is a damn good tyre!

That is all! New set on the front of the mongrel now and even though I've barely worn off the bristles I can feel this is going to be a good tyre! Will enjoy scrubbing it in and seeing what it's like!

Agree there.

I used to have them until PS3 came out. Which are leagues ahead of the Vreds IMHO. But the Vred is still a damn good tyre

Just the price puts me off going toward the PS3 league. The VUSs were about the same price this time as T1R toyos so elected to give them a shot after reading some good reviews on

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/

and in my case particularly how VUS http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vredestein/Ultrac-Sessanta.htm rated against T1R http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/T1R.htm

Did they come from camskill? I am on the look out for good-value rubber since it appears Kumho are replacing the KU31 with (imho) an inferior model

PL

Yeah, and camskill have them in 215/40 R17 at £30 less than usual too.

Just noticed they don't have Sessantas listed in 16" Only the Sportracs

Yeah, and camskill have them in 215/40 R17 at £30 less than usual too.

Just noticed they don't have Sessantas listed in 16" Only the Sportracs

Ah booo :'(

the search goes on!

Agree there.

I used to have them until PS3 came out. Which are leagues ahead of the Vreds IMHO. But the Vred is still a damn good tyre

I thought Ps3 was a playstation! . No better tyre for £100 <and Ps3 taking the **** at £190 each/ 225 40 18 >

Edited 18 July, 201015 yr by bluvrs2

Not sure where you are getting those prices but camskill sell the PS3's in that size for £127 each, so £190 sounds like you are being had.

I thought Ps3 was a playstation! . No better tyre for £100 <and Ps3 taking the **** at £190 each/ 225 40 18 >

Only £127.70 inc VAT at Camskill - at that price they are worth thinking about, although they'd have to do a lot more miles than the Vreds to make them better value

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m61b0s134p57996

I thought about the ps3 and kwikfit offered them at £130 each (on the website) which wasnt bad but i decided to stick a pair of ditch finders on(£60) and try them - holy **** they scare me in the wet but you pay what you get

I'll just wait and replace them with something better when i have to.

Not sure where you are getting those prices but camskill sell the PS3's in that size for £127 each, so £190 sounds like you are being had.

I am not being had as I have got Vreds for £100 a corner , were those prices fitted?

I put a full set (18") of VUS on my Octavia vRS in November 2009 i have done 12k on them and have a good 8-10k left on the fronts. I bought the set for £360 all in, then just £10 a corner to fit, Total £400, not bad. I am very happ with them, i will buy again. Oh yea, i bought them from Camskil.

Ah booo :'(

the search goes on!

IIRC the ultracs are not made in 16" octy size, certainly they are not made in 205/55/R16

I put a full set (18") of VUS on my Octavia vRS in November 2009 i have done 12k on them and have a good 8-10k left on the fronts. I bought the set for £360 all in, then just £10 a corner to fit, Total £400, not bad. I am very happ with them, i will buy again. Oh yea, i bought them from Camskil.

I had less luck. Mine lasted 12k on the front. Great tyres but I was a bit dissapointed in the wear rate. Still good value for money though as 12k at the price I got them for wasn't too shabby.

Just so you know the Treadwear rating on PS3's is 320

The Vreds are 280 so in theory you "should" get more miles

Edited 20 July, 201015 yr by vRSCarl

Looking forward to testing wet grip today. Hammering down in the West Country at the moment. Although still need to be a bit cautious as the tyres have only done 100 miles.

Gotta love the Vreds. They don't have grip once they're scrubbed in. Dan The V8 "I've got a racing license and will make you cry like a girl" Man was impressed with them on my car

Can't decide what to get next. PS3s on the next Costco -20% for 4, Ultrac Sessantas again or Ultrac Centos.

Gotta love the Vreds. They don't have grip once they're scrubbed in. Dan The V8 "I've got a racing license and will make you cry like a girl" Man was impressed with them on my car

Can't decide what to get next. PS3s on the next Costco -20% for 4, Ultrac Sessantas again or Ultrac Centos.

PS3 all the way. You will be impressed. Same if not slightly better grip in the dry. But in the wet they are leagues ahead

Vreds did well for me in the wet today. I had mildly more confidence in them than the T1R, but is still early days for a proper comparison.

I perosnally think they are vastly improved with about 2mm worn off, seem to have a little bit of flex in the tread at full depth.

Vreds did well for me in the wet today. I had mildly more confidence in them than the T1R, but is still early days for a proper comparison.

the T1Rs are the worst tyres ive ever used.

less grip than the std michelin pilot exaltos i had on before. took ages to scrub in before i got any decent grip. So much so, that i had my alignment checked at 3 places thinking i had an issue,

the vreds after only 50 miles were providing better grip than the toyos did after 400 miles. the only good thing i found is they cleared standing water very well