Hi all as above i have been lazy and the rain here wont stop for me to look but im assuming its like my previous golf, you have slight adjustment on the ball joint on the arm where the three bolts hold it on. I was lookin at the front wheels from the front and my pass side looks like it has slight more camber angle than the driver side and when i put power down it slightly drags to the left. im guessing this is the reason that the pass side has more angle giving it more pull this side?

thanks peeps

Hi all as above i have been lazy and the rain here wont stop for me to look but im assuming its like my previous golf, you have slight adjustment on the ball joint on the arm where the three bolts hold it on. I was lookin at the front wheels from the front and my pass side looks like it has slight more camber angle than the driver side and when i put power down it slightly drags to the left. im guessing this is the reason that the pass side has more angle giving it more pull this side?

thanks peeps

Rain? :eek: , its flippin red hot here in Gloucester :eek:

But to answer the question , no no adjustment at all

But I know someone who has made some for a Fabia , the only one so far and that one will have camber adjustment

There is no other way of adjusting camber on the Fabia , sorry

Sarah

Rain? :eek: , its flippin red hot here in Gloucester :eek:

But to answer the question , no no adjustment at all

But I know someone who has made some for a Fabia , the only one so far and that one will have camber adjustment

There is no other way of adjusting camber on the Fabia , sorry

Sarah

but im sure there is a bit of movement on those three bolts when there loose the wheel moves in and out slightly. Iv had this issue with my 20v previously and took it to a local race/tunner specialist and he adjusted the aligement toe and camber and got it spot on. that cost me a few quid which is what im trying to avoid having to pay again on the fab.

but im sure there is a bit of movement on those three bolts when there loose the wheel moves in and out slightly. Iv had this issue with my 20v previously and took it to a local race/tunner specialist and he adjusted the aligement toe and camber and got it spot on. that cost me a few quid which is what im trying to avoid having to pay again on the fab.

Hey , sorry , no not in the slightest I am afraid , I worked for Awesome and have issues with my camber and have done ever since I lowered it 40mm , camber issues,,,,,,

That is why I have searched high and low .for an answer , the only answer is what I have had made , but I am selling my car , so no longer needed and will be going on Ebay

Sarah

Sarah is right, of course.

Its an M8 bolt going through an 8mm hole, no adjustment.

Didn't notice any room for adjustment when I had mine off.

there's deffo no adjustment, you might be able to make up some sort of plate to re-align it to wherever you want it to be, but i don't recommend fiddling with the suspension geometry if you don't know what you are doing

fabia 2.0 bottom ball joint

there's deffo no adjustment, you might be able to make up some sort of plate to re-align it to wherever you want it to be, but i don't recommend fiddling with the suspension geometry if you don't know what you are doing

fabia 2.0 bottom ball joint

How about one WITH camber adjustments

How about one WITH camber adjustments

it's your funeral

with the greatest of respect, that is an absolutely shocking bodge of a safety critical component

Edited 24 August, 201015 yr by TeflonTom

it's your funeral

with the greatest of respect, that is an absolutely shocking bodge of a safety critical component

Well actually , this has been designed with safety in mind

ALOT of work has been put in to it , and has been made by a major manufacurer with another genius behind it

What you have to remember is I do know quite a few people in the trade and I do know of at least 2 other people that had the same idea , but never did put it in to practice

This was designed to take in to account a 40mm lowering

Safety in mind , who is the maddest , lowering or putting an item on like this to take in to account the lowering?

Hey , I think we would all be standard wouldn`t we????

So with the desiners looking , working out , and manufacturing going in to this with their experience , not being rude , what is yours?

I know how much work was put in to this

i also know how much work I put in to trying to find something to put right camber issues

You also have to take in to account this was designed on a MK 4 Golf design , are they mad too?

Sarah

look, i'm not trying to belittle your efforts here, i think it's great that people think 'outside the box' on stuff like this. but as a qualified engineer, and as somebody who has built kitcar frames, and suspension arms (caterhams etc) from scratch, and yes i have made shocking mistakes in the past which has led to me nearly crashing them.. i can see at least 2 major flaws with this method of relocating a ball joint, plus also a few other minor ones you could overcome with a little thought..

