers might be different on s Skoda.

This may help better

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=71509&highlight=oil+pump&page=7

If you can't access it, this is the crucial info post.

It is pre change point which was at chassis WVWZZZ3CZ6P070000 (approximately) so yes it is at risk.

Call me thick.....but the numbers you quoted superbia was indeed vw numbers and didnt bear any resemblence to the numbers i have on my registration document.....so i'm assuming vw and skoda have different chasis numbers.......even though we bought the car back in jan 2007....we wanted the facelift version....and we was told there were some of the older models still around parked up gods knows where....so we decided to go for the facelift version with indicators on wing mirrors/ redesigned front grill /redesigned rear lamps and a few other things.......but i dont know about the engine. All i know it is a 103 kw 140 bhp diesel...ENGINE CODE BSS....And i dont think the passats had this engine...but to be honest the information on this engine is so sketchy, its like doing the lottery.

So going to give it another oil change soon as the service light is now counting down for its next service......i'll ask the mechanic what he'll charge for removing the sump and the oil pump drive and renew that part.....assuming the oil pump is in good condition. Its just got me checking the oil is reaching the head on a daily basis now...as if i find the oil filler cap is looking decidedly dry underneath, then i will know the head is being starved of oil. as if the offending oil pump drive is beginning to fail, then less oil will be present in the cylinder head, which in turn feeds the turbo.....but for the moment, i know the cylinder head is well fed with oil.

Call me thick.....but the numbers you quoted superbia was indeed vw numbers and didnt bear any resemblence to the numbers i have on my registration document.....so i'm assuming vw and skoda have different chasis numbers.......even though we bought the car back in jan 2007....we wanted the facelift version....and we was told there were some of the older models still around parked up gods knows where....so we decided to go for the facelift version with indicators on wing mirrors/ redesigned front grill /redesigned rear lamps and a few other things.......but i dont know about the engine. All i know it is a 103 kw 140 bhp diesel...ENGINE CODE BSS....And i dont think the passats had this engine...but to be honest the information on this engine is so sketchy, its like doing the lottery.

So going to give it another oil change soon as the service light is now counting down for its next service......i'll ask the mechanic what he'll charge for removing the sump and the oil pump drive and renew that part.....assuming the oil pump is in good condition. Its just got me checking the oil is reaching the head on a daily basis now...as if i find the oil filler cap is looking decidedly dry underneath, then i will know the head is being starved of oil. as if the offending oil pump drive is beginning to fail, then less oil will be present in the cylinder head, which in turn feeds the turbo.....but for the moment, i know the cylinder head is well fed with oil.

Correct me old luv, I was just trying to point ppl in the right direction, 2007 on with a certain chassis number is the cut point for VW, the 2.0 PDi is the same engine given a different name, even my mates Touran has a different engine code even though it's identical to mine, any of you with a 2006 2.0 PDi should worry, and if it's a 56 I know for a full fact these have the crap pump in them.

Well my registration begins with the number 56....so its fairly possible that the pump is one of the suspect ones being mentioned on here. But having said that, anything that uses oil for lubrication and as time goes by starts to wear....like the pump drive for example, one has to start from the very bottom of the engine....being the sump, and as someone mentioned dealers sucking out oil via the dipstick for oil changes, i think is asking for potential problems.

I consider myself to be reasonably knowledgeable where engines are concerned.....ive stripped loads down in my younger days, and on 4 occasions i have seen the oil pick up pipe sometimes partially blocked and some fully covered with baked on film of old oil, and its a no brainer to realize that if oil cant pass through the strainer on the oil pick up pipe then yes serious problems are going to occur. And what with these 2.0ltr engines like mine and other members 2.0 ltr superb owners. then another course of action might be needed for complete peace of mind...and that is to remove the sump and a thorough inspection....might even be a good idea in purchasing the oil pump drive and sump gasket prior to doing the work, and then go about cleaning the sump and surrounding area and replace and refit and fill with fresh 5w30 oil as specified. And i would assume the 1.9 tdi engines are also suspect over time...its just how the car has been serviced and luck of the draw.

Ive mentioned on here some time ago my dad had same problem in his old 86 reg passat 1.8 petrol and his pick up pipe was virtually air tight, as we tried to blow through it, and nothing came through the other end. After it was cleaned we even put a small hole in the strainer to basically maximize the oil flow and from then on he never had further problems.....and his car i might add was dealer serviced....and the oil possibly sucked out rather than drained out..hence the grime inside the sump after 50k miles.

So for all you 2.0 ltr superb owners, for a peace of mind, get a quote for doing the work or spend a few hours and do it yourself...and i know certain members rubbish the 2.0ltr engine, but at the end of the day, unless you know exactly what the dealer or independant garages do when removing the old oil, id personally get them to drain it rather than suck it out..even if it costs a few quid more and change it at least twice a year.....that way you will know that decent oil is continually flowing through the engine with no problems.The same goes for the 1.9 superb owners...because at the end of the day we are relying on liquid gold to flow through freely at high pressure...and if it flows it goes...if its blocked then it stops .simple as that.

Oil strainer blockages are mostly from so-called varnish build up that is created when oil of inferior quality is chemically "broken down" due to heat and pressure. Solution is to use the best fully synthetic oil one can afford. Saab petrol turbo engines are particularly sensitive to this, but all other "lesser" engines will suffer from the same phenomenon over extended mileages. A good 507 specification VAG oil should stop this happening, but check your user manual to see if your car is compatible with this particular grade. And as far as the 2.0 tdi pump drive is concerned, it either works or it doesn't, there is no degradation in pump performance. One day it works, next day it snaps and you most likely write the engine off. Preventative maintenance is key with these.

Guys, I think you're missing the point.

An Orange light is level not pressure.

Red is a presure warning.

Before worrying too much about the pump, have them check the level sensor.

It is, as said above, however worth having the pump drive checked over as for some reason they are prone to issues on the 2.0 TDI in the superb.

So out of interest....apart from removing the sump....how difficult is it to remove the oil pump drive? Ive read on here that the part itself isnt a great deal of money...and if that is the case, then i might order the oil pump drive and do it myself, also are any special tools required? cheers andy

So out of interest....apart from removing the sump....how difficult is it to remove the oil pump drive? Ive read on here that the part itself isnt a great deal of money...and if that is the case, then i might order the oil pump drive and do it myself, also are any special tools required? cheers andy

Edited 19 June, 201016 yr by samson1

we are waiting for the guru to ans this. poss on a vacation?