FMIC...anyone got one of these?

[RobClubley]

save your money buy a forge or pro alloy one

im pretty confident that the oem sidemount will perform just as good as 99% of them ebay frontmounts

go to forge direct and ask them for a price

I have to agree that if you want quality and an easy fit go for one of them.

Dyno will tell if my Chinese one is better than the tiny stock one

[borris]

WOOP WOOP just won a forge fmic off ebay for the tidy sum of £350 half the price

[RobClubley]

WOOP WOOP just won a forge fmic off ebay for the tidy sum of £350 half the price

Score!!

I've just taken mine apart again and I've worked out how to route the pipes that way I want. Will have it all back together soon

[borris]

Score!!

I've just taken mine apart again and I've worked out how to route the pipes that way I want. Will have it all back together soon

Good luck again lol will be starting mine tomoz afternoon then bck to r-tech for remap

[millsey]

save your money buy a forge or pro alloy one

im pretty confident that the oem sidemount will perform just as good as 99% of them ebay frontmounts

go to forge direct and ask them for a price

I Agree, they look nice but in terms of peformance the plate and bar construction means that the air jus hits the front of the cooler and bounces off, crudely speaking, the cores forge/pace and also my company manufacure have a oval shapped tube which funnels the air into the fins, where the majority of th cooling occurs.

[millsey]

No problem - happy to help

Will measure it tomorrow when I take the bumper off again.

I contacted several of the Ebay sellers of similar ones to see if they would sell only the pipework but none of them replied.

Yeah i contacted a few and nobody got back to me. i think im just going to manufacture one similar to the Forge 2 pass, apparently though you have to purchase a new crash bumber, whats this all about?

Also i see you converted all the pipe work on your FMIC, which will improve your airflow and reduce the pressure drop no end, is this necessery on the forge/pace ones?.

[richm]

It's worth betting money on a tube and fin core being a fair chunk more efficient than a bar and plate of equivalent size - it's no surprise why Forge, Proalloy, GRS etc use tube and fin cores they have all tested lots of cores before they arrive at the ones they chose to use, they are of course more expensive.. The standard SMIC core is actually quite efficient for it's size (as long as it's in reasonable condition and all the fins aren't mashed up).

So that said, you will need a cheap bar and plate cored FMIC to be bigger than the SMIC just to keep up, and to be a significant improvement it will need to be a fair amnount bigger. There's no shortage of space in the front of the Octy so you can get a biggish core in. Once you've done that, the FMIC performance may initially look good, as it will probably have a fair heat sinking capacity due to it's size and position, but in sustained high load conditions the recovery time of the bar and plate (time it takes to cool down after it's been heated) will likely be longer than the more efficient tube and fin, and the core temperature will quietly increase due to heatsoak.

It's a case of pay your money and take your choice, for casual road use the cheap one may well be beneficial, as it will have a fair time to recover in between "blasts", but take it on the track, or use it in a more sustained fashion (if your "private road" will allow ) and it's likely the performance improvement over the SMIC may not be as you expect..

Also don't put too much faith in the rolling road telling the whole story, the cooling capacity at most rolling roads isn't enough to make any intercooler work to it's potential, especially after a couple of runs when everything has heatsoaked - there's no substitute for a proper 70mph wind blowing through the front

[Clarry]

Is the Forge FMIC for the 1.8t 20v engines the same or are they specific for the make and model of the car??

[Jonny5ive]

I have an FMIC (sans pipework) for sale here if anyone's interested.

Grab a bargain

[Guest westallc]

WOOP WOOP just won a forge fmic off ebay for the tidy sum of £350 half the price

did it come with the modified crash bar ???

also i paid £530 deliverd to my door direct from forge so they dont have to be 700 from the stealers on here

and imho if forge sold them all at this price direct from them there sales will boom as no one wants to pay near £700 for a coole do they !!!!!

[Flybikeslee]

i got a new forge for £480....pays to be cheeky

[Guest westallc]

just shows what you can get them for and the stealers on here still try to sell it for near £700 lol

thats why i laugh when people try selling them second hand for £400+

[Clarkyzs]

i just found this on ebay:- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-FMIC-INTERCOOLER-SUPRA-CELICA-GT4-ST185-ST205-/230502455968?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35ab045aa0

if you had a suitable pipe kit could this be used?

Edited 24 July, 2010 by Clarkyzs

[borris]

did it come with the modified crash bar ???

also i paid £530 deliverd to my door direct from forge so they dont have to be 700 from the stealers on here

and imho if forge sold them all at this price direct from them there sales will boom as no one wants to pay near £700 for a coole do they !!!!!

no bud it never hence the reason i asked for one on the wanted section but if all you have to do is cut it like you say then jobs a good un to go lol

[borris]

i just found this on ebay:- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-FMIC-INTERCOOLER-SUPRA-CELICA-GT4-ST185-ST205-/230502455968?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35ab045aa0

if you had a suitable pipe kit could this be used?

i looked at these also not a bad buy you can get the proper pipe work from forge for 150 i was quoted

[Guest westallc]

yep just cut out end plate and add to bolt hole for cooler to mount to

remeber to grin off stub on passenger side ( will get a pick up tomoz for you ) if you dont it will cut through the silicone pipe work

[RobClubley]

Ok cool, thats a beautiful lookin VRS by the way

Have you got any dimensions for that IC? do you reckon i could buy that pipe arragment seperate?

Sorry to be a pain im just trying to gather as much info as possible before i jump in.

The core is 9cmx15.5cmx47cm

[RobClubley]

My FMIC is finally how I want it!!

Will post full details in a new thread I think, but here are some pics

[borris]

yep just cut out end plate and add to bolt hole for cooler to mount to

remeber to grin off stub on passenger side ( will get a pick up tomoz for you ) if you dont it will cut through the silicone pipe work

cheers bud that will be great tar

i was also thinking of putting a fan on it to, as i seen this a few times on the escort turbs, does it work make much difference at all anyone got any thoughts on this any proven gains to be shown ????????????????

Edited 25 July, 2010 by borris

[millsey]

The core is 9cmx15.5cmx47cm

Cheers,

its a shame you live in New Zealand as i could have give you one of my intercoolers, it would of been interesting to see the difference in performance, between the 'plate and bar ' and the 'tube and fin' :(

[millsey]

cheers bud that will be great tar

i was also thinking of putting a fan on it to, as i seen this a few times on the escort turbs, does it work make much difference at all anyone got any thoughts on this any proven gains to be shown ????????????????

Never seen the point in putting a fan on an intercooler as its only really in use when the throttle is applied, which is when your moving more times then not. If anything it minimises your core face area.

[felicia16v]

Never seen the point in putting a fan on an intercooler as its only really in use when the throttle is applied, which is when your moving more times then not. If anything it minimises your core face area.

yea would be more efficient to have a water spray bar on it activated from a throttle switch, its how mitsubishi do it

[borris]

yea would be more efficient to have a water spray bar on it activated from a throttle switch, its how mitsubishi do it

will look into that once ive solved this silly noice i got from IC now lol but its on

[Guest westallc]

cryogen is your friend

[millsey]

yea would be more efficient to have a water spray bar on it activated from a throttle switch, its how mitsubishi do it

Or a fan that sucks through the core rather than blows, that way you could mount the fan behind the IC