Having had the misfortune to spend some of the weekend driving around in a new Passat diesel, I am not remotely impressed with the sensitivity of the clutch. It seems that the biting point is about 3 microns from the fully depressed position, and I stalled the car a number of times attempting to negotiate my way out of a barrier operated car park.

I test drove the Superb before ordering and don't recall having any problems with it whatsoever, but the Passat was horrid. I'm awaiting the 170CR with a manual box, but was only able to test drive the 105PD (a gutless piece of junk BTW) and I'm now a little worried given the VW group parts box that there may be a chance the Skud has the same awful clutch as the big VW.

Anyone with any experience of driving both who cares to comment?

Ta.

Haven't driven a Passat, but must say that I'm not pleased with the clutch in mine.

In stop-go traffic I can feel very strong whirring (flywheel according to dealer) coming through my left foot every time I engage the clutch.

Dual mass problem?

And the pedal itself sticks and clicks.

Dealer aware that I'm not happy.

The Fabia courtesy car had a better clutch action than my £17k more expensive Superb.

Hope it can be sorted, because I love the car.

I've not got any experience with the Superb, but I do have a new Passat and the clutch is fine... and that comes from someone who has a propensity to stall a new (to him) car until he gets used to it. In the 2 months I've had the Passat I don't think I've stalled it once and that's unusual for me. Normally I have to stop driving on auto-pilot and start thinking about what I'm doing when I jump in a new (different) car but I've found driving the Passat a very natural experience. The car you describe doesn't sound anything like mine.

No problems with the clutch on mine.

Having had the misfortune to spend some of the weekend driving around in a new Passat diesel, I am not remotely impressed with the sensitivity of the clutch. It seems that the biting point is about 3 microns from the fully depressed position, and I stalled the car a number of times attempting to negotiate my way out of a barrier operated car park.

I test drove the Superb before ordering and don't recall having any problems with it whatsoever, but the Passat was horrid. I'm awaiting the 170CR with a manual box, but was only able to test drive the 105PD (a gutless piece of junk BTW) and I'm now a little worried given the VW group parts box that there may be a chance the Skud has the same awful clutch as the big VW.

Anyone with any experience of driving both who cares to comment?

Ta.

You have the option of changing your order on your Superb to a DSG gearbox if it is not too long into production. Thus eliminating the clutch issues.

I Could change my car configuration a couple of weeks before the production week.

[i had an 06 140bhp passat for three years and did 100,000 miles in it. I had no issue with the biting point although it did start to get heavy in the last year or so.

All clutches are different from car to car, regardless of make or model. if you test drove another it would feel completely different.

As has already been stated there is the DSG. I went for this on my new Superb and i would not go back to manual, so smooth and quiet.

Don't blame the car cos you aren't a good driver mate, same clutch goes in a Pass, as in a Sup, they come from the same bin, either you found a car that's faulty, or you ain't got the foot control required of a car of that magnitude.

Maybe, maybe not. Seeing as my company 'motor' is a 30 ton, 500mph aeroplane which I manage to control perfectly in 3 dimensions I doubt it's a result of a Heather Mills moment with my left leg. Cars are rather tame by comparison, but stick to your own limits I say.

Most likely a bad clutch on the Passat - it is a company pool car after all and has doubtless been flogged to death.

No interest in the DSG box - I like to drive and will choose manula over auto any day.

my car has the same problem, the bitting point is hard to the floor, and it will also not select 1 or more of the gears smoothly. I have it back at 2 separate dealers, both said it was ok, but still giving mme issues.

I took it back to my local dealer again and ask for a "gearbox expert" to come for a drive with me and thank god I did. The expert agreed with me and the car is now book in for a gearbox check, they are still unsure what is wrong butthe dealer has advise it may be one of the following:

1) wrong oil been installed at factory

2) mesh ring damage

3) major gearbox rebuild

Maybe, maybe not. Seeing as my company 'motor' is a 30 ton, 500mph aeroplane which I manage to control perfectly in 3 dimensions I doubt it's a result of a Heather Mills moment with my left leg. Cars are rather tame by comparison, but stick to your own limits I say.

Most likely a bad clutch on the Passat - it is a company pool car after all and has doubtless been flogged to death.

No interest in the DSG box - I like to drive and will choose manula over auto any day.

Nice one!!

No interest in the DSG box - I like to drive and will choose manula over auto any day.

I agree , my boss used to say that auto's were only suitable for one-legged old ladies

Plus the 6sp box is a peach and lovely to use

I like to drive and will choose manula over auto any day.

IME, the type of gearbox bears no relationship to driving pleasure, nor does it add to or subtract from driving ability.

Ray

IME, the type of gearbox bears no relationship to driving pleasure, nor does it add to or subtract from driving ability.

Ray

I agree.Modern auto boxes, ie. DSG do not drain the power output or fuel consumption as older one do. Also with an automatic, I can the performance I want each time and every time. Surprising as it my seem there are good drivers and bad drivers. Good drivers may get the best out of a manual box most of the time, if the are lucky. All drivers can get the best out of an automatic. I recall more than one driver who thought they were the bees knees and wouldn'y be seen dead in an auto, but when riding with them they were in reality, jerky and inconsistant, and they wasted fuel by the ton.

Haven't driven a Passat, but must say that I'm not pleased with the clutch in mine.

In stop-go traffic I can feel very strong whirring (flywheel according to dealer) coming through my left foot every time I engage the clutch.

Dual mass problem?

And the pedal itself sticks and clicks.

Dealer aware that I'm not happy.

The Fabia courtesy car had a better clutch action than my £17k more expensive Superb.

Hope it can be sorted, because I love the car.

I took delivery of the new 2011 model VW Passat 2.0 TDi B/motion in April and after approx 2000 mls have got exactly the same symptons as your car, vibration through the pedal and a roughness with a clicking noise on releasing the pedal when manouvering slowly in traffic or parking. Feels like an old car with a knackered clutch cable thats just about to snap, (i know its hydraulic) but thats how it feels. It ruins what is a very nice car. VW deny it is a fault but acknowledge it as a "manufacturing characteristic" surely thats manufactures clever talk for a fault they don't want to deal with. I know this isn't an isolated case as I have driven another new passat that does the same, surely just because more than one car has the same fault does not make it acceptable, I see it as a bigger issue. Please has anybody else contacted the VW group with the same problem and had a more positive response.

Hi guys, new to the forum and seen this problem. I had a similar issue with my 2006 2.0 140PD MkII Octavia back in 2007 with a clicking noise coming from the clutch when i was parking or taking of from the lights etc and it turned out to be a replacement flywheel and clutch and the dealer even went on to tell me this was a known issue and was very common. I know this is an older car and most likely using different parts but thought it would shed some light on the problem.

Hi guys, new to the forum and seen this problem. I had a similar issue with my 2006 2.0 140PD MkII Octavia back in 2007 with a clicking noise coming from the clutch when i was parking or taking of from the lights etc and it turned out to be a replacement flywheel and clutch and the dealer even went on to tell me this was a known issue and was very common. I know this is an older car and most likely using different parts but thought it would shed some light on the problem.

That is interesting, at present VW are refusing to accept there is anything wrong. Funny how my recently replaced 2008 90K Golf Tdi drove like a dream to the end.