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Did you ever find a solution with this one? I've got a rear bar from a Mk6 Golf R but can't decide if to fit or stay as is with the Eibachs and Bilsteins.

What's the diameter ?

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  • muddyboots
    muddyboots

    The 22mm rear bar from the Tig gets a muddyboots thumbs up I can definitely notice less roll and understeer in corners. Note that at the same time I did go from worn out standard dampers to Bilst

  • muddyboots
    muddyboots

    Been looking at these again.   Started looking at Q3 rarbs as there were a couple on Ebay, but then noticed the bars on the Yeti/Tiguan appear to have a small kink in them to clear the exhaust - the

  • Joel SHOEMARK
    Joel SHOEMARK

    Cool, thanks mate. Most 4wd cars have a tendency to under steer. Installing a ARB in the rear actually reduces traction because as the vehicle rolls toward the out, more weight is lifted from the ins

What's the diameter ?

It's 22mm (just measured it so may be slightly off either way)

It's 22mm (just measured it so may be slightly off either way)

So potentially the same arb as used on the Tiguan 170.

Guy

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So potentially the same arb as used on the Tiguan 170.

Guy

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Possibly yes, very similar diameter, sounds more impressive saying I've got a Golf R RARB though ;)

Edited by DarrellGB

Bar arrived today, and I've fitted it (although not driven yet as I'm doing loads of other stuff at same time).

It is indeed about 2mm thicker than the original one on my Yeti 170.

 

Here's the Yeti one next to the Tiguan bar (the shiny one) - you can see they're identical aside from thickness:

 

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By the way, you need multi-spline bits ("triple square") to undo the brackets and the droplinks.

Also, the droplinks need to be fitted to the car before the bar is connected to them. 

Edited by muddyboots

Be interesting to see if you notice any handling difference, did you manage to get the Bilsteins on yet?

Rears are on, will get fronts on tomorrow.

Thx mb!

  • 1 year later...

Hi gents, seems this thread is due its two-year 'thread resurrection'!

 

Apologies for not being around much over the last few years, lots going on with a new interest that takes up a lot of my time and things going on at home.  Suffice to say I'm here and still have Kevin, my Yeti, upgraded a while back with Bilstein B6s, as the standard shocks were 'shot' due, I fell, to a mismatch with the eibach lowered springs I had fitted.  Planning to keep him for a few more years as I can';t find a comparable alternative that I like.

 

Back on topic; Bought a 3C0 511 305 D rear anti-roll bar (same as @muddyboots has fitted), a couple of days ago.  Due for delivery tomorrow.  Hoping to get it fitted soon.

If you're fitting it yourself, remember the droplink bolts use multi-splined socket heads, not hex sockets....

Thanks for the advice @muddyboots.  I've got the multi-splined socket from when I changed the arb on my Octavia vRS. 

 

Not sure yet whether to try it myself or get it done at a garage.  I've not got decent jacks, but have some ramps to get the car raised up, but suspension will still be compressed.  I know the workshop manual states on a hoist, so the rear wheels hang down. 

 

Main query is access to bolts and space to wiggle the arb out and new one in, when up on ramps. 

 

Guy 

I did mine on the ground in my garage with the rear up high on axle stands. I recall it being a bit awkward to wiggle the bar out/in, but it is do-able.

 The job was a bit more faff than I anticipated; one of the drop-link bolts rounded out (even using the right tool). Luckily it was on the arb end of the drop-link, so I could cut it off once the bar was off the car and I had some room to attack it. Also - the bar I bought had the old droplinks still attached, so I had some spare bolts.

 

11 hours ago, muddyboots said:

I did mine on the ground in my garage with the rear up high on axle stands. I recall it being a bit awkward to wiggle the bar out/in, but it is do-able.

 The job was a bit more faff than I anticipated; one of the drop-link bolts rounded out (even using the right tool). Luckily it was on the arb end of the drop-link, so I could cut it off once the bar was off the car and I had some room to attack it. Also - the bar I bought had the old droplinks still attached, so I had some spare bolts.

 

 

Thanks for the info.

 

The bar turned up today; part number is OK.  I also had a look under the rear of my Yeti today and it all looks rather tight so, as I have ramps, not axle stands, and I don't feel comfortable about working underneath in the space available, I think I'll trust the work to a local garage.

@vollansjames thanks for the suggestion, which is appreciated.

 

I've shied away from doing the front ARB as the front subframe needs to be dropped out, to get at the front ARB. 

 

This makes it expensive on time/labour cost (not able to do the work myself these days).

 

Got mine booked in for Friday afternoon at a local garage.

 

Guy

 

 

On 19/06/2018 at 22:42, bahnstormer vrs said:

@vollansjames thanks for the suggestion, which is appreciated.

 

I've shied away from doing the front ARB as the front subframe needs to be dropped out, to get at the front ARB. 

 

This makes it expensive on time/labour cost (not able to do the work myself these days).

 

 

Yeah that's why I've only done the rear, which in turn is why I only went for a mild upgrade as I didn't want to risk upsetting the balance of the car with a standard ARB at front and large upgrade at the rear.

Rear ARB fitted this afternoon. 

 

Mechanic / technician grumbled about the awkwardness of feeding the thicker bar into position; had to get a colleague to help and lean on the exhaust and ease it out of the way.  Maybe my eibachs & B6s were an influence too.  Plus the OE bolts were well and truly oxidised in.

 

Short 10 mile drive home, with only a couple of roundabouts to test any changes to the feel of the handling.  Hard to say but the rear end seems tighter, giving less understeer, and certainly more influenced by bobbles in the road surface.  Pleased so far.

 

Of note is that the surface of the OE ARB, 7.5 years and 65K miles that I now have in the garage, is very distressed with the powder coated paint bubbling off in numerous placed.

  • 2 years later...

Any newer reviews/comments available on this subject please? I'm thinking of upgrading my rear ARB to a slightly stiffer item to reduce understeer, however I'm worried about adversely affecting the ride quality. I also have the Eibach springs which I initially also mistakenly fitted with Bilstein B6s after reading forums instead of sticking with my plan of using Koni FSDs. I didn't get on with the B6s at all, too compromised for me, too stiff. Great at high speed, but too stiff on the motorway & around town. I'd run Eibachs & Koni FSDs on a Alfa 156 before the Yeti, loved them & had no problems. A couple of years ago I also bought an Abarth 500 & put FSDs & Eibachs on that too, again with really good results. Certainly better than the B6/Eibach combination on the Yeti. Also a rear B6 always knocked at times, then a front started so I'd had enough & binned them. Unfortunately, FSDs weren't available at that time for the Yeti, so I went for B4s. What an improvement. For me this combination is what the Yeti should've been from the factory as it's less harsh over sharp bumps & potholes than standard, but the handling improvements from the Eibachs & better damping from the B4s over the cheap Skoda standard items is noticeable. People tell me the rear ARB would be a good upgrade, but I don't want to stiffen the car much more as I don't want to loose the superbly planted feel my Yeti currently has when pressing on down poorly surfaced lanes. Cheers.

 

 

  • 2 years later...
On 22/12/2021 at 22:48, scoutabout1 said:

i spoke to one of the suppliers on ebay  and he said 30mm max  due to  CV angles etc  as you stated .. im running  225/50/17  so  looking at   running 215/60( or maybe 65) /17.... all depends on spring perch clearance ... im not  a fan of lower profile  tires since ive moved back to the uk  i have noticed that the roads are  in a big state of repair 

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