1. there is a small amount of lateral play allowed in the location of the balljoint due to the fact that it has slots rather than single holes for attaching the balljoint, this could potentially allow for slight changes in the caster angle becuase of the very small amount of coaxial missalignment, i admit that you could cope with this by ensuring the balljoint is properly centred both sides of the car whilst setting it up

2. don't underestimate the amount of torsional forces applied to the track control arms whilst cornering, a heavy car like a fabia/mk4 golf puts a lot of sideways pressure on that joint even under normal cornering, and i'd be suprised if those 3x M8 bolts could clamp that firmly enough to prevent that from stepping inwards under compression, or pulling outwards under tension whilst cornering, not to mention that having the slots there makes the arm weaker... but as you righly say i've not seen this, or been involved in the deisgn process so i could be wrong... i'd just hate to see somebody's balljoint pull out with obvious consequences

i can quite honestly say it would take me less than 5 miniutes to make one of those on my milling machine...

like i said before, well done for trying to find a solution to what is probably a common issue with the fabia, i never really had much hassle with camber on my lowered fabia.. i guess that you are trying to add just a smidge more positive camber to balance out the tangential change in geometry caused by the wheel/hub being in a relatively higher vertical plane to a non lowered car... fwiw my money would go on designing a modified top mount with the top damper mounting hole offset slightly off centre towards the side of the car to give you the extra positive camber, this would also have some nagative downsides as well i admit!..

edit: just another thought, is there not another balljoint from a different car you could use instead with similar dimensions? most of the late vw balljoints have the same 3 bolt mounting pattern, there may be one with the balljoint slightly closer in?

Edited 25 August, 201015 yr by TeflonTom

look, i'm not trying to belittle your efforts here, i think it's great that people think 'outside the box' on stuff like this. but as a qualified engineer, and as somebody who has built kitcar frames, and suspension arms (caterhams etc) from scratch, and yes i have made shocking mistakes in the past which has led to me nearly crashing them.. i can see at least 2 major flaws with this method of relocating a ball joint, plus also a few other minor ones you could overcome with a little thought..

1. there is a small amount of lateral play allowed in the location of the balljoint due to the fact that it has slots rather than single holes for attaching the balljoint, this could potentially allow for slight changes in the caster angle becuase of the very small amount of coaxial missalignment, i admit that you could cope with this by ensuring the balljoint is properly centred both sides of the car whilst setting it up

2. don't underestimate the amount of torsional forces applied to the track control arms whilst cornering, a heavy car like a fabia/mk4 golf puts a lot of sideways pressure on that joint even under normal cornering, and i'd be suprised if those 3x M8 bolts could clamp that firmly enough to prevent that from stepping inwards under compression, or pulling outwards under tension whilst cornering, not to mention that having the slots there makes the arm weaker... but as you righly say i've not seen this, or been involved in the deisgn process so i could be wrong... i'd just hate to see somebody's balljoint pull out with obvious consequences

i can quite honestly say it would take me less than 5 miniutes to make one of those on my milling machine...

like i said before, well done for trying to find a solution to what is probably a common issue with the fabia, i never really had much hassle with camber on my lowered fabia.. i guess that you are trying to add just a smidge more positive camber to balance out the tangential change in geometry caused by the wheel/hub being in a relatively higher vertical plane to a non lowered car... fwiw my money would go on designing a modified top mount with the top damper mounting hole offset slightly off centre towards the side of the car to give you the extra positive camber, this would also have some nagative downsides as well i admit!..

edit: just another thought, is there not another balljoint from a different car you could use instead with similar dimensions? most of the late vw balljoints have the same 3 bolt mounting pattern, there may be one with the balljoint slightly closer in?

i have to agree with you here, it is abit poor what sarah has done to those arms and there is an excessive amount of pressure on these when cornering. my fab is at standard ride hight atm so all is good.