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Thought id post this up for you guys to benefit as well. a group buy has been organized on the Mk5 GTI forum for this intake. very similar to the ITG intake which ill vouch from personal experience is a really good intake.

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Group buy here

Review here

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For the unititated when it comes to modifying the TFSI

The standard intake is built into the engine cover and is very very restrictive. On a standard TFSI adding a good intake will gain you >10Hp over stock figures. Thats not just peak either thas across the entire rev range as well.

Once remapped though, the standard airbox will begin to struggle to flow the amount of air required especially at the top end thus restricting the potential output. Ive seen dynos of before and after results showing increases of upto 20hp on highly tuned cars as it was being restricted so much.

This dyno sheet was done on an independant dyno. Car is a stage 2+ eD30 (k04). first run is on stock intake. second on ITG intake. Car was not removed from rollers between runs and for swapping intakes, and REVO reps were present to adjust the map to its optimum settings for both stock intake and induction kit.

As you can see the top end is hugely improved holding much more torque and power the high the car is revved. just goes to show how restrictive the std inbtake is.

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I personally would expoect to gain so much. My ITG gained me around 16-19hp over the stock intake on my vRS. When i logged my Peak MAF output in comparison to stock there was a gain of 18g/s on the air flow.

As a comparison I was given a pipercross venom intake off MdMay on here when i logged that i had lost 24g/s over stock, and when i swappd back the stock intake wqas noticeably better. this goes to show you get what you pay for

The general rule of thump is that if you divide your MAF reading(at any point in the RPM) by 0.81 it will give you a rough but close Bhp at that point.

So from above

the ITG made 18g/s that equates to : 18/0.81=22.2Hp gain (rough)

the pipercross lost 24g/s over stock: 24/0.81= 29.6hp lost (rough)

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Any comparisons for stage 1 based cars? Also what is the group buy price ? I dont feel like registering just yet.

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Any comparisons for stage 1 based cars? Also what is the group buy price ? I dont feel like registering just yet.

the links are above in post#1 price is arouund 300incl VAT+delivery link

Id say gains would be near identical to the ITG. As you can see, they are neigh on identical. And the ITG is widely regarded as being one of the top performers on the TFSI. REVO use ITG on all their demo cars as well, which speaks volumes i think. except this one has a larger dry filter.

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ive seen stage 1 cars with other intakes make 10-15hp. When i stripped my mods off my car (i was down to stage 1 at this time) and sold the intake to muckipup, i noticed a massive loss at the top end

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so are you saying between the pipercross setup and the ITG setup there was a 51.8bhp increase on a 200 bhp car!? If thats the case i wouldn't believe everything your MAF tells you.

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so are you saying between the pipercross setup and the ITG setup there was a 51.8bhp increase on a 200 bhp car!? If thats the case i wouldn't believe everything your MAF tells you.

You have read that wrong

the ITG made 18g/s that equates to : 18/0.81=22.2Hp gain (rough)

the pipercross lost 24g/s over stock: 24/0.81= 29.6hp lost (rough)

stage 1 MAF logs this was done on stock everything excluding shark stage 1. i then fitted thepipercross intake and it lost 24g/s which so in theory it went from 240ish Hp down to about 210-215Hp. Of the 3 different intakes ive used on my vRS this was the only one that lost power

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anyways, enough of my previous intakes. only posted this up for some other guys to benefit

Ta for posting this up :thumbup:

You have read that wrong

stage 1 MAF logs this was done on stock everything excluding shark stage 1. i then fitted thepipercross intake and it lost 24g/s which so in theory it went from 240ish Hp down to about 210-215Hp. Of the 3 different intakes ive used on my vRS this was the only one that lost power

Ok so you lost 25-30bhp over stock filter with the pipercross (240-210=30bhp) but you gained 22bhp over stock filter with the ITG (240+22=262bhp). To me that makes at least 47-52bhp increase between the pipercross and the itg, In which case I may start looking for an ITG.....unless I still read it wrong :giggle:

What's the current thinking on separating the filter from the heat of the engine bay as with the pics of the ITG filter?

I personally don't think that heat soak would be too much of an issue unless the car is in stop/start traffic (in which case, I am not sure that the foam separator would make much difference). The foam panel also separates the filter from the air intake vent!

I actually took the foam panel off my car yesterday for the above reasons and to see if I can construct a way of feeding air from the vent through the panel.

What's the current thinking on separating the filter from the heat of the engine bay as with the pics of the ITG filter?

I personally don't think that heat soak would be too much of an issue unless the car is in stop/start traffic (in which case, I am not sure that the foam separator would make much difference). The foam panel also separates the filter from the air intake vent!

I actually took the foam panel off my car yesterday for the above reasons and to see if I can construct a way of feeding air from the vent through the panel.

I agree, which is why I designed the kit without the heat shield / air block. I have run a large feed from the lower side grill upto the bottom of the filter too.

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